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May 23, 2023 at 8:06 AM
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
The stat that stands out to me is their playoff performance.

Jimmy's 6 playoff games combined stats compared to Purdy's first playoff game lol... its mind boggling... I'll try to find the stats and post. Found it.....


its in the tweet lol... crazy...

We all know Jimmy was awful in the playoffs. I would hope we all want better there. Also why didn't he include all of Brock's playoff games like he did with Jimmy? I think a lot of us are talking about Jimmy when he had CMC, which is what Brock had as well. This dude talks about cherry picking but is doing it in his own right lol.

Like others said the scoring improvement was do to Brock's crazy TD%. That's a stat that imo can change awful quickly year to year. Hopefully it doesn't and he just becomes the highest TD% of all-time lol…but I do think it's reasonable to assume some sort of regression there.

Yeah, I'm sure he will come down some. We can't expect him to break a ton of TD records like he did continually. Lol as long as it's still in the top 5, I'm good with that.

i think it's naive to assume it won't come down. Lol but it would be amazing if it didn't

For sure. Film is out there now. Tendencies. DC's already know Kyle and now have an off season to plan for Brock. The good news is everyone in the world knew Kyle + Jimmy and still couldn't stop them so I don't expect a major drop off for Purdy either.

As a fan base we gotta be smart about all of it…when someone is having wildTD% and a crazy TD/INT ratio in a small sample size, you have to prepare for regression to the mean a little (or a lot who knows).
May 23, 2023 at 8:20 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
As a fan base we gotta be smart about all of it…when someone is having wildTD% and a crazy TD/INT ratio in a small sample size, you have to prepare for regression to the mean a little (or a lot who knows).

Fair enough, but we might also consider what Brock did, he did with almost no practice in Kyle's offense. Kyle has said he will be better this year, and I just can't see how we wouldn't expect that to be true.
May 23, 2023 at 8:22 AM
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
As a fan base we gotta be smart about all of it…when someone is having wildTD% and a crazy TD/INT ratio in a small sample size, you have to prepare for regression to the mean a little (or a lot who knows).

Fair enough, but we might also consider what Brock did, he did with almost no practice in Kyle's offense. Kyle has said he will be better this year, and I just can't see how we wouldn't expect that to be true.

True.

We can also say the same thing about Jimmy in 2017 on a much much worse team.
May 23, 2023 at 8:26 AM
Trey in the background while they have Brock address the fans

May 23, 2023 at 8:26 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
The stat that stands out to me is their playoff performance.

Jimmy's 6 playoff games combined stats compared to Purdy's first playoff game lol... its mind boggling... I'll try to find the stats and post. Found it.....


its in the tweet lol... crazy...

We all know Jimmy was awful in the playoffs. I would hope we all want better there. Also why didn't he include all of Brock's playoff games like he did with Jimmy? I think a lot of us are talking about Jimmy when he had CMC, which is what Brock had as well. This dude talks about cherry picking but is doing it in his own right lol.

Like others said the scoring improvement was do to Brock's crazy TD%. That's a stat that imo can change awful quickly year to year. Hopefully it doesn't and he just becomes the highest TD% of all-time lol…but I do think it's reasonable to assume some sort of regression there.

Yeah, I'm sure he will come down some. We can't expect him to break a ton of TD records like he did continually. Lol as long as it's still in the top 5, I'm good with that.

i think it's naive to assume it won't come down. Lol but it would be amazing if it didn't

For sure. Film is out there now. Tendencies. DC's already know Kyle and now have an off season to plan for Brock. The good news is everyone in the world knew Kyle + Jimmy and still couldn't stop them so I don't expect a major drop off for Purdy either.

As a fan base we gotta be smart about all of it…when someone is having wildTD% and a crazy TD/INT ratio in a small sample size, you have to prepare for regression to the mean a little (or a lot who knows).

Absolutely, there will certainly be a regression to the mean over time, IMHO.
May 23, 2023 at 8:30 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
As a fan base we gotta be smart about all of it…when someone is having wildTD% and a crazy TD/INT ratio in a small sample size, you have to prepare for regression to the mean a little (or a lot who knows).

Fair enough, but we might also consider what Brock did, he did with almost no practice in Kyle's offense. Kyle has said he will be better this year, and I just can't see how we wouldn't expect that to be true.

True.

We can also say the same thing about Jimmy in 2017 on a much much worse team.

