QB Brock Purdy Thread

They don't want to talk down the other guys or hurt any feelings or make waves. But yeah Purdy is the starter if healthy.

Originally posted by random49er:
Yeah we go through the 2,000ish range of the Jimmy thread and I was generally an outcast because I suggested that "hey.....maybe u guys want to wait before projecting him as some franchise QB with tons of potential?"

Jimmy did nothing special in 2017. Crazy exaggeration stories beyond him simply playing better than who we had in there before and we won. I have the 5 games here on record and I've watched them all several times just to see him look like Fran Tarkenton or something out there,...but it just didnt show up on film. The team did improve with him under helm, however. We can certainly say that.

Would be great if he could serve as a lesson to those that want to make these guys into more (or less) than they are at the moment, but egos gonna ego.

We can talk about all 3 of these guys,...the same constant denominator holds true: Wait it out. Fistfights over which kid should really get playing time is not going to change anything,...lol.

Again those stats say otherwise and on a s**t team. I think overall people should cool their jets on QBs until we get a legit sample size…but fans gonna fan

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by random49er:
No one watches NBA Drafts because they're mostly boring and all the pieces usually fall into place. With the NFL, you just never know,....and that's what draws everyone in.

Also rosters in the nfl are exponentially larger. So the amount of selections and players are a lot more. Nba draft is like 2 rounds and a majority don't make it.

The size of "NFL" rosters is not it,....as the duration of the draft is exponentially longer as well, and I can surely name you some things where there have been much larger drafts than NBA drafts and no one hardly cares.

"Amount" is not it and your totally off, tbh. Now NCAA rosters OTOH....

Because some late 6th round kid you've never heard about before, and the way he dominated his I-AA conference, and the way he was originally projected to go in the 3rd,...now that draws intrigue.

If we reduced it to discussing the 1st round (which was really what I was referencing),....everyone knows who the top several guys are already and no one really expects instant surprise performance out of those kids day 1 in the NBA. Development after years is a different subject.

The central point is the variability of how NFL Drafted kids have fairly good chances to be great players up and down several rounds of it is why we talk about it to begin with.

You take that away and we're mostly skipping it and waiting for the season (ala basketball).

It should surprise NO ONE by now that there can be busts or disappointment within the top 5 picks of the NFL draft. Happens all the time.

Lol relax. I'm just saying the fact that only five people are on the court and like 14 per a roster,is a part of what makes the nba draft uneventful.

You don't have the same aspect of "who will be a sleeper" or "who will we draft that can play early or contribute". It's like "okay we picked some random dude and he will most likely never play or contribute." The picks are typically less impactful to a team than the nba, USUALLY. You can build a team through free agency in the nba. You can also just get one really good player and that'll change everything. In football, that doesn't really happen. Which makes looking for other positions in the nfl rounds much more fun.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:
I don't see anyone diminishing what Jimmy did. He was spectacular in 2017 and turned around the entire franchise with his play and leadership.

Purdy is simply better.

7 TDs, 5 INTs in 5 games isin't spectacular.

And he certainly didn't turn around the entire franchise. Kyle Shanahan has, though.

Sorry that I gotta play hindsight police but let's keep the truth in the field of play.

Kyle's record without Jimmy was and is s**t. Well, until Purdy showed up.

7/5 in and of itself is not spectacular, but to say he played otherwise is disingenuous. Or you just didn't watch the games. Or don't understand football. Probably a combination of all three.

Ok then,...it's Lynch. Or the owners that allow them to do whatever they're doing. Don't care. It certainly hasnt been Jimmy is what I can tell you,...unless he's been playing GM and talent evaluator behind the scenes to build up our now-stacked roster.

I know you want to give Jimmy a ton of credit for a stout defense and all but I aint buying what you're still here pitching and yes, I quite naturally expected for these old wives tales to pop up after he was a few months gone.

