QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
So did Jimmy during his stretch with CMC as an outlet...not so much earlier in the year. Kyle says it himself, sometimes he's rolling and other times, not so much: I've got to do better as a play caller. Fortunately for us, he's one of the better play callers and his lows don't last long. But make no mistake about it; he runs this b***h.

It was a different level with Purdy.

A QB who shows consistency will get more trust

Control and freedom within a system is different than trust earned for Kyle. That's what tank was highlighting.

Did Kyle really call more than his usual two calculated deeper shots per game despite Brock showing he was willing and capable?

Prove it then.

it's more about you proving Kyle doesn't want to go deep

He certainly proved exactly the same to me despite a different QB esp. in his deeper (calculated) shots. Spray charts were identical too. That said, it's not like Kyle had a full off season to tailor an offense for Brock. So stay tuned...the jury is still out. But either way, HE runs this b***h.

Spray charts doesn't show systems, philosophy or what the Coach wants. It just shows where the QB decided to go or what the defense gave.

if you don't recall.. Brock apologizing to Aiyuk that he missed him and owes him one. If Brock is throwing to what Kyle wanted, there's nothing for Brock to apologize about

Over time, it absolutely does esp. when you factor in the mass majority of completions (IIRC, 70%+) go to the first read. Signal callers matter. Unless you think Kyle isn't good at getting his first reads open.

What are you even trying to say here ? that Kyle doesn't have multiple primary routes ? and that if he doesn't have multiple primary routes he's a bad at getting the first read open due to the spray charts?

I mean just what I said. Kyle is the OC. He draws up the primary and any QB anywhere is going to go there 70% of the time. Eventually that spray chart is going to show you the OC's tendencies; not the QB. This is why Brock and Jimmy's spray charts were identical last year. B/c...like I've said forever, Kyle runs this b***h. Sorry, not Jimmy Garoppolo. LOL. He will now though...in LV. Hence what Tank was talking about.

That is false, Brocks are more spread out evenly from side line to side line. Jimmy was all clustered in the middle until CMC.

but you can bring up all the spray charts for most of the QBs and all are similar. Was looking at Mahomes and it's the same as brocks but PM just had more attempts

They were identical. Spray charts show you where the ball is going, completed or not (end result).

Charts in no way indicate where the ball is going or what direction or what the defense is showing. Kyle is not thinking i need the ball to be in these areas

The play calls have options at every level, it's up to the QB on where to go based on what the defense is giving up

I think it's more of an indication of where the defense focuses on trying to stop us, in a lot of cases. Kyle always says he calls plays based on what he is seeing from the defense and how best to attack em.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
Some Brock Purdy good stuff
https://www.nfl.com/videos/next-gen-stats-brock-purdy-s-5-most-improbable-completions-2022-regular-season
It's not like Jimmy never got these routes up the sideline called for him - they've been there. But Brock has a willingness to target them, bypassing on the underneath route, even when pressured.

Yeah, both Trey and Purdy have shown to be more aggressive and keep their eyes downfield than jimmy. Jimmy wasn't too good at those deeper passes and I think he knew that, hence why he constantly passed theM up.

i love the accuracy Purdy has shown for the most part on his more aggressive passes, although he got lucky on a few bad reads into double coverage etc.

No doubt. But I think its natural for a young QB to be more bold and aggressive esp. off script. That often times can get coached out of players though over time or modified for other reasons (Alex and Jimmy). I think Kyle will continue to dial up his 1 or 2 calculated (higher %) deeper shots per game just the same. It sounded like Brock started missing quite a few primary reads as time went on. That's my only concern (aside from health and post surgery arm strength). It takes trust and conviction in the bigger plays; confidence. As Kyle refines the play book for Brock and as Brock focuses more and more on executing what Kyle draws up, will he lose some of that aggression and ad lib tendency? I believe in Brock esp. b/c of his processing speed and ability but it's something to watch for.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by thl408:
Some Brock Purdy good stuff
https://www.nfl.com/videos/next-gen-stats-brock-purdy-s-5-most-improbable-completions-2022-regular-season
It's not like Jimmy never got these routes up the sideline called for him - they've been there. But Brock has a willingness to target them, bypassing on the underneath route, even when pressured.

that is what you call freedom in Kyle's system

#1 is my favorite, for sure. That is about as tight as it gets. they were all awesome though.

plays like those are the ones I don't think we've seen consistently in a long time, just here and there. I believe Purdy has all the traits and ability to be an elite qb. He just won't make it as sexy as guys like mahommes does, but idc as long as we win a chip.

id love to see the probability and separation on the one Aiyuk dropped in the playoffs. 😍😍. He had another beautiful tight window throw to CMC in the endzone that was dropped.

