SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS at LOS ANGELES RAMS - 2021 Season NFC Championship Game

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I knew the 49ers were in trouble once the Bucs lost. TBH I expected the 49ers to lose, I just couldn't see two underdogs going into the Super Bowl.

Two things stood out to me.

1. The drive after the kittle td. The defense just let the rams drive down the field. That was a huge killer. And it all started with the taunting penalty.

2. The next drive Jimmy converts some clutch 3rd downs amd we get to the 50. Shanahan calls 3 straight runs and we get to the 42 after juice gets pancaked. Mcvay challenges the fumble and it stands. No timeouts
Shanahan f**king punts instead of going for it. The defense had been getting shredded all day. The rs go down the field and tie it up.

Game was over at that point. There was no running game and the defense sucked. Our identity was stripped.

The defense just straight up looked lost, well at least the secondary did. Ward and K'Wuan had a hard time locating the ball on deep passes. Ambry looked like a rookie, why wasn't he getting Safety help?? Jimmy played pretty well up to the last few minutes of the game at least so yes, he's to blame too and he knows it. I won't blame Tartt on that dropped INT, it would've helped but I just look at it as a pass defense. Moseley and Thomas oh man, I'm wrong again, they NEED to go out and get a solid CB.

Would've loved to get a little help by the refs, they did miss a couple holding calls that could've helped. JMO

Defense was on point. Blaming refs is what children who have to blame anyone else but themselves do. We lost because our QB was second rate. Plain and simple. Missed too many throws, was confused by coverage and simply lacked killer instinct.

Nooooo, children are the ones saying "if you support so and so you need to go jump off a bridge". And a blind homer would say "defense was on point".

Did Jimmy miss throws and throw an INT, absolutely he did. Sure he should get some blame, like I said, even Jimmy would admit that. But tell me, is that the only thing you saw......wait what am I kidding of course it is. All Jimmy's fault.....okay got it. Why the hell am I even discussing this with you I'm suppose to be jumping off a bridge, but if I did that my kids would grow up without a dad.

Hear hear....that guy is delusional. Refs absolutely made a big difference in the game. If anything, it's childish to deny the obvious facts. With 2 great teams, the outcome if often 1 or 2 plays OR 1 or 2 bad/missed calls. To those people in denial, facts don't care about your feelings.

The niners should of made more plays but so should the Rams.

Wait what? How did the refs make a difference in the game? Holy crap. Now we gone from Jimmy didn't lose the game to the refs cost us the game? Lol!

You must of not watched the game. Watch it again. 3 delay of games, at least 1-2 personal fouls, non holding calls all day and that taunting call 😂

LULZ too funny

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I knew the 49ers were in trouble once the Bucs lost. TBH I expected the 49ers to lose, I just couldn't see two underdogs going into the Super Bowl.

Two things stood out to me.

1. The drive after the kittle td. The defense just let the rams drive down the field. That was a huge killer. And it all started with the taunting penalty.

2. The next drive Jimmy converts some clutch 3rd downs amd we get to the 50. Shanahan calls 3 straight runs and we get to the 42 after juice gets pancaked. Mcvay challenges the fumble and it stands. No timeouts
Shanahan f**king punts instead of going for it. The defense had been getting shredded all day. The rs go down the field and tie it up.

Game was over at that point. There was no running game and the defense sucked. Our identity was stripped.

The defense just straight up looked lost, well at least the secondary did. Ward and K'Wuan had a hard time locating the ball on deep passes. Ambry looked like a rookie, why wasn't he getting Safety help?? Jimmy played pretty well up to the last few minutes of the game at least so yes, he's to blame too and he knows it. I won't blame Tartt on that dropped INT, it would've helped but I just look at it as a pass defense. Moseley and Thomas oh man, I'm wrong again, they NEED to go out and get a solid CB.

Would've loved to get a little help by the refs, they did miss a couple holding calls that could've helped. JMO

Defense was on point. Blaming refs is what children who have to blame anyone else but themselves do. We lost because our QB was second rate. Plain and simple. Missed too many throws, was confused by coverage and simply lacked killer instinct.

Nooooo, children are the ones saying "if you support so and so you need to go jump off a bridge". And a blind homer would say "defense was on point".

Did Jimmy miss throws and throw an INT, absolutely he did. Sure he should get some blame, like I said, even Jimmy would admit that. But tell me, is that the only thing you saw......wait what am I kidding of course it is. All Jimmy's fault.....okay got it. Why the hell am I even discussing this with you I'm suppose to be jumping off a bridge, but if I did that my kids would grow up without a dad.

