QB Brock Purdy Thread

Lol at this guy getting mad because his QBs numbers start looking too good when you apply common sense to them. Trey fans are the worst

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Please, it's out there, the "we're not sold on him because of talent around him", "The reason he won was because of the talent around him" crowd is out there and don't act all innocent either. lol smh

and? You'd say the same s**t if it was Lance out there….and don't say you wouldn't!

its 170 passing attempts. That is nothing in the grand scheme of what a QB is or isn't. Crowning someone or saying they blow over that time span is foolish.

you ALL thought Jimmy was the next Tom Brady after the SAME sample size. Why don't you learn from your past mistakes? Some people have and some people want to see more before going there. Smh

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Yes and you felt the need to cite it even though we all (Kyle included) know Brock won the Dolphins game. Like Kyle said, "8-0"

His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

Why did you feel the need to correct him? Do you not count the Dolphins game for Brock?

It doesn't matter if I feel it counts or not. If a ball bounces off the hands of a receiver and gets intercepted, it doesn't matter if I think its fair to count that against the QB or not, it still goes down as an interception in the stats. For some reason, people feel the need to embellish Purdy's stats, but they're already impressive enough for a 7th round rookie QB. There's no need to start arbitrarily changing them.

No people just understand that he won us the Dolphins game and don't feel the need to take that away from him because of his technical record

And people can understand when a QB isn't at fault for an interception. It doesn't mean we just decide to list their TD/Int ratio with 1 fewer interception.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Yes and you felt the need to cite it even though we all (Kyle included) know Brock won the Dolphins game. Like Kyle said, "8-0"

His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

Why did you feel the need to correct him? Do you not count the Dolphins game for Brock?

It doesn't matter if I feel it counts or not. If a ball bounces off the hands of a receiver and gets intercepted, it doesn't matter if I think its fair to count that against the QB or not, it still goes down as an interception in the stats. For some reason, people feel the need to embellish Purdy's stats, but they're already impressive enough for a 7th round rookie QB. There's no need to start arbitrarily changing them.

No people just understand that he won us the Dolphins game and don't feel the need to take that away from him because of his technical record

And people can understand when a QB isn't at fault for an interception. It doesn't mean we just decide to list their TD/Int ratio with 1 fewer interception.

We aren't listing anything as anything. We're just having a discussion, and it's not a crime to use the common sense that Kyle did when talking about Brock's record. The only reason to pull out his technical record in this situation is to diminish what Brock did. Sorry but Kyle isn't falling for it either, "8-0"

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Please, it's out there, the "we're not sold on him because of talent around him", "The reason he won was because of the talent around him" crowd is out there and don't act all innocent either. lol smh

and? You'd say the same s**t if it was Lance out there….and don't say you wouldn't!

its 170 passing attempts. That is nothing in the grand scheme of what a QB is or isn't. Crowning someone or saying they blow over that time span is foolish.

you ALL thought Jimmy was the next Tom Brady after the SAME sample size. Why don't you learn from your past mistakes? Some people have and some people want to see more before going there. Smh

I'll admit, I thought Jimmy was going to be great. I was wrong. And?

they're not apples to apples situations though and doesn't mean that what Brock did wasn't incredible, especially for a rookie. It's fine that you have your doubts about Brock's potential. Same way I have my doubts about treys potential.

i just don't understand how you're so confident in Lance, without any proof he can be great, but doubt Purdy after he did some great things?

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Yes and you felt the need to cite it even though we all (Kyle included) know Brock won the Dolphins game. Like Kyle said, "8-0"

His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

Why did you feel the need to correct him? Do you not count the Dolphins game for Brock?

It doesn't matter if I feel it counts or not. If a ball bounces off the hands of a receiver and gets intercepted, it doesn't matter if I think its fair to count that against the QB or not, it still goes down as an interception in the stats. For some reason, people feel the need to embellish Purdy's stats, but they're already impressive enough for a 7th round rookie QB. There's no need to start arbitrarily changing them.

No people just understand that he won us the Dolphins game and don't feel the need to take that away from him because of his technical record

And people can understand when a QB isn't at fault for an interception. It doesn't mean we just decide to list their TD/Int ratio with 1 fewer interception.

We aren't listing anything as anything. We're just having a discussion, and it's not a crime to use the common sense that Kyle did when talking about Brock's record. The only reason to pull out his technical record in this situation is to diminish what Brock did. Sorry but Kyle isn't falling for it either, "8-0"

When you have a small sample size, it's disingenuous to list games that a player barely participated in.

That's like giving Lance credit for the Seahawks game when he had 3 pass attempts? It's like not giving Purdy credit for the dolphins game when he played like 90% of the game. It's like claiming Purdy couldn't win the NFCC because he started it but literally couldn't throw.

at least when I talk about Lances performances I only talk about the games he played almost all or an overwhelming majority, prepped for, and finished.

