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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Against Seattle he did but against Dallas he didn't. We scored 19 points when he was pressured 50% of the time; something JG was accustomed to in the playoffs. The only difference in that game was that the defense actually held that time and closed the W out. Otherwise it was a straight JG-like 'overall' performance.

But he was certainly better in the 4Q.

I'm not ready to crown him just yet but to your overall point, he did show some encouraging things esp. for a first time playoff starter.

Gonna have games where it isn't going to all come together. Key is to not fold in the 4th when it gets tough.

10-3 in the 4Q. That was the difference (for both offense and defense).
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Allowing the kid to play and being patient while he develops is what I've always said. Ya'll wanted instant success the moment he got on the field. He sat for multiple yrs not playing…yeah sure that will totally make him better at playing football

Half of you don't even remember the last time we spent legit draft capital on a QB. The ones that do, say Alex stunk in part because the team was junk and we had a revolving coaching staff…then ya'll say Lance CAN'T play on a good roster with a stable coaching staff lol. You were ready to toss him in the trash after 30 passing attempts this yr….I've never seen such a flip flop in my life. Went from MVP 5,000 yards and 40TDs to trash in a little over 4QRs of football lol. Patience, yeah right.

As usual, you are missing the salient point here. As has been discussed ad nauseum around here, if the 49ers were the Jags, or the Bears, people may have had been more on board with that philosophy. But the 49ers weren't the Jags or the Bears and they had a Super Bowl caliber roster with a lot of their best players in their prime years. Plus, they already had a QB on the roster who had the support of a large majority of the players and was someone they thought they could win with. Do you really think the team was interested in turning that roster over to a kid who had less experience than ANY QB who has ever been drafted in the first round in the modern era?

There was NEVER a chance that Lance was going to start that year, barring an injury, or the team missing out on the playoffs, so to try and argue that he should have been given the starter's role so that he could "develop" is just misguided and shows a fundamental lack of understanding about the dynamics around the team for the last few years. Of course, then the team tried to speed up the process by anointing him the starter the next year without the benefit of him actually having earned the job. Which apparently, pissed off the football gods enough to allow Purdy to step in and steal his thunder. Lance may end up just being a victim of bad luck. But at the moment, he still has an opportunity to step up and show what he is capable of.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Really tempted to replace when it gets tough with when it starts raining, but resisting the urge so far

Or when you run out the back of the endzone

well that just wouldn't fit the post, as that wasn't the 4th quarter, go back to the context of your post man
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Allowing the kid to play and being patient while he develops is what I've always said. Ya'll wanted instant success the moment he got on the field. He sat for multiple yrs not playing…yeah sure that will totally make him better at playing football

Half of you don't even remember the last time we spent legit draft capital on a QB. The ones that do, say Alex stunk in part because the team was junk and we had a revolving coaching staff…then ya'll say Lance CAN'T play on a good roster with a stable coaching staff lol. You were ready to toss him in the trash after 30 passing attempts this yr….I've never seen such a flip flop in my life. Went from MVP 5,000 yards and 40TDs to trash in a little over 4QRs of football lol. Patience, yeah right.

As usual, you are missing the salient point here. As has been discussed ad nauseum around here, if the 49ers were the Jags, or the Bears, people may have had been more on board with that philosophy. But the 49ers weren't the Jags or the Bears and they had a Super Bowl caliber roster with a lot of their best players in their prime years. Plus, they already had a QB on the roster who had the support of a large majority of the players and was someone they thought they could win with. Do you really think the team was interested in turning that roster over to a kid who had less experience than ANY QB who has ever been drafted in the first round in the modern era?

There was NEVER a chance that Lance was going to start that year, barring an injury, or the team missing out on the playoffs, so to try and argue that he should have been given the starter's role so that he could "develop" is just misguided and shows a fundamental lack of understanding about the dynamics around the team for the last few years. Of course, then the team tried to speed up the process by anointing him the starter the next year without the benefit of him actually having earned the job. Which apparently, pissed off the football gods enough to allow Purdy to step in and steal his thunder. Lance may end up just being a victim of bad luck. But at the moment, he still has an opportunity to step up and show what he is capable of.

