QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
That's all any fan should want. I will bet you dollars to doughnuts however, that if it is Trey playing, those who want him gone will just say he was handed the job due to draft status.

I'm sure there will be people like that. I certainly won't be one of them.

I think the reality is if we see him play games this year outside of injury, the improvement in his game will be readily evident.

If Trey is starting, I'll root for him. I'm not a *insert player* fan. I'm a San Francisco 49ers fan.

now who I do and don't think is a good football player is a different situation. I'm not a fan of Trey but you can bet your bottom dollar that I would want him to do good if he is playing.

hell I'll hope he has a good career if he goes to another team. I don't want the kid to fail, that's weird. I just don't think he will be a great qb here and I don't want the starting qb for the 49ers to not be great.

It is a little weird if you think Trey has a better shot at a good career elsewhere.

Well its how you're reading what I said - I'll rephrase, I don't think he will be a great qb in this league in general. I don't think he will be a top 5 guy, regardless of whichever team he is on. I think he will be a dak prescott type guy. Top 8-12 player who is more of a game manager than an elite playmaker. I think he needs about two seasons of play to come close to that kind of play too. I think he's too raw to try and start and hope to compete for a chip with him. So by the time he is in that dak type range, the team will have aged and all the expensive contracts will be at their peak. Then we will have to pay Lance some ludicrous amount that will cripple us.

no thanks.
i don't think he's capable.

i also think Purdy showed some special abilities. I'd much rather Rock with the guy who we KNOW we can compete for a chip with. Going into his second year (usually the largest jump in play happens), and a super super cheap contract over the next three seasons.

it's ideal as long as Brock heals right and continues his level of play or near it.

That last sentence being the rub.

It is but So far it looks good. Still a long way to go.

i think if Purdy misses any games, it won't be because he can't physically play, it'll be to get him some more reps with the 1s.

He's on track right now, per Brock. So if he does start throwing by june 2, that means he will be throwing 6-7 weeks before training camp starts. Idk where his arm will be by then but I imagine at least 70-75%. Factor that with training camp and all that. He will be 100% by week 1.

the only question in my mind is what % strength does his arm need to be before he can start throwing in camp with the team. That'll be huge regarding him getting ready for game 1, if he can.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I understand the enthusiasm for Brock but I can't understand the disdain for Trey. How can anyone have a legitimate opinion on him given the small sample size. Everyone, including the Niners knew he was raw and would need a season or two to really develop. Unfortunately he was injured and never got much playing time. Judging him base don what we've seen so far is like seeing a star athlete in a cameo roll in a movie and declaring he sucks as an actor.

I don't know if Trey will ever be the guy they hoped for but after spending that much draft capital on him I sure as heck want to find out before I trade him or release him. The worst case scenario would be seeing him go to Seattle or the Rams and end up being a good QB that we had to face every year.

49ers fans are just passionate when it comes to 49ers QBs.

This combined with righteousness. Whenever there's a choice to make there's this quirk in human nature to view one as good and one as bad. People often take this to the extreme because it soothes their ego, even when the choice is totally out of their control. Personally I think Brock has shown more than enough to be the guy and that the likelihood that Trey will be able to perform at the same level is low, but we need a good backup with experience in Kyle's system in case Brock turns out to be injury prone, and Darnold is a fumble that talks.

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I understand the enthusiasm for Brock but I can't understand the disdain for Trey. How can anyone have a legitimate opinion on him given the small sample size. Everyone, including the Niners knew he was raw and would need a season or two to really develop. Unfortunately he was injured and never got much playing time. Judging him base don what we've seen so far is like seeing a star athlete in a cameo roll in a movie and declaring he sucks as an actor.

I don't know if Trey will ever be the guy they hoped for but after spending that much draft capital on him I sure as heck want to find out before I trade him or release him. The worst case scenario would be seeing him go to Seattle or the Rams and end up being a good QB that we had to face every year.

49ers fans are just passionate when it comes to 49ers QBs.

