QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Brock said things are going as planned so far so I see his "not sure" comment as him taking it one day at a time and not getting ahead of himself. Until I hear there's a setback and things aren't going as planned, I think he'll be ready for the start of the season

You are the undefeated world champion of reading exactly what you want to out of any given comment.

Brock understands there's still a lot of work to be done and nothing is guaranteed. He said everything is going as planned so far which is all that matters because I'm assuming the plan is not to miss the season

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Brock said things are going as planned so far so I see his "not sure" comment as him taking it one day at a time and not getting ahead of himself. Until I hear there's a setback and things aren't going as planned, I think he'll be ready for the start of the season

You are the undefeated world champion of reading exactly what you want to out of any given comment.

Only way I see him not active this yr is if there's some massive setback…that said, I tried telling people the extent of this injury/recovery. There's no hey he will be ready in this date with ligament recovery. that s**t takes a while to heal and be strong enough to handle taking hits and throwing a football a ton. It's just the truth of the injury.

also I'll add the whole "his arm could be stronger after" thing is false. He didn't get TJ where it's a flat out reconstruction of the UCL. It's just an internal brace that's holding everything together while the ligament heals. There is no "ligamentization process"

So people saying we need to move Lance for a bag of chips…one that's just dumb regardless. Two we need QBs and as much as it pains people to think about he might actually end up being good with more playing time. The reason Sam was brought in is because of Brock's injury and the question marks that could with it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Brock said things are going as planned so far so I see his "not sure" comment as him taking it one day at a time and not getting ahead of himself. Until I hear there's a setback and things aren't going as planned, I think he'll be ready for the start of the season

You are the undefeated world champion of reading exactly what you want to out of any given comment.

Only way I see him not active this yr is if there's some massive setback…that said, I tried telling people the extent of this injury/recovery. There's no hey he will be ready in this date with ligament recovery. that s**t takes a while to heal and be strong enough to handle taking hits and throwing a football a ton. It's just the truth of the injury.

also I'll add the whole "his arm could be stronger after" thing is false. He didn't get TJ where it's a flat out reconstruction of the UCL. It's just an internal brace that's holding everything together while the ligament heals. There is no "ligamentization process"

So people saying we need to move Lance for a bag of chips…one that's just dumb regardless. Two we need QBs and as much as it pains people to think about he might actually end up being good with more playing time. The reason Sam was brought in is because of Brock's injury and the question marks that could with it.

Every injury and subsequent surgery has the potential for complications. Rehab can take longer than expected. It could be re-injured requiring another surgery. Cleanup surgery for scar tissue is common. Until he's back throwing and he says he feels 100% then he's still a question mark. No way they will trade any of the 3 guys until they see how well Brock recovers and how much Trey has progressed.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Brock said things are going as planned so far so I see his "not sure" comment as him taking it one day at a time and not getting ahead of himself. Until I hear there's a setback and things aren't going as planned, I think he'll be ready for the start of the season

You are the undefeated world champion of reading exactly what you want to out of any given comment.

Only way I see him not active this yr is if there's some massive setback…that said, I tried telling people the extent of this injury/recovery. There's no hey he will be ready in this date with ligament recovery. that s**t takes a while to heal and be strong enough to handle taking hits and throwing a football a ton. It's just the truth of the injury.

also I'll add the whole "his arm could be stronger after" thing is false. He didn't get TJ where it's a flat out reconstruction of the UCL. It's just an internal brace that's holding everything together while the ligament heals. There is no "ligamentization process"

So people saying we need to move Lance for a bag of chips…one that's just dumb regardless. Two we need QBs and as much as it pains people to think about he might actually end up being good with more playing time. The reason Sam was brought in is because of Brock's injury and the question marks that could with it.

It is true that we don't have any reliable data of these past surgeries/rehab for football but I don't think he will miss the season, unless something ridiculous happens.

i think he'll be back week 1, but I know that I'm being optimistic. There is a good chance he won't be ready for the first 4 weeks or so of the season.

the arm strength thing is even something Purdy said, so that's not just us being optimistic. He said it's possible his arm is stronger after the rehab. It may not be but if he is saying it, I believe it.

Darnold May of been brought in because Purdy possibly wouldn't be ready week 1, I'm sure that was a factor, doesn't explain them saying he has a chance to start. That part falls on Lance and his lack of development/health.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Every injury and subsequent surgery has the potential for complications. Rehab can take longer than expected. It could be re-injured requiring another surgery. Cleanup surgery for scar tissue is common. Until he's back throwing and he says he feels 100% then he's still a question mark. No way they will trade any of the 3 guys until they see how well Brock recovers and how much Trey has progressed.

Agreed…I will say a broken bone or tendon tear is much different than a full ligament tear. There's less blood flow for a ligament vs tendon which means recovery time is much longer. Timelines get hazy there.

I've said all along that if everyone truly believes Brock is the future. Then you gotta let everything be 100% before putting him out there. You need to make sure he's in football shape and had time to practice and strengthen the arm completely. Let's not go the RG3 route. Let's not destroy his career before it even happens.