Of all the worst injuries that could happen to our QB, at least this injury won't take away his legs and quickness to get away

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by thl408:
Some Brock Purdy good stuff
https://www.nfl.com/videos/next-gen-stats-brock-purdy-s-5-most-improbable-completions-2022-regular-season
It's not like Jimmy never got these routes up the sideline called for him - they've been there. But Brock has a willingness to target them, bypassing on the underneath route, even when pressured.

that is what you call freedom in Kyle's system

#1 is my favorite, for sure. That is about as tight as it gets. they were all awesome though.

plays like those are the ones I don't think we've seen consistently in a long time, just here and there. I believe Purdy has all the traits and ability to be an elite qb. He just won't make it as sexy as guys like mahommes does, but idc as long as we win a chip.

id love to see the probability and separation on the one Aiyuk dropped in the playoffs. 😍😍. He had another beautiful tight window throw to CMC in the endzone that was dropped.

Of all the worst injuries that could happen to our QB, at least this injury won't take away his legs and quickness to get away

Good point. Kyler Murray agrees.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
So did Jimmy during his stretch with CMC as an outlet...not so much earlier in the year. Kyle says it himself, sometimes he's rolling and other times, not so much: I've got to do better as a play caller. Fortunately for us, he's one of the better play callers and his lows don't last long. But make no mistake about it; he runs this b***h.

It was a different level with Purdy.

A QB who shows consistency will get more trust

Control and freedom within a system is different than trust earned for Kyle. That's what tank was highlighting.

Did Kyle really call more than his usual two calculated deeper shots per game despite Brock showing he was willing and capable?

Prove it then.

it's more about you proving Kyle doesn't want to go deep

He certainly proved exactly the same to me despite a different QB esp. in his deeper (calculated) shots. Spray charts were identical too. That said, it's not like Kyle had a full off season to tailor an offense for Brock. So stay tuned...the jury is still out. But either way, HE runs this b***h.

Spray charts doesn't show systems, philosophy or what the Coach wants. It just shows where the QB decided to go or what the defense gave.

if you don't recall.. Brock apologizing to Aiyuk that he missed him and owes him one. If Brock is throwing to what Kyle wanted, there's nothing for Brock to apologize about

Over time, it absolutely does esp. when you factor in the mass majority of completions (IIRC, 70%+) go to the first read. Signal callers matter. Unless you think Kyle isn't good at getting his first reads open.

What are you even trying to say here ? that Kyle doesn't have multiple primary routes ? and that if he doesn't have multiple primary routes he's a bad at getting the first read open due to the spray charts?

I mean just what I said. Kyle is the OC. He draws up the primary and any QB anywhere is going to go there 70% of the time. Eventually that spray chart is going to show you the OC's tendencies; not the QB. This is why Brock and Jimmy's spray charts were identical last year. B/c...like I've said forever, Kyle runs this b***h. Sorry, not Jimmy Garoppolo. LOL. He will now though...in LV. Hence what Tank was talking about.

That is false, Brocks are more spread out evenly from side line to side line. Jimmy was all clustered in the middle until CMC.

but you can bring up all the spray charts for most of the QBs and all are similar. Was looking at Mahomes and it's the same as brocks but PM just had more attempts

They were identical. Spray charts show you where the ball is going, completed or not (end result).

Charts in no way indicate where the ball is going or what direction or what the defense is showing. Kyle is not thinking i need the ball to be in these areas

The play calls have options at every level, it's up to the QB on where to go based on what the defense is giving up

I think it's more of an indication of where the defense focuses on trying to stop us, in a lot of cases. Kyle always says he calls plays based on what he is seeing from the defense and how best to attack em.