This combined with righteousness. Whenever there's a choice to make there's this quirk in human nature to view one as good and one as bad. People often take this to the extreme because it soothes their ego, even when the choice is totally out of their control. Personally I think Brock has shown more than enough to be the guy and that the likelihood that Trey will be able to perform at the same level is low, but we need a good backup with experience in Kyle's system in case Brock turns out to be injury prone, and Darnold is a fumble that talks.

I think a big issue with people in general is also that they can't/won't admit to being wrong, most of the time. Like it's attacks their identity - this tends to be a real issue when someone thinks they're smarter than others. It becomes an identity crisis when they are wrong. When in reality, it just makes them close minded.

People in general need to get more comfortable with the idea that there is nothing wrong with being wrong, at all. We are all wrong about things all the time. We don't know everything, no one does. When you can comfortably Admit you didn't know something or that your perspective was wrong, you actually become a lot more informed.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
That's all any fan should want. I will bet you dollars to doughnuts however, that if it is Trey playing, those who want him gone will just say he was handed the job due to draft status.

I'm sure there will be people like that. I certainly won't be one of them.

I think the reality is if we see him play games this year outside of injury, the improvement in his game will be readily evident.

If Trey is starting, I'll root for him. I'm not a *insert player* fan. I'm a San Francisco 49ers fan.

now who I do and don't think is a good football player is a different situation. I'm not a fan of Trey but you can bet your bottom dollar that I would want him to do good if he is playing.

hell I'll hope he has a good career if he goes to another team. I don't want the kid to fail, that's weird. I just don't think he will be a great qb here and I don't want the starting qb for the 49ers to not be great.

It is a little weird if you think Trey has a better shot at a good career elsewhere.

Well its how you're reading what I said - I'll rephrase, I don't think he will be a great qb in this league in general. I don't think he will be a top 5 guy, regardless of whichever team he is on. I think he will be a dak prescott type guy. Top 8-12 player who is more of a game manager than an elite playmaker. I think he needs about two seasons of play to come close to that kind of play too. I think he's too raw to try and start and hope to compete for a chip with him. So by the time he is in that dak type range, the team will have aged and all the expensive contracts will be at their peak. Then we will have to pay Lance some ludicrous amount that will cripple us.

no thanks.
i don't think he's capable.

i also think Purdy showed some special abilities. I'd much rather Rock with the guy who we KNOW we can compete for a chip with. Going into his second year (usually the largest jump in play happens), and a super super cheap contract over the next three seasons.

it's ideal as long as Brock heals right and continues his level of play or near it.

That last sentence being the rub.

It is but So far it looks good. Still a long way to go.

i think if Purdy misses any games, it won't be because he can't physically play, it'll be to get him some more reps with the 1s.

He's on track right now, per Brock. So if he does start throwing by june 2, that means he will be throwing 6-7 weeks before training camp starts. Idk where his arm will be by then but I imagine at least 70-75%. Factor that with training camp and all that. He will be 100% by week 1.

the only question in my mind is what % strength does his arm need to be before he can start throwing in camp with the team. That'll be huge regarding him getting ready for game 1, if he can.

He looked good in the Giants game. I'm optimistic he will be ready for game 1. If so, Trey will back him up. 49ers need to draft some OLinemen so that Brock doesn't get that arm hit again this year.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
That's all any fan should want. I will bet you dollars to doughnuts however, that if it is Trey playing, those who want him gone will just say he was handed the job due to draft status.

I'm sure there will be people like that. I certainly won't be one of them.

I think the reality is if we see him play games this year outside of injury, the improvement in his game will be readily evident.

If Trey is starting, I'll root for him. I'm not a *insert player* fan. I'm a San Francisco 49ers fan.

now who I do and don't think is a good football player is a different situation. I'm not a fan of Trey but you can bet your bottom dollar that I would want him to do good if he is playing.

hell I'll hope he has a good career if he goes to another team. I don't want the kid to fail, that's weird. I just don't think he will be a great qb here and I don't want the starting qb for the 49ers to not be great.

