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What will Jimmy's trade value be in the offseason?

Jan 31, 2022 at 4:05 PM
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by WINiner:
After THAT game yesterday, ending the way that it did. A GM is going to look at his stats in the playoffs and say "With THAT roster all he could muster was a whole lot of bupkiss?" We'll be lucky to get a day 3 pick imo. NO team is going to want to pay Jimmy G 24million dollars to be who he is. We have one of the most talented rosters in the NFL and he fails over and over in big games and the talent on this roster saves his ass.Other GM's will see this also.

GMs are going to look at what he did with an OL that was getting manhandled and say, "Bring him in. It wasn't all his fault."

Or the dudes had a messed up shoulder and thumb for a month but before that he was doing just fine

Right.

Prior to the game, one of the talking heads on NFLN made an observation that Garoppolo had changed his throwing motion since the injuries. He purported that his slightly different motion could have resulted from the loss of control by his thumb and possibly to make it easier on his shoulder.

Makes sense to me. Subconsciously your body is going to make changes to avoid pain. Jimmy was a stud when he was healthy
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Jan 31, 2022 at 4:07 PM
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by WINiner:
After THAT game yesterday, ending the way that it did. A GM is going to look at his stats in the playoffs and say "With THAT roster all he could muster was a whole lot of bupkiss?" We'll be lucky to get a day 3 pick imo. NO team is going to want to pay Jimmy G 24million dollars to be who he is. We have one of the most talented rosters in the NFL and he fails over and over in big games and the talent on this roster saves his ass.Other GM's will see this also.

GMs are going to look at what he did with an OL that was getting manhandled and say, "Bring him in. It wasn't all his fault."

Or the dudes had a messed up shoulder and thumb for a month but before that he was doing just fine

If Jimmy didn't have such a bad injury history yes, but no GM is ignore that.

Either way, I still think his value is the same from when the season started. A 2nd and a conditional 3rd.
[ Edited by TheGore49er on Jan 31, 2022 at 4:07 PM ]
Jan 31, 2022 at 4:09 PM
A second and third would be just fine if we can get it. If we got two 2nds for Alex who let's face it literally did nothing his entire stay here, we can get more for a guy who took us to the Super Bowl and the nfc championship game twice
Jan 31, 2022 at 4:11 PM
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by WINiner:
After THAT game yesterday, ending the way that it did. A GM is going to look at his stats in the playoffs and say "With THAT roster all he could muster was a whole lot of bupkiss?" We'll be lucky to get a day 3 pick imo. NO team is going to want to pay Jimmy G 24million dollars to be who he is. We have one of the most talented rosters in the NFL and he fails over and over in big games and the talent on this roster saves his ass.Other GM's will see this also.

GMs are going to look at what he did with an OL that was getting manhandled and say, "Bring him in. It wasn't all his fault."

Or the dudes had a messed up shoulder and thumb for a month but before that he was doing just fine

If Jimmy didn't have such a bad injury history yes, but no GM is ignore that.

Either way, I still think his value is the same from when the season started. A 2nd and a conditional 3rd.

No GM is going to ignore the fact he's been in huge games and not played good at all, and couldn't create a drive to win the game when it mattered most !!!!
Jan 31, 2022 at 4:19 PM
Interesting article on how every team in the NFL is situated at QB position:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-need-all-32-nfl-teams-2022-offseason-free-agency-nfl-draft

My guess is there are only 4-5 teams who absolutely have to do something next offseason to upgrade at QB. My guess is a day 2 pick from one of those teams. That's the best the Niners can hope for.
Jan 31, 2022 at 4:23 PM
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by WINiner:
After THAT game yesterday, ending the way that it did. A GM is going to look at his stats in the playoffs and say "With THAT roster all he could muster was a whole lot of bupkiss?" We'll be lucky to get a day 3 pick imo. NO team is going to want to pay Jimmy G 24million dollars to be who he is. We have one of the most talented rosters in the NFL and he fails over and over in big games and the talent on this roster saves his ass.Other GM's will see this also.

GMs are going to look at what he did with an OL that was getting manhandled and say, "Bring him in. It wasn't all his fault."

Or the dudes had a messed up shoulder and thumb for a month but before that he was doing just fine

If Jimmy didn't have such a bad injury history yes, but no GM is ignore that.

Either way, I still think his value is the same from when the season started. A 2nd and a conditional 3rd.

No GM is going to ignore the fact he's been in huge games and not played good at all, and couldn't create a drive to win the game when it mattered most !!!!
Lol you mean like scoring in the last couple minutes to get us into the playoffs in the first place? Or the 9-2 run to get us where we were at? I'm pretty sure Jimmy had nothing to do with us winning anything this year. Deebo threw it to himself
Jan 31, 2022 at 4:26 PM
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You guys are simply wrong. He's an experienced veteran QB. Who wins in the regular season and playoffs. His NFC Championship Game wasn't really that bad with the exception of 1 desperation play at the end.

There are lots of QB desperate teams out there. He would at least solidify that position for them.