Until then you need to get Lance/Sam prepared for the season. I will fully expect them to draft a QB (or bring in a UDFA). That guy might be on the active roster come WK1 if Brock is put on the PUP list. Is what it is.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Brock said things are going as planned so far so I see his "not sure" comment as him taking it one day at a time and not getting ahead of himself. Until I hear there's a setback and things aren't going as planned, I think he'll be ready for the start of the season

You are the undefeated world champion of reading exactly what you want to out of any given comment.

Brock understands there's still a lot of work to be done and nothing is guaranteed. He said everything is going as planned so far which is all that matters because I'm assuming the plan is not to miss the season

I happen to agree with you on the Brock situation. I think whoever asked him that question set him up to make a bigger story out of it.

I just think it's funny how you chose to read comments. Cuz we all know if that was a story about Trey which way you'd be reading the same thing.

Originally posted by tankle104:
It is true that we don't have any reliable data of these past surgeries/rehab for football but I don't think he will miss the season, unless something ridiculous happens.

i think he'll be back week 1, but I know that I'm being optimistic. There is a good chance he won't be ready for the first 4 weeks or so of the season.

the arm strength thing is even something Purdy said, so that's not just us being optimistic. He said it's possible his arm is stronger after the rehab. It may not be but if he is saying it, I believe it.

Darnold of been brought in because Purdy possibly wouldn't be ready week 1, I'm sure that was a factor, doesn't explain them saying he has a chance to start. That part falls on Lance and his lack of development/health.

The only way it's "stronger" is because he will be focusing on other muscle groups around the elbow/arm during rehab. He will be working out other things because he can't throw…the surgery itself will not make his arm "stronger" like when pitchers have a total restructure of their UCL (TJ) and can throw harder. He did not have that surgery. Totally different scenarios. I just want to make that clear

they can say whatever they want. They told us Bucker was gonna be a 49er "for an every long time" that didn't happen. I take damn near everything they say right now with a grain of salt. They have no reason to say anything truthful. Also sure say Sam has a chance, I'm sure they would say Jason Poe has a chance to start at OG if it helps motivating everyone. To me it's meaningless coach/GM speak.

There's a difference in "wanting to believe" everything and just looking at what actually happens and the science behind all of it with his injury.

im not here to have a long debate about QBs anymore. It will all work itself out during camp.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Every injury and subsequent surgery has the potential for complications. Rehab can take longer than expected. It could be re-injured requiring another surgery. Cleanup surgery for scar tissue is common. Until he's back throwing and he says he feels 100% then he's still a question mark. No way they will trade any of the 3 guys until they see how well Brock recovers and how much Trey has progressed.

Yeah I'd be shocked if he is traded, IF he's traded, before they know where Brock is. I think if Lance is traded it'll be around the end of camp. I don't see it happening in the draft, too many unknowns.
- how will darnold look in our system? I'm sure they'll want to see that in camp
- how will trey look this off season?
- how will Brocks rehab go? Specifically, June 2.

i think it would be a little reckless to trade Lance right now. Especially since his value is crap right now. If it was a really nice package, maybe, but I'd be surprised if anyone thinks this guy is "it" with how he's looked in his few starts and all his injuries. It isn't like he'll get traded to a better team with a better coaching staff. Lol

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It is true that we don't have any reliable data of these past surgeries/rehab for football but I don't think he will miss the season, unless something ridiculous happens.

i think he'll be back week 1, but I know that I'm being optimistic. There is a good chance he won't be ready for the first 4 weeks or so of the season.

the arm strength thing is even something Purdy said, so that's not just us being optimistic. He said it's possible his arm is stronger after the rehab. It may not be but if he is saying it, I believe it.

Darnold of been brought in because Purdy possibly wouldn't be ready week 1, I'm sure that was a factor, doesn't explain them saying he has a chance to start. That part falls on Lance and his lack of development/health.

The only way it's "stronger" is because he will be focusing on other muscle groups around the elbow/arm during rehab. He will be working out other things because he can't throw…the surgery itself will not make his arm "stronger" like when pitchers have a total restructure of their UCL (TJ) and can throw harder. He did not have that surgery. Totally different scenarios. I just want to make that clear

they can say whatever they want. They told us Bucker was gonna be a 49er "for an every long time" that didn't happen. I take damn near everything they say right now with a grain of salt. They have no reason to say anything truthful. Also sure say Sam has a chance, I'm sure they would say Jason Poe has a chance to start at OG if it helps motivating everyone. To me it's meaningless coach/GM speak.

There's a difference in "wanting to believe" everything and just looking at what actually happens and the science behind all of it with his injury.

im not sure to have a long debate about QBs anymore. It will all work itself out during camp.

Well.. yeah. Lol that's widely understood. That's why baseball players come back throwing harder most of the time. I thought that went without saying.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Every injury and subsequent surgery has the potential for complications. Rehab can take longer than expected. It could be re-injured requiring another surgery. Cleanup surgery for scar tissue is common. Until he's back throwing and he says he feels 100% then he's still a question mark. No way they will trade any of the 3 guys until they see how well Brock recovers and how much Trey has progressed.