Literally every highly drafted QB becomes the presumed starter at some point. This is the first fanbase in the history of the sport to complain about their first round QB not earning the job. Who else was going to be the starter?
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Really tempted to replace when it gets tough with when it starts raining, but resisting the urge so far

Or when you run out the back of the endzone

well that just wouldn't fit the post, as that wasn't the 4th quarter, go back to the context of your post man

Every third post of his refers to jimmy which I think is weird af..
dude just can't move on
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
check out Matt M getting shot down by the club here


watch out for aggregators



Yeah, it's more those aggregators as you mention, getting shot down by Matt M

Matt did post this one, maybe it's what got em confused


Matt got a talking to by the team. I don't recall him ever going around correcting semantics from content aggregators before.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Against Seattle he did but against Dallas he didn't. We scored 19 points when he was pressured 50% of the time; something JG was accustomed to in the playoffs. The only difference in that game was that the defense actually held that time and closed the W out. Otherwise it was a straight JG-like 'overall' performance.

But he was certainly better in the 4Q.

I'm not ready to crown him just yet but to your overall point, he did show some encouraging things esp. for a first time playoff starter.

Gonna have games where it isn't going to all come together. Key is to not fold in the 4th when it gets tough.

Also, that was a playoff game against a team predicted to be a top SB contender according to most football aficionados. I think they were even ranked higher than us and favored to win against us so to come up with a win against the Cowboys was incredible and credits should be given to where the credits are due and one of them is the QB.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
check out Matt M getting shot down by the club here


watch out for aggregators



Yeah, it's more those aggregators as you mention, getting shot down by Matt M

Matt did post this one, maybe it's what got em confused


Matt got a talking to by the team. I don't recall him ever going around correcting semantics from content aggregators before.

It's offseason, people make all kinds of drama here and there especially those who earn their living from reporting whatever particular sports they are into.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Allowing the kid to play and being patient while he develops is what I've always said. Ya'll wanted instant success the moment he got on the field. He sat for multiple yrs not playing…yeah sure that will totally make him better at playing football

Half of you don't even remember the last time we spent legit draft capital on a QB. The ones that do, say Alex stunk in part because the team was junk and we had a revolving coaching staff…then ya'll say Lance CAN'T play on a good roster with a stable coaching staff lol. You were ready to toss him in the trash after 30 passing attempts this yr….I've never seen such a flip flop in my life. Went from MVP 5,000 yards and 40TDs to trash in a little over 4QRs of football lol. Patience, yeah right.

As usual, you are missing the salient point here. As has been discussed ad nauseum around here, if the 49ers were the Jags, or the Bears, people may have had been more on board with that philosophy. But the 49ers weren't the Jags or the Bears and they had a Super Bowl caliber roster with a lot of their best players in their prime years. Plus, they already had a QB on the roster who had the support of a large majority of the players and was someone they thought they could win with. Do you really think the team was interested in turning that roster over to a kid who had less experience than ANY QB who has ever been drafted in the first round in the modern era?

There was NEVER a chance that Lance was going to start that year, barring an injury, or the team missing out on the playoffs, so to try and argue that he should have been given the starter's role so that he could "develop" is just misguided and shows a fundamental lack of understanding about the dynamics around the team for the last few years. Of course, then the team tried to speed up the process by anointing him the starter the next year without the benefit of him actually having earned the job. Which apparently, pissed off the football gods enough to allow Purdy to step in and steal his thunder. Lance may end up just being a victim of bad luck. But at the moment, he still has an opportunity to step up and show what he is capable of.

Literally every highly drafted QB becomes the presumed starter at some point. This is the first fanbase in the history of the sport to complain about their first round QB not earning the job. Who else was going to be the starter?