Solid reg-season QB,...pitiful post-season QB. That's all he's ever been. Far from a game changer or anything like that and the HC looked forward to the day where he could unload him.

Originally posted by random49er:
Ok then,...it's Lynch. Or the owners that allow them to do whatever they're doing. Don't care. It certainly hasnt been Jimmy is what I can tell you,...unless he's been playing GM and talent evaluator behind the scenes to build up our now-stacked roster.

I know you want to give Jimmy a ton of credit for a stout defense and all but I aint buying what you're still here pitching and yes, I quite naturally expected for these old wives tails to pop up after he was a few months gone.

Solid reg-season QB,...pitiful post-season QB. That's all he's ever been. Far from a game changer or anything like that and the HC looked forward to the day where he could unload him.

Jimmy doesn't deserve all the credit but he does deserve some. Every phase of the team impacts the other.

for example, a defense struggles to be a top 5 defense if the offense isn't efficient and doesn't convert third downs. It's hard for a defense to stop the other team from scoring if the offense is turning the ball over or if special teams is letting up bad field position.

so no, Jimmy doesn't play defense but his efficiency did positively impact the defense. Him converting third downs very well does help keep the defense rested and give good field position for special teams to punt from/coverage.

all of those things do play a part in the teams overall success. Look what happened to our defense as the eagles game went on when our offense was inept and broken because we didn't have a qb? They wore down and were consistently in bad position.

so you can't say Jimmy didn't positively impact the overall teams performance and contribute to us winning. He just had limitations and it made it very difficult to beat the top tier teams that have top tier quarterbacks.

it's why I keep saying I want an elite/HOF caliber qb so our team doesn't have to be stacked and play a perfect game to compete.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Jimmy doesn't deserve all the credit but he does deserve some. Every phase of the team impacts the other.

for example, a defense struggles to be a top 5 defense if the offense isn't efficient and doesn't convert third downs. It's hard for a defense to stop the other team from scoring if the offense is turning the ball over or if special teams is letting up bad field position.

so no, Jimmy doesn't play defense but his efficiency did positively impact the defense. Him converting third downs very well does help keep the defense rested and give good field position for special teams to punt from/coverage.

all of those things do play a part in the teams overall success. Look what happened to our defense as the eagles game went on when our offense was inept and broken because we didn't have a qb? They wore down and were consistently in bad position.

so you can't say Jimmy didn't positively impact the overall teams performance and contribute to us winning. He just had limitations and it made it very difficult to beat the top tier teams that have top tier quarterbacks.

it's why I keep saying I want an elite/HOF caliber qb so our team doesn't have to be stacked and play a perfect game to compete.

I think this is a good example of why Kyle Shanahan's record has been poor in games outside of Garoppolo starts (not counting Purdy). We've had backup level quarterback play, being kind. Hoyer, Beathard, Mullens... these are bad players. Jimmy is an average QB. He deserves credit because he played well at times, and being an average QB in the NFL isn't easy.

That's not including the fact that he took over a dumpster fire team, and had another full season where seemingly every key player on the team missed significant time. Almost every losing stretch the team has had since the team turned the corner under Kyle has been marred by significant injuries, including at the QB position.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
They don't want to talk down the other guys or hurt any feelings or make waves. But yeah Purdy is the starter if healthy.

We all know BCB is the starter.

I think they are going out of their way now to talk up TL so they can puff his trade value.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Jimmy doesn't deserve all the credit but he does deserve some. Every phase of the team impacts the other.

for example, a defense struggles to be a top 5 defense if the offense isn't efficient and doesn't convert third downs. It's hard for a defense to stop the other team from scoring if the offense is turning the ball over or if special teams is letting up bad field position.

so no, Jimmy doesn't play defense but his efficiency did positively impact the defense. Him converting third downs very well does help keep the defense rested and give good field position for special teams to punt from/coverage.

all of those things do play a part in the teams overall success. Look what happened to our defense as the eagles game went on when our offense was inept and broken because we didn't have a qb? They wore down and were consistently in bad position.

so you can't say Jimmy didn't positively impact the overall teams performance and contribute to us winning. He just had limitations and it made it very difficult to beat the top tier teams that have top tier quarterbacks.

it's why I keep saying I want an elite/HOF caliber qb so our team doesn't have to be stacked and play a perfect game to compete.