Yeah I'd be shocked if he is traded, IF he's traded, before they know where Brock is. I think if Lance is traded it'll be around the end of camp. I don't see it happening in the draft, too many unknowns.
- how will darnold look in our system? I'm sure they'll want to see that in camp
- how will trey look this off season?
- how will Brocks rehab go? Specifically, June 2.

i think it would be a little reckless to trade Lance right now. Especially since his value is crap right now. If it was a really nice package, maybe, but I'd be surprised if anyone thinks this guy is "it" with how he's looked in his few starts and all his injuries. It isn't like he'll get traded to a better team with a better coaching staff. Lol

There's no reason at all to trade Lance. It was silly to even talk about it. His value is low. He's still on a rookie contract. There's DM involved. No way you're that convicted in draft a player…that then you're gonna ship him off for nothing after seeing 30 passing attempts last yr. That's incredibly stupid. Nevermind the shredded elbow Brock is dealing with.

the whole trade Lance stuff, never made sense. None of it…unless you're getting an all-pro QB or a stupid amount of compensation in return.

Originally posted by genus49:

I happen to agree with you on the Brock situation. I think whoever asked him that question set him up to make a bigger story out of it.

I just think it's funny how you chose to read comments. Cuz we all know if that was a story about Trey which way you'd be reading the same thing.

All it is, is him not getting ahead himself. Staying in a humble mind frame that will keep him working his hardest every day. He's not out of the woods by any means, so he needs to keep that same mentality that nothing is a given and he just needs to grind one day at a time.

If he didn't say everything is going as planned I'd be very concerned with the "not sure" comment. But since everything is going as planned, I'm able to read into that comment differently knowing his plan isn't to miss the 2023 season

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
It is true that we don't have any reliable data of these past surgeries/rehab for football but I don't think he will miss the season, unless something ridiculous happens.

i think he'll be back week 1, but I know that I'm being optimistic. There is a good chance he won't be ready for the first 4 weeks or so of the season.

the arm strength thing is even something Purdy said, so that's not just us being optimistic. He said it's possible his arm is stronger after the rehab. It may not be but if he is saying it, I believe it.

Darnold of been brought in because Purdy possibly wouldn't be ready week 1, I'm sure that was a factor, doesn't explain them saying he has a chance to start. That part falls on Lance and his lack of development/health.

The only way it's "stronger" is because he will be focusing on other muscle groups around the elbow/arm during rehab. He will be working out other things because he can't throw…the surgery itself will not make his arm "stronger" like when pitchers have a total restructure of their UCL (TJ) and can throw harder. He did not have that surgery. Totally different scenarios. I just want to make that clear

they can say whatever they want. They told us Bucker was gonna be a 49er "for an every long time" that didn't happen. I take damn near everything they say right now with a grain of salt. They have no reason to say anything truthful. Also sure say Sam has a chance, I'm sure they would say Jason Poe has a chance to start at OG if it helps motivating everyone. To me it's meaningless coach/GM speak.

There's a difference in "wanting to believe" everything and just looking at what actually happens and the science behind all of it with his injury.

im not here to have a long debate about QBs anymore. It will all work itself out during camp.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Brock said things are going as planned so far so I see his "not sure" comment as him taking it one day at a time and not getting ahead of himself. Until I hear there's a setback and things aren't going as planned, I think he'll be ready for the start of the season

You are the undefeated world champion of reading exactly what you want to out of any given comment.

THIS. x10000000000

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Brock said things are going as planned so far so I see his "not sure" comment as him taking it one day at a time and not getting ahead of himself. Until I hear there's a setback and things aren't going as planned, I think he'll be ready for the start of the season

You are the undefeated world champion of reading exactly what you want to out of any given comment.

Only way I see him not active this yr is if there's some massive setback…that said, I tried telling people the extent of this injury/recovery. There's no hey he will be ready in this date with ligament recovery. that s**t takes a while to heal and be strong enough to handle taking hits and throwing a football a ton. It's just the truth of the injury.

also I'll add the whole "his arm could be stronger after" thing is false. He didn't get TJ where it's a flat out reconstruction of the UCL. It's just an internal brace that's holding everything together while the ligament heals. There is no "ligamentization process"

So people saying we need to move Lance for a bag of chips…one that's just dumb regardless. Two we need QBs and as much as it pains people to think about he might actually end up being good with more playing time. The reason Sam was brought in is because of Brock's injury and the question marks that could with it.

Couldn't agree more. I was trying to point out the irony in how he dissects every word Kyle and John say about both QBs, trying to say it proves the team decided to move on from Trey. When Brock says he's not even sure if he'll play this season though, it falls on deaf ears. Should have heeded your advice about him long time ago. 🤦

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Couldn't agree more. I was trying to point out the irony in how he dissects every word Kyle and John say about both QBs, trying to say it proves the team decided to move on from Trey. When Brock says he's not even sure if he'll play this season though, it falls on deaf ears. Should have heeded your advice about him long time ago. 🤦

Did he not say everything is going as planned? If everything is going as planned then we're good right now. I don't care if he understands that nothing is a given for next season, everything is going as planned so far so why should that matter?