It is a little weird if you think Trey has a better shot at a good career elsewhere.

Well its how you're reading what I said - I'll rephrase, I don't think he will be a great qb in this league in general. I don't think he will be a top 5 guy, regardless of whichever team he is on. I think he will be a dak prescott type guy. Top 8-12 player who is more of a game manager than an elite playmaker. I think he needs about two seasons of play to come close to that kind of play too. I think he's too raw to try and start and hope to compete for a chip with him. So by the time he is in that dak type range, the team will have aged and all the expensive contracts will be at their peak. Then we will have to pay Lance some ludicrous amount that will cripple us.

no thanks.
i don't think he's capable.

i also think Purdy showed some special abilities. I'd much rather Rock with the guy who we KNOW we can compete for a chip with. Going into his second year (usually the largest jump in play happens), and a super super cheap contract over the next three seasons.

it's ideal as long as Brock heals right and continues his level of play or near it.

That last sentence being the rub.

It is but So far it looks good. Still a long way to go.

i think if Purdy misses any games, it won't be because he can't physically play, it'll be to get him some more reps with the 1s.

He's on track right now, per Brock. So if he does start throwing by june 2, that means he will be throwing 6-7 weeks before training camp starts. Idk where his arm will be by then but I imagine at least 70-75%. Factor that with training camp and all that. He will be 100% by week 1.

the only question in my mind is what % strength does his arm need to be before he can start throwing in camp with the team. That'll be huge regarding him getting ready for game 1, if he can.

He looked good in the Giants game. I'm optimistic he will be ready for game 1. If so, Trey will back him up. 49ers need to draft some OLinemen so that Brock doesn't get that arm hit again this year.

Yeah. I'm not concerned about it. If the early part of his recovery has gone well, then I don't see any reason why the rest won't because it's just strengthening at this point.

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. I'm not a professional at this. Lol but my understanding is that right now it's range of motion rehab (which is going really well) and then just strengthening the muscles.

i actually think he may finish ahead of schedule because of his youth and lack of "wear" on his UCL muscle. They said his was really healthy. He's also training with the best recovery doctor there is for this.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
That's all any fan should want. I will bet you dollars to doughnuts however, that if it is Trey playing, those who want him gone will just say he was handed the job due to draft status.

I'm sure there will be people like that. I certainly won't be one of them.

I think the reality is if we see him play games this year outside of injury, the improvement in his game will be readily evident.

If Trey is starting, I'll root for him. I'm not a *insert player* fan. I'm a San Francisco 49ers fan.

now who I do and don't think is a good football player is a different situation. I'm not a fan of Trey but you can bet your bottom dollar that I would want him to do good if he is playing.

hell I'll hope he has a good career if he goes to another team. I don't want the kid to fail, that's weird. I just don't think he will be a great qb here and I don't want the starting qb for the 49ers to not be great.

It is a little weird if you think Trey has a better shot at a good career elsewhere.

Well its how you're reading what I said - I'll rephrase, I don't think he will be a great qb in this league in general. I don't think he will be a top 5 guy, regardless of whichever team he is on. I think he will be a dak prescott type guy. Top 8-12 player who is more of a game manager than an elite playmaker. I think he needs about two seasons of play to come close to that kind of play too. I think he's too raw to try and start and hope to compete for a chip with him. So by the time he is in that dak type range, the team will have aged and all the expensive contracts will be at their peak. Then we will have to pay Lance some ludicrous amount that will cripple us.

no thanks.
i don't think he's capable.

i also think Purdy showed some special abilities. I'd much rather Rock with the guy who we KNOW we can compete for a chip with. Going into his second year (usually the largest jump in play happens), and a super super cheap contract over the next three seasons.

it's ideal as long as Brock heals right and continues his level of play or near it.

That last sentence being the rub.

It is but So far it looks good. Still a long way to go.

i think if Purdy misses any games, it won't be because he can't physically play, it'll be to get him some more reps with the 1s.