Naturally. But everyone in the world knew Kyle/Jimmy would be attacking the middle of the field and they still couldn't stop it, esp. on 3rd downs (Brock too). So maybe it doesn't matter. LOL

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
Some Brock Purdy good stuff
https://www.nfl.com/videos/next-gen-stats-brock-purdy-s-5-most-improbable-completions-2022-regular-season
It's not like Jimmy never got these routes up the sideline called for him - they've been there. But Brock has a willingness to target them, bypassing on the underneath route, even when pressured.

Yeah, both Trey and Purdy have shown to be more aggressive and keep their eyes downfield than jimmy. Jimmy wasn't too good at those deeper passes and I think he knew that, hence why he constantly passed theM up.

i love the accuracy Purdy has shown for the most part on his more aggressive passes, although he got lucky on a few bad reads into double coverage etc.

No doubt. But I think its natural for a young QB to be more bold and aggressive esp. off script. That often times can get coached out of players though over time or modified for other reasons (Alex and Jimmy). I think Kyle will continue to dial up his 1 or 2 calculated (higher %) deeper shots per game just the same. It sounded like Brock started missing quite a few primary reads as time went on. That's my only concern (aside from health and post surgery arm strength). It takes trust and conviction in the bigger plays; confidence. As Kyle refines the play book for Brock and as Brock focuses more and more on executing what Kyle draws up, will he lose some of that aggression and ad lib tendency? I believe in Brock esp. b/c of his processing speed and ability but it's something to watch for.

Yeah, I hope Kyle takes notes from Kerr and lets the player be himself - like he does with curry/klay. Even if it's traditionally considered "not safe" etc. you have to let a player be themselves within your system, as long as it's working.

i think kyles system totally bogged down jimmy and his natural instincts. He looked much slower than he did in 2017, idk how much was the acl though

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Saints have been over the cap for like 15 years straight now. The numbers will work themselves out. If they truly don't believe that Lance has any actual franchise QB future then the sooner they cut ties, the better. Salvage whatever you can get and move on.

If they still think that he can be coached into a high end starting QB then they're not going to move him for anything short of a blockbuster deal.

There is entirely too much reason in this post.

Trey isn't going anywhere. He'll compete to start this year and then the FO will see where we're at.

On a side note, every time the FO is serious about trading a player, that player is always injured or just coming off a serious injury/surgery (so there's limited value). From Jimmy to McGlinchey to Trey. So frustrating. Meanwhile, the Seahawks get 7 first round picks for Russell Wilson...who then immediately gets injured.

The injuries on this team have been completely inhumane. But maybe the law of averages will start to work in our favor and give us 10 + years of perfect health. 🤞🤞🤞🤞

I love this take. It just means we're due for 10 great years of health and Superbowl wins, right?!?

49ers had good health along the lines last year, but for right tackle. Hope that continues. Durability is also ability, and I hope the 49ers continue to emphasize this in their draft tonight.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by thl408:
Some Brock Purdy good stuff
https://www.nfl.com/videos/next-gen-stats-brock-purdy-s-5-most-improbable-completions-2022-regular-season
It's not like Jimmy never got these routes up the sideline called for him - they've been there. But Brock has a willingness to target them, bypassing on the underneath route, even when pressured.

that is what you call freedom in Kyle's system

#1 is my favorite, for sure. That is about as tight as it gets. they were all awesome though.

plays like those are the ones I don't think we've seen consistently in a long time, just here and there. I believe Purdy has all the traits and ability to be an elite qb. He just won't make it as sexy as guys like mahommes does, but idc as long as we win a chip.

id love to see the probability and separation on the one Aiyuk dropped in the playoffs. 😍😍. He had another beautiful tight window throw to CMC in the endzone that was dropped.