Whoever could stay healthy, it appears.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Allowing the kid to play and being patient while he develops is what I've always said. Ya'll wanted instant success the moment he got on the field. He sat for multiple yrs not playing…yeah sure that will totally make him better at playing football

Half of you don't even remember the last time we spent legit draft capital on a QB. The ones that do, say Alex stunk in part because the team was junk and we had a revolving coaching staff…then ya'll say Lance CAN'T play on a good roster with a stable coaching staff lol. You were ready to toss him in the trash after 30 passing attempts this yr….I've never seen such a flip flop in my life. Went from MVP 5,000 yards and 40TDs to trash in a little over 4QRs of football lol. Patience, yeah right.

As usual, you are missing the salient point here. As has been discussed ad nauseum around here, if the 49ers were the Jags, or the Bears, people may have had been more on board with that philosophy. But the 49ers weren't the Jags or the Bears and they had a Super Bowl caliber roster with a lot of their best players in their prime years. Plus, they already had a QB on the roster who had the support of a large majority of the players and was someone they thought they could win with. Do you really think the team was interested in turning that roster over to a kid who had less experience than ANY QB who has ever been drafted in the first round in the modern era?

There was NEVER a chance that Lance was going to start that year, barring an injury, or the team missing out on the playoffs, so to try and argue that he should have been given the starter's role so that he could "develop" is just misguided and shows a fundamental lack of understanding about the dynamics around the team for the last few years. Of course, then the team tried to speed up the process by anointing him the starter the next year without the benefit of him actually having earned the job. Which apparently, pissed off the football gods enough to allow Purdy to step in and steal his thunder. Lance may end up just being a victim of bad luck. But at the moment, he still has an opportunity to step up and show what he is capable of.

Literally every highly drafted QB becomes the presumed starter at some point. This is the first fanbase in the history of the sport to complain about their first round QB not earning the job. Who else was going to be the starter?

It's true. I totally agree that after drafting Trey he is going to replace Jimmy as the eventual starter, however, Brock happened. That changed the course of 49ers history. That made us different from the normal that other teams have normally done when it comes to drafting a high first round QB. And majority of the posters here, majority of the beat writers, and the 49er players, coaches, owner and front office people seemed to be all unanimously supportive of Brock if Brock is declared as the presumptive QB1. But I also think that Trey Lance will be given the chance to compete. I believe the team will make sure that no stones are left unturned when it comes to choosing the right QB1. But because of Brock, the supposedly time allotted for Lance to develop, the opportunity to get as many real gametime snaps as possible where gaining the necessary experience supersedes game results, that's not gonna happen anymore. That's Trey's biggest challenge, he needs to show and produce that the crown belongs to him without the special privileges normally given to a first round draft QB.
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Allowing the kid to play and being patient while he develops is what I've always said. Ya'll wanted instant success the moment he got on the field. He sat for multiple yrs not playing…yeah sure that will totally make him better at playing football

Half of you don't even remember the last time we spent legit draft capital on a QB. The ones that do, say Alex stunk in part because the team was junk and we had a revolving coaching staff…then ya'll say Lance CAN'T play on a good roster with a stable coaching staff lol. You were ready to toss him in the trash after 30 passing attempts this yr….I've never seen such a flip flop in my life. Went from MVP 5,000 yards and 40TDs to trash in a little over 4QRs of football lol. Patience, yeah right.

As usual, you are missing the salient point here. As has been discussed ad nauseum around here, if the 49ers were the Jags, or the Bears, people may have had been more on board with that philosophy. But the 49ers weren't the Jags or the Bears and they had a Super Bowl caliber roster with a lot of their best players in their prime years. Plus, they already had a QB on the roster who had the support of a large majority of the players and was someone they thought they could win with. Do you really think the team was interested in turning that roster over to a kid who had less experience than ANY QB who has ever been drafted in the first round in the modern era?