He's on track right now, per Brock. So if he does start throwing by june 2, that means he will be throwing 6-7 weeks before training camp starts. Idk where his arm will be by then but I imagine at least 70-75%. Factor that with training camp and all that. He will be 100% by week 1.

the only question in my mind is what % strength does his arm need to be before he can start throwing in camp with the team. That'll be huge regarding him getting ready for game 1, if he can.

He looked good in the Giants game. I'm optimistic he will be ready for game 1. If so, Trey will back him up. 49ers need to draft some OLinemen so that Brock doesn't get that arm hit again this year.

Yeah. I'm not concerned about it. If the early part of his recovery has gone well, then I don't see any reason why the rest won't because it's just strengthening at this point.

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. I'm not a professional at this. Lol but my understanding is that right now it's range of motion rehab (which is going really well) and then just strengthening the muscles.

i actually think he may finish ahead of schedule because of his youth and lack of "wear" on his UCL muscle. They said his was really healthy. He's also training with the best recovery doctor there is for this.

He definitely can be ahead of schedule, and if the Giants game is any indication of his progress - he definitely is on schedule.

I'm just hoping for all our QB's sake that the 49ers do invest more in the OLine this year, than even last year, considering Trent's age and the loss of McGlinchy.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
That's all any fan should want. I will bet you dollars to doughnuts however, that if it is Trey playing, those who want him gone will just say he was handed the job due to draft status.

I'm sure there will be people like that. I certainly won't be one of them.

I think the reality is if we see him play games this year outside of injury, the improvement in his game will be readily evident.

If Trey is starting, I'll root for him. I'm not a *insert player* fan. I'm a San Francisco 49ers fan.

now who I do and don't think is a good football player is a different situation. I'm not a fan of Trey but you can bet your bottom dollar that I would want him to do good if he is playing.

hell I'll hope he has a good career if he goes to another team. I don't want the kid to fail, that's weird. I just don't think he will be a great qb here and I don't want the starting qb for the 49ers to not be great.

It is a little weird if you think Trey has a better shot at a good career elsewhere.

Well its how you're reading what I said - I'll rephrase, I don't think he will be a great qb in this league in general. I don't think he will be a top 5 guy, regardless of whichever team he is on. I think he will be a dak prescott type guy. Top 8-12 player who is more of a game manager than an elite playmaker. I think he needs about two seasons of play to come close to that kind of play too. I think he's too raw to try and start and hope to compete for a chip with him. So by the time he is in that dak type range, the team will have aged and all the expensive contracts will be at their peak. Then we will have to pay Lance some ludicrous amount that will cripple us.

no thanks.
i don't think he's capable.

i also think Purdy showed some special abilities. I'd much rather Rock with the guy who we KNOW we can compete for a chip with. Going into his second year (usually the largest jump in play happens), and a super super cheap contract over the next three seasons.

it's ideal as long as Brock heals right and continues his level of play or near it.

That last sentence being the rub.

It is but So far it looks good. Still a long way to go.

i think if Purdy misses any games, it won't be because he can't physically play, it'll be to get him some more reps with the 1s.

He's on track right now, per Brock. So if he does start throwing by june 2, that means he will be throwing 6-7 weeks before training camp starts. Idk where his arm will be by then but I imagine at least 70-75%. Factor that with training camp and all that. He will be 100% by week 1.

the only question in my mind is what % strength does his arm need to be before he can start throwing in camp with the team. That'll be huge regarding him getting ready for game 1, if he can.

He looked good in the Giants game. I'm optimistic he will be ready for game 1. If so, Trey will back him up. 49ers need to draft some OLinemen so that Brock doesn't get that arm hit again this year.

Yeah. I'm not concerned about it. If the early part of his recovery has gone well, then I don't see any reason why the rest won't because it's just strengthening at this point.

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. I'm not a professional at this. Lol but my understanding is that right now it's range of motion rehab (which is going really well) and then just strengthening the muscles.

i actually think he may finish ahead of schedule because of his youth and lack of "wear" on his UCL muscle. They said his was really healthy. He's also training with the best recovery doctor there is for this.