Hear hear....that guy is delusional. Refs absolutely made a big difference in the game. If anything, it's childish to deny the obvious facts. With 2 great teams, the outcome if often 1 or 2 plays OR 1 or 2 bad/missed calls. To those people in denial, facts don't care about your feelings.

The niners should of made more plays but so should the Rams.

Today I saw Willis and Bosa get head locked which should've been called. That's 20 yards worth of penalties the 49ers could've absolutely benefited from those two calls. And you best believe the Rams benefited from all the calls they got.

Originally posted by jcs:
Kyle literally rode RG3 into the ground. Shaub was never developed. Ryan was already a 3x probowler before Kyle arrived.

His track record with developing QB's is not that great. He even had Manziel as a rookie before he literally quit on the Browns.

Schaub was a journeyman QB with limited talent who made a Pro Bowl and had his best season under Kyle. He can't give the guy more talent…wtf was he supposed to do for him? He gave the guy a career.

Ryan was a three time Pro Bowler who hadn't won s**t and still hasn't since Kyle left. He had his best season under Kyle, it's an objective fact. He won the MVP and made a SB….

RGIII tore his knee up. Wtf are you supposed to do? Not run a QB who is known for his ability to run? Tell Lamar that then. Injuries are mostly flukes, blaming a coach for that is insane.

Manziel? LOL. Yeah bro, he really made an effort to stick in the NFL under his next dozen coaches. Insane that you'd even try to bring up Manziel to make any sort of point here.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I knew the 49ers were in trouble once the Bucs lost. TBH I expected the 49ers to lose, I just couldn't see two underdogs going into the Super Bowl.

Two things stood out to me.

1. The drive after the kittle td. The defense just let the rams drive down the field. That was a huge killer. And it all started with the taunting penalty.

2. The next drive Jimmy converts some clutch 3rd downs amd we get to the 50. Shanahan calls 3 straight runs and we get to the 42 after juice gets pancaked. Mcvay challenges the fumble and it stands. No timeouts
Shanahan f**king punts instead of going for it. The defense had been getting shredded all day. The rs go down the field and tie it up.

Game was over at that point. There was no running game and the defense sucked. Our identity was stripped.

The defense just straight up looked lost, well at least the secondary did. Ward and K'Wuan had a hard time locating the ball on deep passes. Ambry looked like a rookie, why wasn't he getting Safety help?? Jimmy played pretty well up to the last few minutes of the game at least so yes, he's to blame too and he knows it. I won't blame Tartt on that dropped INT, it would've helped but I just look at it as a pass defense. Moseley and Thomas oh man, I'm wrong again, they NEED to go out and get a solid CB.

Would've loved to get a little help by the refs, they did miss a couple holding calls that could've helped. JMO

Defense was on point. Blaming refs is what children who have to blame anyone else but themselves do. We lost because our QB was second rate. Plain and simple. Missed too many throws, was confused by coverage and simply lacked killer instinct.

Nooooo, children are the ones saying "if you support so and so you need to go jump off a bridge". And a blind homer would say "defense was on point".

Did Jimmy miss throws and throw an INT, absolutely he did. Sure he should get some blame, like I said, even Jimmy would admit that. But tell me, is that the only thing you saw......wait what am I kidding of course it is. All Jimmy's fault.....okay got it. Why the hell am I even discussing this with you I'm suppose to be jumping off a bridge, but if I did that my kids would grow up without a dad.

Hear hear....that guy is delusional. Refs absolutely made a big difference in the game. If anything, it's childish to deny the obvious facts. With 2 great teams, the outcome if often 1 or 2 plays OR 1 or 2 bad/missed calls. To those people in denial, facts don't care about your feelings.

The niners should of made more plays but so should the Rams.

Wait what? How did the refs make a difference in the game? Holy crap. Now we gone from Jimmy didn't lose the game to the refs cost us the game? Lol!

You must of not watched the game. Watch it again. 3 delay of games, at least 1-2 personal fouls, non holding calls all day and that taunting call 😂

LULZ too funny

Bingo!!! I forgot about those other ones too.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I knew the 49ers were in trouble once the Bucs lost. TBH I expected the 49ers to lose, I just couldn't see two underdogs going into the Super Bowl.

Two things stood out to me.

1. The drive after the kittle td. The defense just let the rams drive down the field. That was a huge killer. And it all started with the taunting penalty.