Of all the worst injuries that could happen to our QB, at least this injury won't take away his legs and quickness to get away

I wish it would of been the UCL in his non throwing arm 😭. But you're right, I'm glad it won't impact his mobility because that is a huge part of Purdys game.

it's something to watch with Trey, even if it's psychological and not physical, how the broken/dislocated ankle impacts his mobility or scrambling. I don't think it will but it's something I'll pay attention to.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
Some Brock Purdy good stuff
https://www.nfl.com/videos/next-gen-stats-brock-purdy-s-5-most-improbable-completions-2022-regular-season
It's not like Jimmy never got these routes up the sideline called for him - they've been there. But Brock has a willingness to target them, bypassing on the underneath route, even when pressured.

Yeah, both Trey and Purdy have shown to be more aggressive and keep their eyes downfield than jimmy. Jimmy wasn't too good at those deeper passes and I think he knew that, hence why he constantly passed theM up.

i love the accuracy Purdy has shown for the most part on his more aggressive passes, although he got lucky on a few bad reads into double coverage etc.

No doubt. But I think its natural for a young QB to be more bold and aggressive esp. off script. That often times can get coached out of players though over time or modified for other reasons (Alex and Jimmy). I think Kyle will continue to dial up his 1 or 2 calculated (higher %) deeper shots per game just the same. It sounded like Brock started missing quite a few primary reads as time went on. That's my only concern (aside from health and post surgery arm strength). It takes trust and conviction in the bigger plays; confidence. As Kyle refines the play book for Brock and as Brock focuses more and more on executing what Kyle draws up, will he lose some of that aggression and ad lib tendency? I believe in Brock esp. b/c of his processing speed and ability but it's something to watch for.

Yeah, I hope Kyle takes notes from Kerr and lets the player be himself - like he does with curry/klay. Even if it's traditionally considered "not safe" etc. you have to let a player be themselves within your system, as long as it's working.

i think kyles system totally bogged down jimmy and his natural instincts. He looked much slower than he did in 2017, idk how much was the acl though

I think that was more Scangarello than Kyle, because Griese improved Jimmy from the year before.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Naturally. But everyone in the world knew Kyle/Jimmy would be attacking the middle of the field and they still couldn't stop it, esp. on 3rd downs (Brock too). So maybe it doesn't matter. LOL

Yeah, Jimmy has a great release and very accurate in the middle. Very hard to stop.

Kyles system constantly opened it though with using decoys. Especially with CMC. He opened up our system a lot. Literally the perfect guy for this system.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
So did Jimmy during his stretch with CMC as an outlet...not so much earlier in the year. Kyle says it himself, sometimes he's rolling and other times, not so much: I've got to do better as a play caller. Fortunately for us, he's one of the better play callers and his lows don't last long. But make no mistake about it; he runs this b***h.

It was a different level with Purdy.

A QB who shows consistency will get more trust

Control and freedom within a system is different than trust earned for Kyle. That's what tank was highlighting.

Did Kyle really call more than his usual two calculated deeper shots per game despite Brock showing he was willing and capable?

Prove it then.

it's more about you proving Kyle doesn't want to go deep

He certainly proved exactly the same to me despite a different QB esp. in his deeper (calculated) shots. Spray charts were identical too. That said, it's not like Kyle had a full off season to tailor an offense for Brock. So stay tuned...the jury is still out. But either way, HE runs this b***h.

Spray charts doesn't show systems, philosophy or what the Coach wants. It just shows where the QB decided to go or what the defense gave.

if you don't recall.. Brock apologizing to Aiyuk that he missed him and owes him one. If Brock is throwing to what Kyle wanted, there's nothing for Brock to apologize about

Over time, it absolutely does esp. when you factor in the mass majority of completions (IIRC, 70%+) go to the first read. Signal callers matter. Unless you think Kyle isn't good at getting his first reads open.

What are you even trying to say here ? that Kyle doesn't have multiple primary routes ? and that if he doesn't have multiple primary routes he's a bad at getting the first read open due to the spray charts?

I mean just what I said. Kyle is the OC. He draws up the primary and any QB anywhere is going to go there 70% of the time. Eventually that spray chart is going to show you the OC's tendencies; not the QB. This is why Brock and Jimmy's spray charts were identical last year. B/c...like I've said forever, Kyle runs this b***h. Sorry, not Jimmy Garoppolo. LOL. He will now though...in LV. Hence what Tank was talking about.