He definitely can be ahead of schedule, and if the Giants game is any indication of his progress - he definitely is on schedule.

I'm just hoping for all our QB's sake that the 49ers do invest more in the OLine this year, than even last year, considering Trent's age and the loss of McGlinchy.

Yeah, I'd really like to see us improve the right side of the line. I like Burford and hope he has a nice jump this year. I'm worried about the RT. Definitely need to figure that spot out and hope for more than "serviceable".

id also like to see us upgrade the TE position. Outside of Kittle - our players aren't very good in the TE room. It looks like we are targeting one this draft though.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
49ers fans are just passionate when it comes to 49ers QBs.

Especially since we haven't had a real franchise QB since Steve Young. And the search for one still continues.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
and? You'd say the same s**t if it was Lance out there….and don't say you wouldn't!

its 170 passing attempts. That is nothing in the grand scheme of what a QB is or isn't. Crowning someone or saying they blow over that time span is foolish.

you ALL thought Jimmy was the next Tom Brady after the SAME sample size. Why don't you learn from your past mistakes? Some people have and some people want to see more before going there. Smh

He wasn't Tom Brady, but in that small sample we saw a winner and he was.

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
He wasn't Tom Brady, but in that small sample we saw a winner and he was.

Until they got to the SB.

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:
He wasn't Tom Brady, but in that small sample we saw a winner and he was.

Until they got to the SB.

When he got his bell rung, The point was, those who saw a good player in JG from the small sample size weren't deluded. The same holds for BP.

Although I do agree that TL might be judged on a different scale because he has so little football experience. He may not have the opportunity here to develop to his potential, unfortunately.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
That's all any fan should want. I will bet you dollars to doughnuts however, that if it is Trey playing, those who want him gone will just say he was handed the job due to draft status.

I'm sure there will be people like that. I certainly won't be one of them.

I think the reality is if we see him play games this year outside of injury, the improvement in his game will be readily evident.

If Trey is starting, I'll root for him. I'm not a *insert player* fan. I'm a San Francisco 49ers fan.

now who I do and don't think is a good football player is a different situation. I'm not a fan of Trey but you can bet your bottom dollar that I would want him to do good if he is playing.

hell I'll hope he has a good career if he goes to another team. I don't want the kid to fail, that's weird. I just don't think he will be a great qb here and I don't want the starting qb for the 49ers to not be great.

It is a little weird if you think Trey has a better shot at a good career elsewhere.

Well its how you're reading what I said - I'll rephrase, I don't think he will be a great qb in this league in general. I don't think he will be a top 5 guy, regardless of whichever team he is on. I think he will be a dak prescott type guy. Top 8-12 player who is more of a game manager than an elite playmaker. I think he needs about two seasons of play to come close to that kind of play too. I think he's too raw to try and start and hope to compete for a chip with him. So by the time he is in that dak type range, the team will have aged and all the expensive contracts will be at their peak. Then we will have to pay Lance some ludicrous amount that will cripple us.

no thanks.
i don't think he's capable.

i also think Purdy showed some special abilities. I'd much rather Rock with the guy who we KNOW we can compete for a chip with. Going into his second year (usually the largest jump in play happens), and a super super cheap contract over the next three seasons.

it's ideal as long as Brock heals right and continues his level of play or near it.

That last sentence being the rub.

It is but So far it looks good. Still a long way to go.

i think if Purdy misses any games, it won't be because he can't physically play, it'll be to get him some more reps with the 1s.

He's on track right now, per Brock. So if he does start throwing by june 2, that means he will be throwing 6-7 weeks before training camp starts. Idk where his arm will be by then but I imagine at least 70-75%. Factor that with training camp and all that. He will be 100% by week 1.

the only question in my mind is what % strength does his arm need to be before he can start throwing in camp with the team. That'll be huge regarding him getting ready for game 1, if he can.

He looked good in the Giants game. I'm optimistic he will be ready for game 1. If so, Trey will back him up. 49ers need to draft some OLinemen so that Brock doesn't get that arm hit again this year.

