QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

It's disingenuous, clearly.

It doesn't matter though because 7-1 with a loss credited in the NFC championship game is still spectacular. And that's completely avoiding how great the offense was with him at QB across those games.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

It's disingenuous, clearly.

It doesn't matter though because 7-1 with a loss credited in the NFC championship game is still spectacular. And that's completely avoiding how great the offense was with him at QB across those games.

You wanna diminish someone it should be Trey Lance. Lance got the win vs Seattle that Jimmy actually won. Lol but same could be said about Jimmy vs Miami where Purdy finished and won. lol

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

It's disingenuous, clearly.

It doesn't matter though because 7-1 with a loss credited in the NFC championship game is still spectacular. And that's completely avoiding how great the offense was with him at QB across those games.

You wanna diminish someone it should be Trey Lance. Lance got the win vs Seattle that Jimmy actually won. Lol but same could be said about Jimmy vs Miami where Purdy finished and won. lol

That's the problem for me, coming from a Trey fan its always disingenuous. How are you going to talk Brocks play down but be hyped about Trey?

Talk about how Brock might fall off, that's cool, but stop trying to diminish what he did. It's pathetic and will not make Trey a good QB

Originally posted by Kolohe:
You wanna diminish someone it should be Trey Lance. Lance got the win vs Seattle that Jimmy actually won. Lol but same could be said about Jimmy vs Miami where Purdy finished and won. lol

It's just a stat with a technical definition.

Anybody evaluating these guys' play are going to look at what they actually did. Jimmy would get credit for his play in the Hawks game, Purdy would get credit for his play in the Phins game, Trey's play in 2nd half of the Seattle game last year would count.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
That's the problem for me, coming from a Trey fan its always disingenuous. How are you going to talk Brocks play down but be hyped about Trey?

Talk about how Brock might fall off, that's cool, but stop trying to diminish what he did. It's pathetic and will not make Trey a good QB

It would just be helpful if arguments for either QB were made independently of each other. You can't get through these threads without accusations of bias towards a player or people dismissing arguments because of an assigned bias that's probably not accurate in the vast majority of cases.

Just make an argument and support it (not directing this at you, Chuck).

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Yes and you felt the need to cite it even though we all (Kyle included) know Brock won the Dolphins game. Like Kyle said, "8-0"

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Yes and you felt the need to cite it even though we all (Kyle included) know Brock won the Dolphins game. Like Kyle said, "8-0"

His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Yes and you felt the need to cite it even though we all (Kyle included) know Brock won the Dolphins game. Like Kyle said, "8-0"

His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

Why did you feel the need to correct him? Do you not count the Dolphins game for Brock?

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Yes and you felt the need to cite it even though we all (Kyle included) know Brock won the Dolphins game. Like Kyle said, "8-0"

His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

I agree with Kyle, he's 8-0. Anything else is obviously trolling.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

What you're doing by citing it is simply making it so that people qualify their comments with more detail when it really shouldn't be necessary.

Instead of saying the team never lost a game with Brock under center, or they're 8-0 with Brock, it can be simply said the team didn't lose a game where Brock played at least a half or the team didn't lose a game with Brock healthy and taking the majority of snaps. This is the actual point people are making and it's easily understood. Citing the technical record doesn't change that and is meaningless in this context.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

What you're doing by citing it is simply making it so that people qualify their comments with more detail when it really shouldn't be necessary.

Instead of saying the team never lost a game with Brock under center, or they're 8-0 with Brock, it can be simply said the team didn't lose a game where Brock played at least a half or the team didn't lose a game with Brock healthy and taking the majority of snaps. This is the actual point people are making and it's easily understood. Citing the technical record doesn't change that and is meaningless in this context.

It is actually not meaningless in this context. It's meaning is to diminish Brock

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It is actually not meaningless in this context. It's meaning is to diminish Brock

I'm not talking about the intent. I think that is pretty clear. You're talking to a guy who wanted to put in Josh Johnson over Brock when the offense struggled early against Washington.

It's meaningless because all it takes is a few additional words to put it to bed. It's not actually diminishing to Brock, even if intended, because of the context.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Yes and you felt the need to cite it even though we all (Kyle included) know Brock won the Dolphins game. Like Kyle said, "8-0"

His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

Why did you feel the need to correct him? Do you not count the Dolphins game for Brock?

It doesn't matter if I feel it counts or not. If a ball bounces off the hands of a receiver and gets intercepted, it doesn't matter if I think its fair to count that against the QB or not, it still goes down as an interception in the stats. For some reason, people feel the need to embellish Purdy's stats, but they're already impressive enough for a 7th round rookie QB. There's no need to start arbitrarily changing them.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Who was diminishing him? Saying that we should pump the breaks due to the small sample size is not diminishing him. Pointing out that he is 7-1 in starts is not diminishing him.

When somebody counts a game that he clearly earned the win for us, and you go out of your way to strip him of that win over technicalities, yes you are trying to diminish him

No, that's just his record as a starting QB.

Yes and you felt the need to cite it even though we all (Kyle included) know Brock won the Dolphins game. Like Kyle said, "8-0"

His starting record is 7-1. I was only correcting a mistake someone else posted. We can argue all we want about which stats are fair or not, but we shouldn't start arbitrarily deciding what does or doesn't count.

Why did you feel the need to correct him? Do you not count the Dolphins game for Brock?

It doesn't matter if I feel it counts or not. If a ball bounces off the hands of a receiver and gets intercepted, it doesn't matter if I think its fair to count that against the QB or not, it still goes down as an interception in the stats. For some reason, people feel the need to embellish Purdy's stats, but they're already impressive enough for a 7th round rookie QB. There's no need to start arbitrarily changing them.

No people just understand that he won us the Dolphins game and don't feel the need to take that away from him because of his technical record