You are wrong about his deal too. Many QB'S have surpassed him since he signed that. He is about mid league for cost of a starter. Cheap really.

You can get a 2nd rounder for him. Possibly multiple teams bid that.

You nailed it SanDiego!

There are 10 teams that will be looking for a QB in a poor QG draft year.

IMO - JG is a B+ QB.

Washington, Pittsburgh and Tampa would be possible landing spots. All their back-ups are weak at best.

AND 24M is a bargain for a B+ guy

Is there a way to bump that 2 up to a 1 with a pick going back to the other team? Couldn't do more than one pick I don't think. Not enough picks to give out and we need to maintain depth. We will start to lose our depth guys as they play well in their roles. A good corner or OL in the first would really be a game changer for the roster I feel like.
Jan 31, 2022 at 4:28 PM
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by WINiner:
After THAT game yesterday, ending the way that it did. A GM is going to look at his stats in the playoffs and say "With THAT roster all he could muster was a whole lot of bupkiss?" We'll be lucky to get a day 3 pick imo. NO team is going to want to pay Jimmy G 24million dollars to be who he is. We have one of the most talented rosters in the NFL and he fails over and over in big games and the talent on this roster saves his ass.Other GM's will see this also.

GMs are going to look at what he did with an OL that was getting manhandled and say, "Bring him in. It wasn't all his fault."

Or the dudes had a messed up shoulder and thumb for a month but before that he was doing just fine

If Jimmy didn't have such a bad injury history yes, but no GM is ignore that.

Either way, I still think his value is the same from when the season started. A 2nd and a conditional 3rd.

No GM is going to ignore the fact he's been in huge games and not played good at all, and couldn't create a drive to win the game when it mattered most !!!!

QBs are expensive in the NFL, even the ones who aren't great. Alex got us 2 2nd round picks, and 4-5 years later, got the Chiefs a 2nd round pick, even when it was obvious that if he couldn't win it all with that great roster, there's no chance it happens with WAS, yet they still gave up a good pick for him.

I would be surprised if we don't get at least one 2nd round pick for Jimmy.
Jan 31, 2022 at 4:31 PM
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Lol you mean like scoring in the last couple minutes to get us into the playoffs in the first place? Or the 9-2 run to get us where we were at? I'm pretty sure Jimmy had nothing to do with us winning anything this year. Deebo threw it to himself

Agreed.
Jan 31, 2022 at 4:35 PM
Jimmy is a top 15 QB when healthy. The fact that he gets hurt sucks and is fluky, I doubt GMs are going to not want him because of that. Anyone can get hurt at any time. He's a high character dude, he wins and he had this whole team believing they could win until the last minute of the nfc championship game. I think some of you will be surprised with what we get back for him
Jan 31, 2022 at 4:37 PM
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
QBs are expensive in the NFL, even the ones who aren't great. Alex got us 2 2nd round picks, and 4-5 years later, got the Chiefs a 2nd round pick, even when it was obvious that if he couldn't win it all with that great roster, there's no chance it happens with WAS, yet they still gave up a good pick for him.

I would be surprised if we don't get at least one 2nd round pick for Jimmy.

I agree, I think they get a 2nd and a conditional 3rd.
Jan 31, 2022 at 5:17 PM
Originally posted by synigod:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
QBs are expensive in the NFL, even the ones who aren't great. Alex got us 2 2nd round picks, and 4-5 years later, got the Chiefs a 2nd round pick, even when it was obvious that if he couldn't win it all with that great roster, there's no chance it happens with WAS, yet they still gave up a good pick for him.

I would be surprised if we don't get at least one 2nd round pick for Jimmy.

I agree, I think they get a 2nd and a conditional 3rd.

Yes I think that's possible.
Jan 31, 2022 at 5:18 PM
Originally posted by jersey49er:
I hope a 2nd but let's be real, teams are not blind and honestly if jimmy couldn't win a championship with our team then who can be with ? I honestly think the niners are built and ready to go on a tear with Lance, we all know jimmy just isn't the guy so other teams have to see it too right ?

There are teams with much worse QB'S than Jimmy G. Somebody will give up something for him. You will be surprised.
Jan 31, 2022 at 5:21 PM
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Still looking at a Wentz type deal for me, 2nd or 3rd this year, conditional next year depending on several things. Can't believe Colts didn't include them making the playoffs, but I would with Jimmy.

Playoffs/Division crown, 75% of snaps = 1st, otherwise 2nd or 3rd

With that RB he could be awesome on the Colts. They got that big beast mode 6'4" WR too.
Jan 31, 2022 at 5:22 PM
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
I hope a 2nd but let's be real, teams are not blind and honestly if jimmy couldn't win a championship with our team then who can be with ? I honestly think the niners are built and ready to go on a tear with Lance, we all know jimmy just isn't the guy so other teams have to see it too right ?

There are teams with much worse QB'S than Jimmy G. Somebody will give up something for him. You will be surprised.

Its not this simple.
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