I think this is a good example of why Kyle Shanahan's record has been poor in games outside of Garoppolo starts (not counting Purdy). We've had backup level quarterback play, being kind. Hoyer, Beathard, Mullens... these are bad players. Jimmy is an average QB. He deserves credit because he played well at times, and being an average QB in the NFL isn't easy.

That's not including the fact that he took over a dumpster fire team, and had another full season where seemingly every key player on the team missed significant time. Almost every losing stretch the team has had since the team turned the corner under Kyle has been marred by significant injuries, including at the QB position.

I believe i just heard a podcast that said that since 2004 (2014?) we've only had 5 years where the starting QB started every game. That's insane.

Of all the quarterbacks that have started in the Super Bowl over the past ten years (winner or loser), Jimmy would have to be ranked bottom 3. Sorry, he was not "solid" as some of you posit. Go back and watch some of those games from last season. He left a lot to be desired on the field, and it took some effort from our defense / STs on multiple occasions going back to 2019 to carry the team over the hump.

Definitely not gonna miss him, but I'm starting to see a cult like following for him from some of this fan base. Eerily similar to Alex Smith, where fans overinflated his importance and contributions to the team, when in reality he was a mess and Harbaugh couldn't get rid of him fast enough. Exactly what Kyle has been trying to do with Jimmy since the SB debacle vs KC.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

They don't want to talk down the other guys or hurt any feelings or make waves. But yeah Purdy is the starter if healthy.

We all know BCB is the starter.

I think they are going out of their way now to talk up TL so they can puff his trade value.

Right now the comp is for the #2 spot. If Brock is healthy he's the starter

I think the reason they won't come out and say "when" Brock is healthy he is the starter is because if Brock has a setback and the QB in place is absolutely killing it, then Brock probably won't be starting when healthy

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Jimmy doesn't deserve all the credit but he does deserve some. Every phase of the team impacts the other.

for example, a defense struggles to be a top 5 defense if the offense isn't efficient and doesn't convert third downs. It's hard for a defense to stop the other team from scoring if the offense is turning the ball over or if special teams is letting up bad field position.

so no, Jimmy doesn't play defense but his efficiency did positively impact the defense. Him converting third downs very well does help keep the defense rested and give good field position for special teams to punt from/coverage.

all of those things do play a part in the teams overall success. Look what happened to our defense as the eagles game went on when our offense was inept and broken because we didn't have a qb? They wore down and were consistently in bad position.

so you can't say Jimmy didn't positively impact the overall teams performance and contribute to us winning. He just had limitations and it made it very difficult to beat the top tier teams that have top tier quarterbacks.

it's why I keep saying I want an elite/HOF caliber qb so our team doesn't have to be stacked and play a perfect game to compete.

I think this is a good example of why Kyle Shanahan's record has been poor in games outside of Garoppolo starts (not counting Purdy). We've had backup level quarterback play, being kind. Hoyer, Beathard, Mullens... these are bad players. Jimmy is an average QB. He deserves credit because he played well at times, and being an average QB in the NFL isn't easy.

That's not including the fact that he took over a dumpster fire team, and had another full season where seemingly every key player on the team missed significant time. Almost every losing stretch the team has had since the team turned the corner under Kyle has been marred by significant injuries, including at the QB position.

I believe i just heard a podcast that said that since 2004 (2014?) we've only had 5 years where the starting QB started every game. That's insane.