That is false, Brocks are more spread out evenly from side line to side line. Jimmy was all clustered in the middle until CMC.

but you can bring up all the spray charts for most of the QBs and all are similar. Was looking at Mahomes and it's the same as brocks but PM just had more attempts

They were identical. Spray charts show you where the ball is going, completed or not (end result).

Charts in no way indicate where the ball is going or what direction or what the defense is showing. Kyle is not thinking i need the ball to be in these areas

The play calls have options at every level, it's up to the QB on where to go based on what the defense is giving up

I think it's more of an indication of where the defense focuses on trying to stop us, in a lot of cases. Kyle always says he calls plays based on what he is seeing from the defense and how best to attack em.

Those plays called still has options at every level. Brock was able to capitalize on those options when defenses tried to take away certain options, It's why the offense was more dangerous and had better flow with Brock than jimmy

I mean we haven't had the best QB play, but were still able to score and win the majority of the time

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
Some Brock Purdy good stuff
https://www.nfl.com/videos/next-gen-stats-brock-purdy-s-5-most-improbable-completions-2022-regular-season
It's not like Jimmy never got these routes up the sideline called for him - they've been there. But Brock has a willingness to target them, bypassing on the underneath route, even when pressured.

Yeah, both Trey and Purdy have shown to be more aggressive and keep their eyes downfield than jimmy. Jimmy wasn't too good at those deeper passes and I think he knew that, hence why he constantly passed theM up.

i love the accuracy Purdy has shown for the most part on his more aggressive passes, although he got lucky on a few bad reads into double coverage etc.

No doubt. But I think its natural for a young QB to be more bold and aggressive esp. off script. That often times can get coached out of players though over time or modified for other reasons (Alex and Jimmy). I think Kyle will continue to dial up his 1 or 2 calculated (higher %) deeper shots per game just the same. It sounded like Brock started missing quite a few primary reads as time went on. That's my only concern (aside from health and post surgery arm strength). It takes trust and conviction in the bigger plays; confidence. As Kyle refines the play book for Brock and as Brock focuses more and more on executing what Kyle draws up, will he lose some of that aggression and ad lib tendency? I believe in Brock esp. b/c of his processing speed and ability but it's something to watch for.

Yeah, I hope Kyle takes notes from Kerr and lets the player be himself - like he does with curry/klay. Even if it's traditionally considered "not safe" etc. you have to let a player be themselves within your system, as long as it's working.

i think kyles system totally bogged down jimmy and his natural instincts. He looked much slower than he did in 2017, idk how much was the acl though

I think that was more Scangarello than Kyle, because Griese improved Jimmy from the year before.

Definitely possible, might be a combination of it all, who knows. He definitely looked slower out there decision making and aggressiveness though form 2017, probably because he was out there playing backyard ball.

it's why I think he will have a great year in LV in that system.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Those plays called still has options at every level. Brock was able to capitalize on those options when defenses tried to take away certain options, It's why the offense was more dangerous and had better flow with Brock than jimmy

I mean we haven't had the best QB play, but were still able to score and win the majority of the time

I thought Brock did an excellent job of adjusting to the defense and learning quickly. That was very very encouraging to me.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by NCommand:
So did Jimmy during his stretch with CMC as an outlet...not so much earlier in the year. Kyle says it himself, sometimes he's rolling and other times, not so much: I've got to do better as a play caller. Fortunately for us, he's one of the better play callers and his lows don't last long. But make no mistake about it; he runs this b***h.

It was a different level with Purdy.

A QB who shows consistency will get more trust

Control and freedom within a system is different than trust earned for Kyle. That's what tank was highlighting.

Did Kyle really call more than his usual two calculated deeper shots per game despite Brock showing he was willing and capable?

Prove it then.

it's more about you proving Kyle doesn't want to go deep

He certainly proved exactly the same to me despite a different QB esp. in his deeper (calculated) shots. Spray charts were identical too. That said, it's not like Kyle had a full off season to tailor an offense for Brock. So stay tuned...the jury is still out. But either way, HE runs this b***h.