Only reason you're okay with Lance getting credit for the Seahawks game is because we finished with a W.

yes, the way the technical stat works is if the player started
The game but we all know that's nonsense. Only time you do that is when you're trying to diminish someone's accomplishment.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Please, it's out there, the "we're not sold on him because of talent around him", "The reason he won was because of the talent around him" crowd is out there and don't act all innocent either. lol smh

and? You'd say the same s**t if it was Lance out there….and don't say you wouldn't!

its 170 passing attempts. That is nothing in the grand scheme of what a QB is or isn't. Crowning someone or saying they blow over that time span is foolish.

you ALL thought Jimmy was the next Tom Brady after the SAME sample size. Why don't you learn from your past mistakes? Some people have and some people want to see more before going there. Smh

I'll admit, I thought Jimmy was going to be great. I was wrong. And?

they're not apples to apples situations though and doesn't mean that what Brock did wasn't incredible, especially for a rookie. It's fine that you have your doubts about Brock's potential. Same way I have my doubts about treys potential.

i just don't understand how you're so confident in Lance, without any proof he can be great, but doubt Purdy after he did some great things?

Me too. I thought we had a top 5 QB for the next 10 years, but like you said, who cares?

They are just using that as an excuse to keep holding out for Trey. We all got burned by Jimmy, but only Trey fans care about pumping the breaks on Brock and getting pissed at anyone enjoying the ride

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Yes and you felt the need to cite it even though we all (Kyle included) know Brock won the Dolphins game. Like Kyle said, "8-0"

His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

Why did you feel the need to correct him? Do you not count the Dolphins game for Brock?

It doesn't matter if I feel it counts or not. If a ball bounces off the hands of a receiver and gets intercepted, it doesn't matter if I think its fair to count that against the QB or not, it still goes down as an interception in the stats. For some reason, people feel the need to embellish Purdy's stats, but they're already impressive enough for a 7th round rookie QB. There's no need to start arbitrarily changing them.

No people just understand that he won us the Dolphins game and don't feel the need to take that away from him because of his technical record

And people can understand when a QB isn't at fault for an interception. It doesn't mean we just decide to list their TD/Int ratio with 1 fewer interception.

We aren't listing anything as anything. We're just having a discussion, and it's not a crime to use the common sense that Kyle did when talking about Brock's record. The only reason to pull out his technical record in this situation is to diminish what Brock did. Sorry but Kyle isn't falling for it either, "8-0"

Is Kyle the official stat keeper for the NFL? Why do you keep bringing him into this? Like most coaches do, he's just pumping up his players. As we've learned from other threads, whenever a coach says something nice about a player, they're trying to increase their trade value. Could Kyle be saying that to try to increase Brock's trade value?

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Yes and you felt the need to cite it even though we all (Kyle included) know Brock won the Dolphins game. Like Kyle said, "8-0"

His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

Why did you feel the need to correct him? Do you not count the Dolphins game for Brock?

It doesn't matter if I feel it counts or not. If a ball bounces off the hands of a receiver and gets intercepted, it doesn't matter if I think its fair to count that against the QB or not, it still goes down as an interception in the stats. For some reason, people feel the need to embellish Purdy's stats, but they're already impressive enough for a 7th round rookie QB. There's no need to start arbitrarily changing them.

No people just understand that he won us the Dolphins game and don't feel the need to take that away from him because of his technical record

And people can understand when a QB isn't at fault for an interception. It doesn't mean we just decide to list their TD/Int ratio with 1 fewer interception.

We aren't listing anything as anything. We're just having a discussion, and it's not a crime to use the common sense that Kyle did when talking about Brock's record. The only reason to pull out his technical record in this situation is to diminish what Brock did. Sorry but Kyle isn't falling for it either, "8-0"

Is Kyle the official stat keeper for the NFL? Why do you keep bringing him into this? Like most coaches do, he's just pumping up his players. As we've learned from other threads, whenever a coach says something nice about a player, they're trying to increase their trade value. Could Kyle be saying that to try to increase Brock's trade value?

We have brains and watched the games so there's really no reason for us to use the official stats when they don't reflect reality. Kyle understands

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Please, it's out there, the "we're not sold on him because of talent around him", "The reason he won was because of the talent around him" crowd is out there and don't act all innocent either. lol smh

and? You'd say the same s**t if it was Lance out there….and don't say you wouldn't!

its 170 passing attempts. That is nothing in the grand scheme of what a QB is or isn't. Crowning someone or saying they blow over that time span is foolish.

you ALL thought Jimmy was the next Tom Brady after the SAME sample size. Why don't you learn from your past mistakes? Some people have and some people want to see more before going there. Smh

I'll admit, I thought Jimmy was going to be great. I was wrong. And?

they're not apples to apples situations though and doesn't mean that what Brock did wasn't incredible, especially for a rookie. It's fine that you have your doubts about Brock's potential. Same way I have my doubts about treys potential.

i just don't understand how you're so confident in Lance, without any proof he can be great, but doubt Purdy after he did some great things?

Me too. I thought we had a top 5 QB for the next 10 years, but like you said, who cares?