2. The next drive Jimmy converts some clutch 3rd downs amd we get to the 50. Shanahan calls 3 straight runs and we get to the 42 after juice gets pancaked. Mcvay challenges the fumble and it stands. No timeouts
Shanahan f**king punts instead of going for it. The defense had been getting shredded all day. The rs go down the field and tie it up.

Game was over at that point. There was no running game and the defense sucked. Our identity was stripped.

The defense just straight up looked lost, well at least the secondary did. Ward and K'Wuan had a hard time locating the ball on deep passes. Ambry looked like a rookie, why wasn't he getting Safety help?? Jimmy played pretty well up to the last few minutes of the game at least so yes, he's to blame too and he knows it. I won't blame Tartt on that dropped INT, it would've helped but I just look at it as a pass defense. Moseley and Thomas oh man, I'm wrong again, they NEED to go out and get a solid CB.

Would've loved to get a little help by the refs, they did miss a couple holding calls that could've helped. JMO

Defense was on point. Blaming refs is what children who have to blame anyone else but themselves do. We lost because our QB was second rate. Plain and simple. Missed too many throws, was confused by coverage and simply lacked killer instinct.

Nooooo, children are the ones saying "if you support so and so you need to go jump off a bridge". And a blind homer would say "defense was on point".

Did Jimmy miss throws and throw an INT, absolutely he did. Sure he should get some blame, like I said, even Jimmy would admit that. But tell me, is that the only thing you saw......wait what am I kidding of course it is. All Jimmy's fault.....okay got it. Why the hell am I even discussing this with you I'm suppose to be jumping off a bridge, but if I did that my kids would grow up without a dad.

Hear hear....that guy is delusional. Refs absolutely made a big difference in the game. If anything, it's childish to deny the obvious facts. With 2 great teams, the outcome if often 1 or 2 plays OR 1 or 2 bad/missed calls. To those people in denial, facts don't care about your feelings.

The niners should of made more plays but so should the Rams.

Wait what? How did the refs make a difference in the game? Holy crap. Now we gone from Jimmy didn't lose the game to the refs cost us the game? Lol!

You must of not watched the game. Watch it again. 3 delay of games, at least 1-2 personal fouls, non holding calls all day and that taunting call 😂

LULZ too funny

Yeah, blame the refs. That's why we lost. Cool story.
Grow the f**k up.

Originally posted by bigbobby49:

Originally posted by Rascal:

Originally posted by bigbobby49:
f**k, this one really really stings. Really proud of how far the team went this year. Looking forward to next year..... let's hope Lance doesn't bust.

Try to look at it from another angle. The way I see it is this 2021 squad was never good from the get-go. Likewise, I am very proud of what they managed to achieve as they basically used "heart" to carry them to this point. But, we were never good or good enough, it wasn't as if this team was like the 2019 squad killing it right from the start. In the end, "heart" can only carry you so far.

The Rams have a better roster than us and they are slowly peaking. Simply put, if our roster doesn't improve, it is quite possible they might have turned the tide and start owning the 9ers going forward from this point on. I hope Lance won't bust. But, Lance alone won't get us over the hump. Truth be told, may be we need to look into the Rams' "win now" model. There might be something to it. In fact, we really might have to since we have no 1st round picks for the next 2 years. So, if we don't sign quality free agents, we might not be able to compete or compete at the highest level going forward.

I am already thinking ahead, what if Lance is still not ready come next season? Or if he ends up being a semi-bust? Initially, I was thinking about Tommy, but he has retired. Is definitely something to think about.

These are very good points and I completely agree.

We do need some quality free agent signings now that we'll have some cap relief when Jimmy leaves. These windows of opportunity don't last long and the "win now" mode might be the only way to go as you said. We really need to fix our secondary and with all the heat Ryans took at the beginning of the year, he really turned things around. If we lose him then we're in a bigger hole. I think we were a lot better than the record reflects, we just didn't have the luck in those close games we lost.

I'm still shell shocked because victory was staring us in the face. It would've been a perfect ending to a roller coaster season (I do believe we would've taken Cinci).

I just felt like we weren't ready to play or may be we were too tired from all the travelling. But, you can see in the Rams' eyes they were and wanted it more. They had a plan coming in and we couldn't do jack about it. They basically played like what we usually do. They ran the ball and played ball control all night. Bottom line is this, we couldn't outphysical them. May be we were too confident, that applies to the fans as well. 6 wins in a row, may be subconsciously we took it for granted.