Yeah. I'm not concerned about it. If the early part of his recovery has gone well, then I don't see any reason why the rest won't because it's just strengthening at this point.

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. I'm not a professional at this. Lol but my understanding is that right now it's range of motion rehab (which is going really well) and then just strengthening the muscles.

i actually think he may finish ahead of schedule because of his youth and lack of "wear" on his UCL muscle. They said his was really healthy. He's also training with the best recovery doctor there is for this.

He definitely can be ahead of schedule, and if the Giants game is any indication of his progress - he definitely is on schedule.

I'm just hoping for all our QB's sake that the 49ers do invest more in the OLine this year, than even last year, considering Trent's age and the loss of McGlinchy.

Yeah, I'd really like to see us improve the right side of the line. I like Burford and hope he has a nice jump this year. I'm worried about the RT. Definitely need to figure that spot out and hope for more than "serviceable".

id also like to see us upgrade the TE position. Outside of Kittle - our players aren't very good in the TE room. It looks like we are targeting one this draft though.

I hope we target at least two. One as a potential right side starter and one as a potential left side starter down the road, when Trent Williams calls it quits. I'm betting if 49ers win or get to a Super Bowl this year, Trent's going to retire. I know they probably have at least one pick (or more) devoted to defensive line, but I hope out of the three 3rd rounders - two go to OLine and the third maybe DLine.

50/50 shot but I'm betting Brock will be ahead of schedule and one reason is that sports science and sports nutrition is always advancing. I'm hoping that will enable Brock to heal and recover faster than others in the past. We shall see.

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
and? You'd say the same s**t if it was Lance out there….and don't say you wouldn't!

its 170 passing attempts. That is nothing in the grand scheme of what a QB is or isn't. Crowning someone or saying they blow over that time span is foolish.

you ALL thought Jimmy was the next Tom Brady after the SAME sample size. Why don't you learn from your past mistakes? Some people have and some people want to see more before going there. Smh

He wasn't Tom Brady, but in that small sample we saw a winner and he was.

Purdy's rookie stats were unreal, on top of that his play in the playoffs - as a **rookie** - was unreal. I think to me, he has great potential to be a generational talent. I thought Kaepernick was also a generational talent but you can't measure heart, professionalism and dedication. Purdy's got all that and more. My only question about Purdy is durability. If I was Kyle - I will assume he's Jimmy Glass untill he proves he can play a whole season. So that's why the Offensive Line is such an important focus for him right now. Losing 3 QBs in a season is also rare, and you don't want that to happen again this year. This draft is going to matter a lot for possibly years if Kyle gets another Trent Williams 2.0.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by WestCoastForever:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
and? You'd say the same s**t if it was Lance out there….and don't say you wouldn't!

its 170 passing attempts. That is nothing in the grand scheme of what a QB is or isn't. Crowning someone or saying they blow over that time span is foolish.

you ALL thought Jimmy was the next Tom Brady after the SAME sample size. Why don't you learn from your past mistakes? Some people have and some people want to see more before going there. Smh

He wasn't Tom Brady, but in that small sample we saw a winner and he was.

Purdy's rookie stats were unreal, on top of that his play in the playoffs - as a **rookie** - was unreal. I think to me, he has great potential to be a generational talent. I thought Kaepernick was also a generational talent but you can't measure heart, professionalism and dedication. Purdy's got all that and more. My only question about Purdy is durability. If I was Kyle - I will assume he's Jimmy Glass untill he proves he can play a whole season. So that's why the Offensive Line is such an important focus for him right now. Losing 3 QBs in a season is also rare, and you don't want that to happen again this year. This draft is going to matter a lot for possibly years if Kyle gets another Trent Williams 2.0.

I can understand your concern for his durability but that's a concern for nearly every QB. There are only a handful that are big and strong enough to possibly have the durability that is needed and even those big guys aren't bigger and stronger than the linemen that are tackling them.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
That's all any fan should want. I will bet you dollars to doughnuts however, that if it is Trey playing, those who want him gone will just say he was handed the job due to draft status.

