SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs ARIZONA CARDINALS - 2021 Game 8 | Page 238

thl408 · 2021-11-07T00:00:23-07:00

Please post pregame and game time reactions here. Threads created during game time may be locked/merged. November 7, 2021; 1:25 pm (PT) 49ers -3.5; O/U 47 Venue: Levi's Stadium Injury Report: 49ers Out: DL Maurice Hurst (calf), DB Jimmie Ward (quadricep) Questionable: WR Deebo Samuel (calf), RB Elijah Mitchell (rib) Cardinals Out: DT Rashard Lawrence (calf), RB Jonathan Ward (concussion), DE J.J. Watt (shoulder), S James Wiggins (knee) Questionable: QB Kyler Murray (ankle), WR DeAndre Hopkins (hamstring), C Max Garcia (Achilles) .

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:29 PM

#3556

Rascal
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Originally posted by Sourball:

Originally posted by Rascal:
Before you even talk about Lance, the first question you need to ask is why does the 2021 team stink when we have kept most of the players? Listen, we have paid top dollars in extending what we believe to be top talents such as Kittle and Warner. Lance only pertains to the offense. But, the Defense sucks too. This is where you need to start from. To me, it isn't really about Lance, it is Kyle Shanahan. When the patient is ill, the doctor will have to look at the underlying cause as opposed to just treating the symptoms alone.

Can't we just euthanize them?

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:34 PM

#3557

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RabidNiner:
This.

Yup fire everyone, just like we've been doing for the past two decades. That's really working wonders for this franchise.

Um. Nobody said that. What's your take?

Lol no one said to fire kyle and everyone else?

I've said the personnel overall sucks, yes that's in Kyle and the FO. He should be coaching only, get a real GM. Not a broadcaster

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:35 PM

#3558

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McVay getting destroyed by the titans right now (minus Henry and the worst pass D in the NFL) guess he should get fired too?

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:35 PM

#3559

Ensatsu
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lol no one said to fire kyle and everyone else?

I've said the personnel overall sucks, yes that's in Kyle and the FO. He should be coaching only, get a real GM. Not a broadcaster

Good luck getting kyle to give up player personnel control on his contract and willingly letting a stronger GM candidate come in to run things, I guess.

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:36 PM

#3560

PRIMETIME21
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need to get corners badly , another pass rusher as well , f**k losing buckner hurt badly , idk where to begun to rebuild this team but get lance another weapon or two and sign a legit RB to take the load off, then another pass rusher as well.

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:36 PM

#3561

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
But that's what I'm saying. I realize all of that. What I'm saying is it may not just be as simple as Kyle just steps aside and coaches and Lynch gets canned. If Kyle is unwilling to go with that direction then he will not be here either.

He's not exactly in a position to be doing that right now…he's getting paid a TON of money and isn't producing. Something does have to change.

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:37 PM

#3562

49erfaninAZ
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
McVay getting destroyed by the titans right now (minus Henry and the worst pass D in the NFL) guess he should get fired too?

He's 7-1. Crap happens but we are 3-5. Ryan's need to go. He should of never been hired. We have a supposed SB roster and we elevate a new DC.

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:39 PM

#3563

lamontb
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RabidNiner:
This.

Yup fire everyone, just like we've been doing for the past two decades. That's really working wonders for this franchise.

Um. Nobody said that. What's your take?

Lol no one said to fire kyle and everyone else?

I've said the personnel overall sucks, yes that's in Kyle and the FO. He should be coaching only, get a real GM. Not a broadcaster

I would imagine its in Kyle's contract to have final say over personnel. What respectable GM is gonma sign up for that? But maybe it's not and we can get a real GM with GM power.

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:39 PM

#3564

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Good luck getting kyle to give up player personnel control on his contract and willingly letting a stronger GM candidate come in to run things, I guess.

He has control of the 53 man roster…lynch's contract says he has control of the 90 man roster (draft/FA) they obviously work together on everything like they should be BUT we don't have a GM with experience evaluating talent….can't put all that on the HC too. He's doing too much and it's showing.

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:40 PM

#3565

Joecool
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by RabidNiner:
This.

Yup fire everyone, just like we've been doing for the past two decades. That's really working wonders for this franchise.

Um. Nobody said that. What's your take?

Lol no one said to fire kyle and everyone else?

I've said the personnel overall sucks, yes that's in Kyle and the FO. He should be coaching only, get a real GM. Not a broadcaster

Kyle excuses. Killexcuses.

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:41 PM

#3566

lamontb
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Originally posted by 49erfaninAZ:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
McVay getting destroyed by the titans right now (minus Henry and the worst pass D in the NFL) guess he should get fired too?

He's 7-1. Crap happens but we are 3-5. Ryan's need to go. He should of never been hired. We have a supposed SB roster and we elevate a new DC.

We didn't/don't have a SB roster. Everybody got sucked into thinking it's 2019 again but its not. And it's not just the defense.

[ Edited by lamontb on Nov 7, 2021 at 6:41 PM ]

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:41 PM

#3567

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
McVay getting destroyed by the titans right now (minus Henry and the worst pass D in the NFL) guess he should get fired too?

Helps when you're 7-1, buys some leeway. Losing to a second string offense and 8 in a row at home......not so much.

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:42 PM

#3568

NYniner85
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Originally posted by lamontb:
I would imagine its in Kyle's contract to have final say over personnel. What respectable GM is gonma sign up for that? But maybe it's not and we can get a real GM with GM power.

He has final say in 53 man roster. Lynch has control of 90 man roster.

A lot of HCs have control of the 53 man roster, Lynch has no clue what he's doing….we hired a broadcaster. It's not like we didn't have legit GMs willing to come here during the interview process.

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:43 PM

#3569

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Rathof44:
Helps when you're 7-1, buys some leeway. Losing to a second string offense and 8 in a row at home......not so much.

But he's the great McVay he shouldn't be getting killed by a horrible titans D. Losing at "home" during a pandemic is lame. HF advantage isn't much there. This yr no excuses there.

Nov 7, 2021 at 6:44 PM

#3570

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
McVay getting destroyed by the titans right now (minus Henry and the worst pass D in the NFL) guess he should get fired too?

McVay's never had a losing season...Kyle's well on his way to his 4th in 5 years.