Anyway, I still go back to the fact we were never good this season. When was the last time you watched a highly enjoyable blow-out game? Remember the Panthers game in 2019? That was epic. Or a high-powered back and forth high scoring game like the Saints game also in 2019? It almost feels like 99% of the games this season have been heart-attack games. That just says it all, doesn't it? Barely scrapping by to win and getting into the playoffs.

Initially, I was very happy that the Bengals won as I felt we would stand a better chance playing them than the Chiefs. But, hey we couldn't even beat the Rams. Just imagine if the Rams go onto winning the Super Bowl?! That would be hard to swallow. Questions will need to be asked to Lynch and Shanahan, what is the damn plan?!

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:

Originally posted by jcs:
Kyle literally rode RG3 into the ground. Shaub was never developed. Ryan was already a 3x probowler before Kyle arrived.

His track record with developing QB's is not that great. He even had Manziel as a rookie before he literally quit on the Browns.

Schaub was a journeyman QB with limited talent who made a Pro Bowl and had his best season under Kyle. He can't give the guy more talent…wtf was he supposed to do for him? He gave the guy a career.

Ryan was a three time Pro Bowler who hadn't won s**t and still hasn't since Kyle left. He had his best season under Kyle, it's an objective fact. He won the MVP and made a SB….

RGIII tore his knee up. Wtf are you supposed to do? Not run a QB who is known for his ability to run? Tell Lamar that then. Injuries are mostly flukes, blaming a coach for that is insane.

Manziel? LOL. Yeah bro, he really made an effort to stick in the NFL under his next dozen coaches. Insane that you'd even try to bring up Manziel to make any sort of point here.

Kyle has developed nobody at the QB position in the NFL.

And yes RG3 tore up his knee...after carrying it 120 times his rookie year. Bare this in mind when you analyze Trey because he's already had 24 carries in 2 career starts and a knee injury with kyle calling the plays.

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by Medteam:

Originally posted by 8080849ers:

jimmy actually got worse under him.

I feel like this could be true.

I think so too. When Jimmy came and didn't grasp the playbook yet, he was slinging it, running for TDs and in a flow. After his ACL, Jimmy did look more timid and was maybe told not to run? Kyle system is complex and there might be something to it that it has structured Jimmy too much. Or is Jimmy too limited that Kyles schemes around that? Hard to say.

Firmly believe shanahan ruined him. Garoppolo looked like one of the best in the league when he came here.

shanahan's ultra rigid and complex system puts pressure and doesn't allow for flexibility. I felt like instead of adapting it to Jimmy's strengths he made him worse. Or he catered too much and then never allowed jimmy to do things like throw deep or run because he reinforced to him that he couldn't.

either way, jimmy got worse instead of better and coaches shouldn't have that happen

Terrified going forward. Kyle is stuck inside himself and doesn't know what to do with a qb who will make off schedule plays. We'll see but Kyle should be on thin ice next year

See here's the problem. Deebo is in his prime. Aiyuk is coming into his own. Kittle is in his prime. Bosa is in his prime. Fred Warner is in prime. Those guys are ready to win right now. Trey is at best 2 yrs away from being good. How do you square this circle?

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
See here's the problem. Deebo is in his prime. Aiyuk is coming into his own. Kittle is in his prime. Bosa is in his prime. Fred Warner is in prime. Those guys are ready to win right now. Trey is at best 2 yrs away from being good. How do you square this circle?

How do you know

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:

Originally posted by jcs:
Kyle literally rode RG3 into the ground. Shaub was never developed. Ryan was already a 3x probowler before Kyle arrived.

His track record with developing QB's is not that great. He even had Manziel as a rookie before he literally quit on the Browns.

Schaub was a journeyman QB with limited talent who made a Pro Bowl and had his best season under Kyle. He can't give the guy more talent…wtf was he supposed to do for him? He gave the guy a career.

Ryan was a three time Pro Bowler who hadn't won s**t and still hasn't since Kyle left. He had his best season under Kyle, it's an objective fact. He won the MVP and made a SB….

RGIII tore his knee up. Wtf are you supposed to do? Not run a QB who is known for his ability to run? Tell Lamar that then. Injuries are mostly flukes, blaming a coach for that is insane.

Manziel? LOL. Yeah bro, he really made an effort to stick in the NFL under his next dozen coaches. Insane that you'd even try to bring up Manziel to make any sort of point here.

Kyle has developed nobody at the QB position in the NFL.

And yes RG3 tore up his knee...after carrying it 120 times his rookie year. Bare this in mind when you analyze Trey because he's already had 24 carries in 2 career starts and a knee injury with kyle calling the plays.

