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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs ARIZONA CARDINALS - 2021 Game 8

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Since 2017, 49ers have a -44 turnover diff. easily worst in the league by a considerable margin.

What's Shanahan's excuse?

How many of those turnovers were by Shanahan and how many were by the players?

Lol and how many by Mullens CJ and Hoyer too? s**t even Jimmy loves turning the ball over.

love to hear all the coaches in here explain how to reduce TOs outside of just getting better personnel and having your starters actually play more

With Jimmy, Mullens, and CJ as our QBs, it should surprise no one that we've had so many turnovers.
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Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Koldo:
7-1

That's a solid excuse.

So what's his excuse right now? Should they burn a 2025 1st to get one more pro-bowler? His roster is suppose to be the best in football right now, no?

C'mon, dude. You're a lot better than this.

Is he though?? lol
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Nah 3-5 is better. winning seasons are overrrated.

Maybe he can get one more pro-bowler…oh rats the trade deadline is over

Even the greatest team ever assembled, Shanahan's 2019 49ers, lost a few games, including an embarrassing choke job in the SB.

Losing is part of the game.

Losing most of the time is not.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
You will lose *some* games in the nfl even if youre the best coach. But winning more games than losing them is usually an indication of being a good coach. Kyle is running out of the time needed to win more games than lose games. If the Niners were 7-1 and they lost this way today no one would be talking about Kyle.

He needs a better freaking roster. He needed not to have backup QBs for almost 50% of his starts.

no if they got smoked like McVay is right now people would still be b***hing about him….because that's what fans do.

s**t needs to get fixed here….it's not always as easy as fire everyone. We've been doing that for f**king two decades

He helped build this roster. What part of that don't you get? He's had five years to build his team according to his vision. That QB you hate so much is his doing. He was on board with his big contract. No excuses. He is a losing HC. We all thought we had a genius HC but we don't. We were wrong. It's time to admit it.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Even the greatest team ever assembled, Shanahan's 2019 49ers, lost a few games, including an embarrassing choke job in the SB.

Losing is part of the game.

Losing most of the time is not.

The fact that you need to explain this should tell you everything.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
But that's what I'm saying. I realize all of that. What I'm saying is it may not just be as simple as Kyle just steps aside and coaches and Lynch gets canned. If Kyle is unwilling to go with that direction then he will not be here either.

He's not exactly in a position to be doing that right now…he's getting paid a TON of money and isn't producing. Something does have to change.

Yeah I agree. I'm just saying I wouldn't assume Kyle sees it the same way we do.
Rams still gonna win this game. Halftime adjustments, Kyle take notes
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Originally posted by Rathof44:
Rams still gonna win this game. Halftime adjustments, Kyle take notes

Has nothing to do with that. TEN is a 1-dimensional offense with a bad OL without Henry. Their secondary hasn't been good all year. Julio Jones is a shell of what he once was. These weaknesses show themselves in the long run.
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Its crazy their backups beat us.

At nearly every level of the offense too. Embarrassing.

Wait we didn't have backups on defense all over the place lol?

Yes we should have won but let's stop acting like we had a full squad going on.

They had their backup QB, backup RB, backup WR(s) out there. On paper we outmatched them 10 out of 10 times. We just played down to their talent level.

Yeah. We had our best two defenders Bosa and Warner. They had Colt the Single Shot McKoy and the bench heaters.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
He needs a better freaking roster. He needed not to have backup QBs for almost 50% of his starts.

no if they got smoked like McVay is right now people would still be b***hing about him….because that's what fans do.

s**t needs to get fixed here….it's not always as easy as fire everyone. We've been doing that for f**king two decades

Im sorry, but whose fault is the roster ? Kyle has built his roster himself, including the QBs.

Again, Kyle barring a miracle, will have 1 winning season out of 5. That's the facts. The 49ers wont have their first round picks next two years. Also facts. Whose fault is that they lack picks and have roster full of draft pick busts ? No, it is not John Lynch's fault, as he is a figurehead.

Do you really think anyone else but Kyle is responsible for taking Aaron Banks or Trey Sermon ? Or Pettis ? Or Lance ?

The Rams also don't have picks. Yet they are playing well and McVay has never had a losing season. They had the same number of superbowls reached as Kyle had. And they played in 3 more playoffs.

At the end of the day, coaches are judged on how good the teams are, their record and product on the field. Aside from one year where all stars aligned and Bosa/Ford provided an amazing boost for the D, all seasons have otherwise been turd of a product on the field.

The wins 49ers have this season are against the winless lions, the 3-6 eagles and 3-5 bears. And instead of at least trying to bring up the QB Kyle gave up a king's ransom for, they want to continue to play with a QB who's a lame duck and they are still losing.

There is no direction and no leadership at this point. I'm sorry, McVays job security is because he wins games, has roster of players and yeah, you can say his players dont get injured- but again, its up to the coach to build his roster. Kyle built his. Why is anyone else to blame but him ? The offensive product is putrid and they have blue chip players on offense.
People rag on oline, but the starting oline are in fact, 4 first round picks and the only non-first round pick UFA cannot be beaten out by a Guard Kyle reached for.

How many more years does Kyle get ? If Lance busts, he is gone. Also depends on which coaches are interested taking a dysfunctional team with a rookie QB project and no first round draft picks.

Realistically, they might not fire Kyle until they have first round picks back. But I wouldnt get mad them saying hes on the hot seat. Because after this year, he should be.
I see the Kyle Shanahan f**k boys are out in full force tonight sucking off their boy wonder.
Originally posted by SisterFister:
I see the Kyle Shanahan f**k boys are out in full force tonight sucking off their boy wonder.

Just like the Harbaugh f**k boys still reminiscing on the short time when he was actually a competent head coach.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
He needs a better freaking roster. He needed not to have backup QBs for almost 50% of his starts.

no if they got smoked like McVay is right now people would still be b***hing about him….because that's what fans do.

s**t needs to get fixed here….it's not always as easy as fire everyone. We've been doing that for f**king two decades

I think I'm on board with you. Fire everyone may not be the answer but the time may have come to seriously adjust responsibilities. I think Kyle needs to be reeled in a bit next season. John is an easy scapegoat but I'm not sure he is the issue. Too much power in Kyle seems to be the issue but that doesn't mean he is horrid despite the records over the years.

A successful Lance, less power at top, a revamped offense based on Trey's abilities. If there must be a scapegoat perhaps it's time we get a smash mouth experienced DC.

It's not time to rebuild the HC and GM yet but it is time for Kyle to self reflect and come to earth.
[ Edited by 9erson3 on Nov 7, 2021 at 10:00 PM ]
lol, NYNiner needs to take a break , don't ruin your rep with your posts tonight. You're looking worse than the niners right now.
[ Edited by braap49er on Nov 7, 2021 at 10:19 PM ]
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
Originally posted by SisterFister:
I see the Kyle Shanahan f**k boys are out in full force tonight sucking off their boy wonder.

Just like the Harbaugh f**k boys still reminiscing on the short time when he was actually a competent head coach.

At least one of them won football games.
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