Meanwhile the mannings, Farve, Bree's, Brady etc has stayed healthy for like 2 decades at a time 😭😭

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Jimmy doesn't deserve all the credit but he does deserve some. Every phase of the team impacts the other.

for example, a defense struggles to be a top 5 defense if the offense isn't efficient and doesn't convert third downs. It's hard for a defense to stop the other team from scoring if the offense is turning the ball over or if special teams is letting up bad field position.

so no, Jimmy doesn't play defense but his efficiency did positively impact the defense. Him converting third downs very well does help keep the defense rested and give good field position for special teams to punt from/coverage.

all of those things do play a part in the teams overall success. Look what happened to our defense as the eagles game went on when our offense was inept and broken because we didn't have a qb? They wore down and were consistently in bad position.

so you can't say Jimmy didn't positively impact the overall teams performance and contribute to us winning. He just had limitations and it made it very difficult to beat the top tier teams that have top tier quarterbacks.

it's why I keep saying I want an elite/HOF caliber qb so our team doesn't have to be stacked and play a perfect game to compete.

I think this is a good example of why Kyle Shanahan's record has been poor in games outside of Garoppolo starts (not counting Purdy). We've had backup level quarterback play, being kind. Hoyer, Beathard, Mullens... these are bad players. Jimmy is an average QB. He deserves credit because he played well at times, and being an average QB in the NFL isn't easy.

That's not including the fact that he took over a dumpster fire team, and had another full season where seemingly every key player on the team missed significant time. Almost every losing stretch the team has had since the team turned the corner under Kyle has been marred by significant injuries, including at the QB position.

I believe i just heard a podcast that said that since 2004 (2014?) we've only had 5 years where the starting QB started every game. That's insane.

Meaning the mannings, Farve, Bree's, etc has stayed healthy for like 2 decades at a time 😭😭

Seriously!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Jimmy doesn't deserve all the credit but he does deserve some. Every phase of the team impacts the other.

for example, a defense struggles to be a top 5 defense if the offense isn't efficient and doesn't convert third downs. It's hard for a defense to stop the other team from scoring if the offense is turning the ball over or if special teams is letting up bad field position.

so no, Jimmy doesn't play defense but his efficiency did positively impact the defense. Him converting third downs very well does help keep the defense rested and give good field position for special teams to punt from/coverage.

all of those things do play a part in the teams overall success. Look what happened to our defense as the eagles game went on when our offense was inept and broken because we didn't have a qb? They wore down and were consistently in bad position.

so you can't say Jimmy didn't positively impact the overall teams performance and contribute to us winning. He just had limitations and it made it very difficult to beat the top tier teams that have top tier quarterbacks.

it's why I keep saying I want an elite/HOF caliber qb so our team doesn't have to be stacked and play a perfect game to compete.

I think this is a good example of why Kyle Shanahan's record has been poor in games outside of Garoppolo starts (not counting Purdy). We've had backup level quarterback play, being kind. Hoyer, Beathard, Mullens... these are bad players. Jimmy is an average QB. He deserves credit because he played well at times, and being an average QB in the NFL isn't easy.

That's not including the fact that he took over a dumpster fire team, and had another full season where seemingly every key player on the team missed significant time. Almost every losing stretch the team has had since the team turned the corner under Kyle has been marred by significant injuries, including at the QB position.

I believe i just heard a podcast that said that since 2004 (2014?) we've only had 5 years where the starting QB started every game. That's insane.

Meaning the mannings, Farve, Bree's, etc has stayed healthy for like 2 decades at a time 😭😭

Seriously!

The injuries here are so damn depressing. Lol cost us so chances at competing for a chip

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
check out Matt M getting shot down by the club here

After seeking additional clarification on the report below, we have learned that the article put out by Matt Maiocco was an opinion piece and does not reflect the teams timelines or feelings on the QB position https://t.co/it1w6ECY9z

— 𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙎𝙁𝙉𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙧𝙨 (@TheSFNiners) June 6, 2023

Everyone wants to say they got the scoop 1st. Sad what things have become but luckily I filter 99% of it out.

Lol you mad.