Are we back to thinking Shanahan is a bad coach? Holy s**t.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:

Originally posted by jcs:
Kyle literally rode RG3 into the ground. Shaub was never developed. Ryan was already a 3x probowler before Kyle arrived.

His track record with developing QB's is not that great. He even had Manziel as a rookie before he literally quit on the Browns.

Schaub was a journeyman QB with limited talent who made a Pro Bowl and had his best season under Kyle. He can't give the guy more talent…wtf was he supposed to do for him? He gave the guy a career.

Ryan was a three time Pro Bowler who hadn't won s**t and still hasn't since Kyle left. He had his best season under Kyle, it's an objective fact. He won the MVP and made a SB….

RGIII tore his knee up. Wtf are you supposed to do? Not run a QB who is known for his ability to run? Tell Lamar that then. Injuries are mostly flukes, blaming a coach for that is insane.

Manziel? LOL. Yeah bro, he really made an effort to stick in the NFL under his next dozen coaches. Insane that you'd even try to bring up Manziel to make any sort of point here.

Kyle has developed nobody at the QB position in the NFL.

And yes RG3 tore up his knee...after carrying it 120 times his rookie year. Bare this in mind when you analyze Trey because he's already had 24 carries in 2 career starts and a knee injury with kyle calling the plays.

And Lamar has carried it more every single season he's been in the league. So what's the issue here? RGIII was ORoY and a Pro Bowler, his injury could have happened to anyone. When has he had other chances to develop young and talented QBs? Please provide examples and an actual counter argument if you're going to try to push this narrative.

Compare apples to apples. With the QBs he's inherited (Schaub & Ryan) they've had the best season of their careers under Kyle. You guys just spew b******t with no facts and act like Kyle is inept.

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
See here's the problem. Deebo is in his prime. Aiyuk is coming into his own. Kittle is in his prime. Bosa is in his prime. Fred Warner is in prime. Those guys are ready to win right now. Trey is at best 2 yrs away from being good. How do you square this circle?

Besides Aaron Rodgers, I don't see anyone else who could utilize the offense. This team is a safety, few linemen and a qb away from being a Super Bowl caliber team.

only if John lynch decides to not be cheap and invest on what's important rather than " we trust our guys " or what ever he always says when secondary is brought up to him

Originally posted by Rocket4989:

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
See here's the problem. Deebo is in his prime. Aiyuk is coming into his own. Kittle is in his prime. Bosa is in his prime. Fred Warner is in prime. Those guys are ready to win right now. Trey is at best 2 yrs away from being good. How do you square this circle?

Besides Aaron Rodgers, I don't see anyone else who could utilize the offense. This team is a safety, few linemen and a qb away from being a Super Bowl caliber team.

only if John lynch decides to not be cheap and invest on what's important rather than " we trust our guys " or what ever he always says when secondary is brought up to him

Originally posted by NotAFinga42:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:

Originally posted by jcs:
Kyle literally rode RG3 into the ground. Shaub was never developed. Ryan was already a 3x probowler before Kyle arrived.

His track record with developing QB's is not that great. He even had Manziel as a rookie before he literally quit on the Browns.

Schaub was a journeyman QB with limited talent who made a Pro Bowl and had his best season under Kyle. He can't give the guy more talent…wtf was he supposed to do for him? He gave the guy a career.

Ryan was a three time Pro Bowler who hadn't won s**t and still hasn't since Kyle left. He had his best season under Kyle, it's an objective fact. He won the MVP and made a SB….

RGIII tore his knee up. Wtf are you supposed to do? Not run a QB who is known for his ability to run? Tell Lamar that then. Injuries are mostly flukes, blaming a coach for that is insane.

Manziel? LOL. Yeah bro, he really made an effort to stick in the NFL under his next dozen coaches. Insane that you'd even try to bring up Manziel to make any sort of point here.

Kyle has developed nobody at the QB position in the NFL.

And yes RG3 tore up his knee...after carrying it 120 times his rookie year. Bare this in mind when you analyze Trey because he's already had 24 carries in 2 career starts and a knee injury with kyle calling the plays.

Are we back to thinking Shanahan is a bad coach? Holy s**t.

These guys invent s**t to fit their narratives.

Cowher, Dungy, Vermeil, Madden, Payton, Reid, Harbaugh, Tomlin. All guys with one SB and all considered either former or current great HCs. However, this forum would have you believe that it's easy to make and win SBs.

Reeves, Levy, Schottenheimer, Grant, Brown, Allen, etc. Guys who never won it.

But remember it's easy.