Ah, but here's the difference. Guys like Kaepernick to a large extent, and Jimmy to a lesser degree, just didn't grow and overcome their weaknesses. Brock is spending the whole off season studying film on plays and analyzing how they can be executed better. He's got the drive and football IQ benefit from that. Why could Jimmy Never improve his deep ball accuracy, or his field reading skills.
May 23, 2023 at 8:51 AM
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Trey in the background while they have Brock address the fans


Every fan loves Brock and what he did, but the continued need to knock Trey for things he hasn't done is absurd.
May 23, 2023 at 8:53 AM
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
As a fan base we gotta be smart about all of it…when someone is having wildTD% and a crazy TD/INT ratio in a small sample size, you have to prepare for regression to the mean a little (or a lot who knows).

Fair enough, but we might also consider what Brock did, he did with almost no practice in Kyle's offense. Kyle has said he will be better this year, and I just can't see how we wouldn't expect that to be true.

True.

We can also say the same thing about Jimmy in 2017 on a much much worse team.

Ah, but here's the difference. Guys like Kaepernick to a large extent, and Jimmy to a lesser degree, just didn't grow and overcome their weaknesses. Brock is spending the whole off season studying film on plays and analyzing how they can be executed better. He's got the drive and football IQ benefit from that. Why could Jimmy Never improve his deep ball accuracy, or his field reading skills.

Hate to break it to you, but Purdy hasn't done that yet either.
May 23, 2023 at 8:58 AM
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
As a fan base we gotta be smart about all of it…when someone is having wildTD% and a crazy TD/INT ratio in a small sample size, you have to prepare for regression to the mean a little (or a lot who knows).

Fair enough, but we might also consider what Brock did, he did with almost no practice in Kyle's offense. Kyle has said he will be better this year, and I just can't see how we wouldn't expect that to be true.

True.

We can also say the same thing about Jimmy in 2017 on a much much worse team.

Ah, but here's the difference. Guys like Kaepernick to a large extent, and Jimmy to a lesser degree, just didn't grow and overcome their weaknesses. Brock is spending the whole off season studying film on plays and analyzing how they can be executed better. He's got the drive and football IQ benefit from that. Why could Jimmy Never improve his deep ball accuracy, or his field reading skills.

Hate to break it to you, but Purdy hasn't done that yet either.

Wow. How do you think he came out of the gate so good?
May 23, 2023 at 9:07 AM
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Trey in the background while they have Brock address the fans


BCB Legend
May 23, 2023 at 9:11 AM
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
As a fan base we gotta be smart about all of it…when someone is having wildTD% and a crazy TD/INT ratio in a small sample size, you have to prepare for regression to the mean a little (or a lot who knows).

Fair enough, but we might also consider what Brock did, he did with almost no practice in Kyle's offense. Kyle has said he will be better this year, and I just can't see how we wouldn't expect that to be true.

True.

We can also say the same thing about Jimmy in 2017 on a much much worse team.

Ah, but here's the difference. Guys like Kaepernick to a large extent, and Jimmy to a lesser degree, just didn't grow and overcome their weaknesses. Brock is spending the whole off season studying film on plays and analyzing how they can be executed better. He's got the drive and football IQ benefit from that. Why could Jimmy Never improve his deep ball accuracy, or his field reading skills.

Hate to break it to you, but Purdy hasn't done that yet either.

Wow. How do you think he came out of the gate so good?

Just so we're on the same page, are you comparing Purdy's fantastic start to other QBs overcoming their weaknesses? I'm not sure I follow, but please continue.
May 23, 2023 at 9:51 AM
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:

😍😍. Love it. That's really impressive. He was money on those passes

he completely was putting it on guys, not just completing but dotting, right between the numbers stuff

His tight window throws were drool worthy. There are quite a few throws that I was just like "wow".

what I really liked is he was able to hit tight window throws on short, middle, deep. & the redzone

Agree, those tight window passes are reminiscent to me of Brees. Man o Man did Kyle get lucky if he got a more mobile Brees. We shall see.

Tight window throws?

[tweet

So basically if this team has the highest expected completion percentage, then our QBs overall attempted easier throws than every other QB in the league? Interesting.

Somewhat unrelated, but it's weird that Jimmy was equal or better than Brock in almost every advanced stat in the game where he played with CMC, but the team scored more points with Brock under center. Not sure what to make of that.

You have to actually watch the games to be able to figure out things like that.

I mean he's right and you know how I feel about Jimmy. I do remember the defense taking the ball away in the DC game setting them up fairly well. not sure about the others off the top of my head.

I feel like Brock played well in the RZ. someone pointed his numbers but it felt better lol.

His numbers throwing to the right side of the field were really bad, not sure what to make of that and it's worth monitoring.

He's right about what? Jimmy's advanced stats in one game were equal to or better than Purdy's over a 7-8 game stretch? What kind of comparison is that? Not to mention, it was ridiculously obvious how much better Purdy was than Jimmy.