There was NEVER a chance that Lance was going to start that year, barring an injury, or the team missing out on the playoffs, so to try and argue that he should have been given the starter's role so that he could "develop" is just misguided and shows a fundamental lack of understanding about the dynamics around the team for the last few years. Of course, then the team tried to speed up the process by anointing him the starter the next year without the benefit of him actually having earned the job. Which apparently, pissed off the football gods enough to allow Purdy to step in and steal his thunder. Lance may end up just being a victim of bad luck. But at the moment, he still has an opportunity to step up and show what he is capable of.

LOL

So, you write off Trey's potential his rookie season, suggesting that he shouldn't play under most circumstances, then criticize him for not proving himself before the start of his second season.

...as usual...
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Allowing the kid to play and being patient while he develops is what I've always said. Ya'll wanted instant success the moment he got on the field. He sat for multiple yrs not playing…yeah sure that will totally make him better at playing football

Half of you don't even remember the last time we spent legit draft capital on a QB. The ones that do, say Alex stunk in part because the team was junk and we had a revolving coaching staff…then ya'll say Lance CAN'T play on a good roster with a stable coaching staff lol. You were ready to toss him in the trash after 30 passing attempts this yr….I've never seen such a flip flop in my life. Went from MVP 5,000 yards and 40TDs to trash in a little over 4QRs of football lol. Patience, yeah right.

As usual, you are missing the salient point here. As has been discussed ad nauseum around here, if the 49ers were the Jags, or the Bears, people may have had been more on board with that philosophy. But the 49ers weren't the Jags or the Bears and they had a Super Bowl caliber roster with a lot of their best players in their prime years. Plus, they already had a QB on the roster who had the support of a large majority of the players and was someone they thought they could win with. Do you really think the team was interested in turning that roster over to a kid who had less experience than ANY QB who has ever been drafted in the first round in the modern era?

There was NEVER a chance that Lance was going to start that year, barring an injury, or the team missing out on the playoffs, so to try and argue that he should have been given the starter's role so that he could "develop" is just misguided and shows a fundamental lack of understanding about the dynamics around the team for the last few years. Of course, then the team tried to speed up the process by anointing him the starter the next year without the benefit of him actually having earned the job. Which apparently, pissed off the football gods enough to allow Purdy to step in and steal his thunder. Lance may end up just being a victim of bad luck. But at the moment, he still has an opportunity to step up and show what he is capable of.

LOL

So, you write off Trey's potential his rookie season, suggesting that he shouldn't play under most circumstances, then criticize him for not proving himself before the start of his second season.

...as usual...

Where did he do that? I read from 81 that TL is a "victim of bad luck"
give me a line in his post where he does the bold
Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
Every third post of his refers to jimmy which I think is weird af..
dude just can't move on

Because the guy who's trying to take a shot at Trey excused every mistake Jimmy ever made.

Perhaps those bashing Trey about a game from 2022 should move on too?
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Jun 6, 2023 at 2:32 PM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Where did he do that? I read from 81 that TL is a "victim of bad luck"
give me a line in his post where he does the bold

What does not actually earning the job mean to you? Clearly that's a suggestion he didn't prove himself.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Jun 6, 2023 at 2:34 PM ]
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Where did he do that? I read from 81 that TL is a "victim of bad luck"
give me a line in his post where he does the bold

What does not actually earning the job mean to you? Clearly that's a suggestion he didn't prove himself.

Lol, it is?

Remember that offseason. JG was busted up and not throwing. Who was TL even competing against? He was handed the gig. I don't think that's a slight against him.. but I think that is a known thing that happened. Remember the 'learning on the fly' quote?

It was the plan from the beginning of the KC model, bridge QB year 1 (JG), roll with TL year 2, that's what we were doing.. That's no knock on TL, that was the plan of KS.

Then he got hurt, no fault of TL whatsoever.. and BP eventually entered the picture.
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