Spray charts doesn't show systems, philosophy or what the Coach wants. It just shows where the QB decided to go or what the defense gave.

if you don't recall.. Brock apologizing to Aiyuk that he missed him and owes him one. If Brock is throwing to what Kyle wanted, there's nothing for Brock to apologize about

Over time, it absolutely does esp. when you factor in the mass majority of completions (IIRC, 70%+) go to the first read. Signal callers matter. Unless you think Kyle isn't good at getting his first reads open.

What are you even trying to say here ? that Kyle doesn't have multiple primary routes ? and that if he doesn't have multiple primary routes he's a bad at getting the first read open due to the spray charts?

I mean just what I said. Kyle is the OC. He draws up the primary and any QB anywhere is going to go there 70% of the time. Eventually that spray chart is going to show you the OC's tendencies; not the QB. This is why Brock and Jimmy's spray charts were identical last year. B/c...like I've said forever, Kyle runs this b***h. Sorry, not Jimmy Garoppolo. LOL. He will now though...in LV. Hence what Tank was talking about.

That is false, Brocks are more spread out evenly from side line to side line. Jimmy was all clustered in the middle until CMC.

but you can bring up all the spray charts for most of the QBs and all are similar. Was looking at Mahomes and it's the same as brocks but PM just had more attempts

They were identical. Spray charts show you where the ball is going, completed or not (end result).

Charts in no way indicate where the ball is going or what direction or what the defense is showing. Kyle is not thinking i need the ball to be in these areas

The play calls have options at every level, it's up to the QB on where to go based on what the defense is giving up

I think it's more of an indication of where the defense focuses on trying to stop us, in a lot of cases. Kyle always says he calls plays based on what he is seeing from the defense and how best to attack em.

Naturally. But everyone in the world knew Kyle/Jimmy would be attacking the middle of the field and they still couldn't stop it, esp. on 3rd downs (Brock too). So maybe it doesn't matter. LOL

Personally, I think the secret of Kyle's offensive success is that pass catching RB on 3rd downs. I love those flair out passes to the RB when the Defense clogs the middle of the field.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by thl408:
Some Brock Purdy good stuff
https://www.nfl.com/videos/next-gen-stats-brock-purdy-s-5-most-improbable-completions-2022-regular-season
It's not like Jimmy never got these routes up the sideline called for him - they've been there. But Brock has a willingness to target them, bypassing on the underneath route, even when pressured.

Yeah, both Trey and Purdy have shown to be more aggressive and keep their eyes downfield than jimmy. Jimmy wasn't too good at those deeper passes and I think he knew that, hence why he constantly passed theM up.

i love the accuracy Purdy has shown for the most part on his more aggressive passes, although he got lucky on a few bad reads into double coverage etc.

No doubt. But I think its natural for a young QB to be more bold and aggressive esp. off script. That often times can get coached out of players though over time or modified for other reasons (Alex and Jimmy). I think Kyle will continue to dial up his 1 or 2 calculated (higher %) deeper shots per game just the same. It sounded like Brock started missing quite a few primary reads as time went on. That's my only concern (aside from health and post surgery arm strength). It takes trust and conviction in the bigger plays; confidence. As Kyle refines the play book for Brock and as Brock focuses more and more on executing what Kyle draws up, will he lose some of that aggression and ad lib tendency? I believe in Brock esp. b/c of his processing speed and ability but it's something to watch for.

Yeah, I hope Kyle takes notes from Kerr and lets the player be himself - like he does with curry/klay. Even if it's traditionally considered "not safe" etc. you have to let a player be themselves within your system, as long as it's working.

i think kyles system totally bogged down jimmy and his natural instincts. He looked much slower than he did in 2017, idk how much was the acl though

I think that was more Scangarello than Kyle, because Griese improved Jimmy from the year before.

Definitely possible, might be a combination of it all, who knows. He definitely looked slower out there decision making and aggressiveness though form 2017, probably because he was out there playing backyard ball.

it's why I think he will have a great year in LV in that system.

Agree, but I'll just point out that he was injured in that system too. Jimmy's a great QB, but for his durability.