But this is where we are. The Trey fans are so hell bent on minimizing Purdy, they are now embracing and lifting up Jimmy to attempt to make that happen. Lol it's funny at this point.
May 23, 2023 at 10:00 AM
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
As a fan base we gotta be smart about all of it…when someone is having wildTD% and a crazy TD/INT ratio in a small sample size, you have to prepare for regression to the mean a little (or a lot who knows).

Fair enough, but we might also consider what Brock did, he did with almost no practice in Kyle's offense. Kyle has said he will be better this year, and I just can't see how we wouldn't expect that to be true.

True.

We can also say the same thing about Jimmy in 2017 on a much much worse team.

Ah, but here's the difference. Guys like Kaepernick to a large extent, and Jimmy to a lesser degree, just didn't grow and overcome their weaknesses. Brock is spending the whole off season studying film on plays and analyzing how they can be executed better. He's got the drive and football IQ benefit from that. Why could Jimmy Never improve his deep ball accuracy, or his field reading skills.

Hate to break it to you, but Purdy hasn't done that yet either.

Wow. How do you think he came out of the gate so good?

Just so we're on the same page, are you comparing Purdy's fantastic start to other QBs overcoming their weaknesses? I'm not sure I follow, but please continue.

I'm talking about Brock's proven ability to learn and get better, which he has done even with limited opportunity to play. No matter where on the development line. Some quarterbacks, sorry, like Kap, play their game, and never improve in an offense.

Brock is clearly getting better. I'll bet Trey shows up better too. I know he has the drive. And I expect Sam is here to learn Kyle's offense. I do not think Kap nor Jimmy ever improved within this offense to a large degree.
May 23, 2023 at 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Furlow:
He's right about what? Jimmy's advanced stats in one game were equal to or better than Purdy's over a 7-8 game stretch? What kind of comparison is that? Not to mention, it was ridiculously obvious how much better Purdy was than Jimmy.

But this is where we are. The Trey fans are so hell bent on minimizing Purdy, they are now embracing and lifting up Jimmy to attempt to make that happen. Lol it's funny at this point.

I rarely agree with NY, yet let's remember how JG looked in his first 5, or CK.. I mean JGs 2017 was every bit as good as BP if not better, due to the team he was on, vs the team BP was on. I can't sit here and say a guy with 5 regular season starts, pick 262, with a blown up arm, is better than JG. JG is 40-17 and 99 rated. I think ppl take for granted how well he was playing, when healthy he could play.

The one area I see BP doing more so than JG, is he is 1000% more natural off schedule, or ad lib, which seems to be JGs kryptonite.
May 23, 2023 at 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:

😍😍. Love it. That's really impressive. He was money on those passes

he completely was putting it on guys, not just completing but dotting, right between the numbers stuff

His tight window throws were drool worthy. There are quite a few throws that I was just like "wow".

what I really liked is he was able to hit tight window throws on short, middle, deep. & the redzone

Agree, those tight window passes are reminiscent to me of Brees. Man o Man did Kyle get lucky if he got a more mobile Brees. We shall see.

Tight window throws?

[tweet

So basically if this team has the highest expected completion percentage, then our QBs overall attempted easier throws than every other QB in the league? Interesting.

Somewhat unrelated, but it's weird that Jimmy was equal or better than Brock in almost every advanced stat in the game where he played with CMC, but the team scored more points with Brock under center. Not sure what to make of that.

You have to actually watch the games to be able to figure out things like that.

I mean he's right and you know how I feel about Jimmy. I do remember the defense taking the ball away in the DC game setting them up fairly well. not sure about the others off the top of my head.

I feel like Brock played well in the RZ. someone pointed his numbers but it felt better lol.

His numbers throwing to the right side of the field were really bad, not sure what to make of that and it's worth monitoring.

He's right about what? Jimmy's advanced stats in one game were equal to or better than Purdy's over a 7-8 game stretch? What kind of comparison is that? Not to mention, it was ridiculously obvious how much better Purdy was than Jimmy.

But this is where we are. The Trey fans are so hell bent on minimizing Purdy, they are now embracing and lifting up Jimmy to attempt to make that happen. Lol it's funny at this point.

It was a typo. I was referring to the four games that Jimmy played with CMC once CMC had been integrated into the offense. A small sample size, but so are the 8 games with Purdy. If it was so obvious that Purdy was playing that much better than Jimmy, you'd think it'd be reflected in the advanced stats.
[ Edited by 49ersRing on May 23, 2023 at 10:09 AM ]
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