Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by tankle104:
For all the folks posting things saying you can learn anything or develop anything at the QB position - Kyle himself said "either you have it or you don't" when it comes to certain mental aspects of playing qb. Lol I've been saying this for a while, there are aspects of playing qb at an elite level that can't be learned. I'm not saying Lance doesn't have it, but the argument that anytbing can be learned is false. A lot of things can be learned/developed but not everything, especially the mental side.
https://youtu.be/4hPRtJtEjds
start at 7:20 mark
I don't know of anyone saying a QB can learn anything. It's not possible to learn how to run fast or have a strong arm. The fact Kyle agrees that some things can't be learned tells me that he thinks Trey already has these traits.
If he drafted him, you better hope he believes that. Lol i don't see why he wouldn't believe that. This wasn't an underhanded shot at Lance. lol just that debate of "anyone can learn/develop all aspects of being a great qb". When it comes to Lance, my personal thoughts - I haven't SEEN it but that doesn't mean it's not there. He's played such little amount of football in his life that it could be there but it hasn't come out. But in the film And everything throughout his life that I've watched of him, I haven't seen what I feel like are those instincts/mental side of playing when at an elite level. Doesn't mean it isn't there - I just personally don't think it's shown through in his film yet. I'm hoping now that he is healthy and much more experienced in our system and competing Etc - that it shines through. I sometimes worry that he's too chill and nice. Lol which are awesome qualities but idk if they are for a qb.
i don't get that "maniac" feel from him. For example, Bree's, Brady, Rodgers, manning etc - they are nice guys etc when you listen to them talk but you just know underneath they're more intense and serious than cancer. They're maniacs about the game. It's almost intimidating. If that makes sense.
im just saying that when it comes to the mental/instinctual side of the game, not everything can be learned or handled. Either you can or you can't, if you can't - doesn't mean they're dumb or not decent QBs. Just means they'll never be great. Essentially, game managers and that's why most players are game managers.
everyone likes to think we are all equal and it's just not true. We are all wired different mentally and our minds work differently.
take Jimmy for example, he has numerous years of top notch coaching, playing experience, and players around him - there is a certain level he's never got over. He has all the physical ability (he isn't a freak but he isn't a dud either, Kyle said he's an amazing thrower of the ball).
If you're wired right and have the physical ability - then yes, it's just time and work before you can get there. I think Bree's is a great example.
there are just mental and instinctual aspects you have to have to be great, your physical ability won't overcome that and you can't just get it. It'll always be a limitation for players who don't have it. Whatever the hell "it" is.
[ Edited by tankle104 on May 13, 2023 at 11:14 AM ]