They are just using that as an excuse to keep holding out for Trey. We all got burned by Jimmy, but only Trey fans care about pumping the breaks on Brock and getting pissed at anyone enjoying the ride

Doesn't change the fact Jimmy is a top 8-12 qb, wasn't like he was a scrub and won a lot of games. I think Kyle and Jimmy just never saw the game the same.

that's a big reason I'm so optimistic about Brock. Kyle and him are both football junkies, and so far, see the game the same way. Like how Kyle said Brock can already start to know what the next play kyle will call.

brock knew a play that wasn't in the gameplan and hadn't been called in 2 years. That's stuff I think Jimmy lacked that frustrated Kyle and ultimately made him want to move on.

i think Kyle really liked treys physical skill set and personality - which made him think he can mold Trey exactly how he wants, which is possible, but a big risk. I think Kyle ultimately underestimated how raw Lance was and then it further got worse with lances unfortunate injuries.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is Kyle the official stat keeper for the NFL? Why do you keep bringing him into this? Like most coaches do, he's just pumping up his players. As we've learned from other threads, whenever a coach says something nice about a player, they're trying to increase their trade value. Could Kyle be saying that to try to increase Brock's trade value?

Lmao. You really can't help it can you?

Hopefully someday you find a position you can successfully support with an argument.

Let me see if we can compare relevant statistics between the Other World Patrick Mahomes in his 6th season to that raw rookie Brock Purdy in his rookie year and first starting opportunity. Mahomes numbers followed by Brocks. If totals, feel free to adjust 2 to 1 for Brock's 8 games.

Completion percentage 67.1 67.1
Yards/attempt 8.1 8.1
Interceptions 12 4
Rating 105.2 107.3
Sacks 26 11
Fumbles 5 0

Originally posted by tankle104:
I'll admit, I thought Jimmy was going to be great. I was wrong. And?

they're not apples to apples situations though and doesn't mean that what Brock did wasn't incredible, especially for a rookie. It's fine that you have your doubts about Brock's potential. Same way I have my doubts about treys potential.

i just don't understand how you're so confident in Lance, without any proof he can be great, but doubt Purdy after he did some great things?

Like I said the situation Jimmy got tossed into was MUCH worse and saying anything other than that is silly. We all got sold snake oil. I'm not doing that s**t again until I see it over a full season. Dude was doing the same stuff Brock was and a much much much worse team.

it's not about confidence. It's about giving him a chance to fail before proclaiming he's a failure. And save me the whole we can't develop a QB because we're trying to win a Super Bowl crap. We're doing the same s**t with Brock. He's gonna have his ups and downs. A lot of those dropped INTS and PBUs could very well become INTS next time (same as Jimmy) and then what? Ya'll expect him to do with exactly what he did for a couple games going forward….that's his baseline anything less is a failure, at least that how it's been for a lot fans in here for all our players.

as far as Lance goes, whether you want to admit it or not, he's talented. He's hard working. He's smart on many different levels. He was a top 3 pick for a reason. When he did play he didn't look lost, at least for a kid that hasn't played meaningful football since 2019. He just lacks reps. He has a very good chance at being the starter WK1. After that who knows what will happen. That's the life of a 49ers QB for the past two decades.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Like I said the situation Jimmy got tossed into was MUCH worse and saying anything other than that is silly. We all got sold snake oil. I'm not doing that s**t again until I see it over a full season. Dude was doing the same stuff Brock was and a much much much worse team.

it's not about confidence. It's about giving him a chance to fail before proclaiming he's a failure. And save me the whole we can't develop a QB because we're trying to win a Super Bowl crap. We're doing the same s**t with Brock. He's gonna have his ups and downs. A lot of those dropped INTS and PBUs could very well become INTS next time (same as Jimmy) and then what? Ya'll expect him to do with exactly what he did for a couple games going forward….that's his baseline anything less is a failure, at least that how it's been for a lot fans in here for all our players.

as far as Lance goes, whether you want to admit it or not, he's talented. He's hard working. He's smart on many different levels. He was a top 3 pick for a reason. When he did play he didn't look lost, at least for a kid that hasn't played meaningful football since 2019. He just lacks reps. He has a very good chance at being the starter WK1. After that who knows what will happen. That's the life of a 49ers QB for the past two decades.

Rest easy in that we're not in position to have to commit to Brock long term for a couple of years at least.

All that's happening at this point is that he's the presumed starter going forward, based on his play from last season.

Where you really go off the rails, as many of the emotional Trey fans do, is assuming that if he doesn't work out that makes Trey the default option in his place. The team is showing us that's not going to necessarily be the case.

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Let me see if we can compare relevant statistics between the Other World Patrick Mahomes in his 6th season to that raw rookie Brock Purdy in his rookie year and first starting opportunity. Mahomes numbers followed by Brocks. If totals, feel free to adjust 2 to 1 for Brock's 8 games.

Completion percentage 67.1 67.1
Yards/attempt 8.1 8.1
Interceptions 12 4
Rating 105.2 107.3
Sacks 26 11
Fumbles 5 0

How do we rank plays like this…Just curious?



Also Mahomes been doing that for years!

can you do a side by side of Mahomes/Nick Foles/Brock over his last 6 games when they won the Super Bowl?