I'm sure there will be people like that. I certainly won't be one of them.

I think the reality is if we see him play games this year outside of injury, the improvement in his game will be readily evident.

If Trey is starting, I'll root for him. I'm not a *insert player* fan. I'm a San Francisco 49ers fan.

now who I do and don't think is a good football player is a different situation. I'm not a fan of Trey but you can bet your bottom dollar that I would want him to do good if he is playing.

hell I'll hope he has a good career if he goes to another team. I don't want the kid to fail, that's weird. I just don't think he will be a great qb here and I don't want the starting qb for the 49ers to not be great.

It is a little weird if you think Trey has a better shot at a good career elsewhere.

Well its how you're reading what I said - I'll rephrase, I don't think he will be a great qb in this league in general. I don't think he will be a top 5 guy, regardless of whichever team he is on. I think he will be a dak prescott type guy. Top 8-12 player who is more of a game manager than an elite playmaker. I think he needs about two seasons of play to come close to that kind of play too. I think he's too raw to try and start and hope to compete for a chip with him. So by the time he is in that dak type range, the team will have aged and all the expensive contracts will be at their peak. Then we will have to pay Lance some ludicrous amount that will cripple us.

no thanks.
i don't think he's capable.

i also think Purdy showed some special abilities. I'd much rather Rock with the guy who we KNOW we can compete for a chip with. Going into his second year (usually the largest jump in play happens), and a super super cheap contract over the next three seasons.

it's ideal as long as Brock heals right and continues his level of play or near it.

That last sentence being the rub.

It is but So far it looks good. Still a long way to go.

i think if Purdy misses any games, it won't be because he can't physically play, it'll be to get him some more reps with the 1s.

He's on track right now, per Brock. So if he does start throwing by june 2, that means he will be throwing 6-7 weeks before training camp starts. Idk where his arm will be by then but I imagine at least 70-75%. Factor that with training camp and all that. He will be 100% by week 1.

the only question in my mind is what % strength does his arm need to be before he can start throwing in camp with the team. That'll be huge regarding him getting ready for game 1, if he can.

He looked good in the Giants game. I'm optimistic he will be ready for game 1. If so, Trey will back him up. 49ers need to draft some OLinemen so that Brock doesn't get that arm hit again this year.

Yeah. I'm not concerned about it. If the early part of his recovery has gone well, then I don't see any reason why the rest won't because it's just strengthening at this point.

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. I'm not a professional at this. Lol but my understanding is that right now it's range of motion rehab (which is going really well) and then just strengthening the muscles.

i actually think he may finish ahead of schedule because of his youth and lack of "wear" on his UCL muscle. They said his was really healthy. He's also training with the best recovery doctor there is for this.

He definitely can be ahead of schedule, and if the Giants game is any indication of his progress - he definitely is on schedule.

I'm just hoping for all our QB's sake that the 49ers do invest more in the OLine this year, than even last year, considering Trent's age and the loss of McGlinchy.

Yeah, I'd really like to see us improve the right side of the line. I like Burford and hope he has a nice jump this year. I'm worried about the RT. Definitely need to figure that spot out and hope for more than "serviceable".

id also like to see us upgrade the TE position. Outside of Kittle - our players aren't very good in the TE room. It looks like we are targeting one this draft though.

I hope we target at least two. One as a potential right side starter and one as a potential left side starter down the road, when Trent Williams calls it quits. I'm betting if 49ers win or get to a Super Bowl this year, Trent's going to retire. I know they probably have at least one pick (or more) devoted to defensive line, but I hope out of the three 3rd rounders - two go to OLine and the third maybe DLine.

50/50 shot but I'm betting Brock will be ahead of schedule and one reason is that sports science and sports nutrition is always advancing. I'm hoping that will enable Brock to heal and recover faster than others in the past. We shall see.

I would hate if he retired. I could be wrong but it would hurt us pretty bad cap wise if he does.