Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Lawrence lost 6-13 against that Texans team with 2 INT and 25 of 47 passing.

Jones lost to the Raiders 24-30 where he was 13 of 31 passing.

So yes, and that's the danger when you make judgements on a tiny sample size. Jones and Lawrence have a large enough sample size for you to clearly forget those one off games.

We got a couple people in here that sound like they would have traded Lawrence after his rookie season. You can't tell me otherwise if we're going off film. Dude was awful his rookie year

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I am still not sold on Purdy. His size and arm scares the hell out of me. Also he seems to not like to step up in the pocket to throw. When he gets pressure on him he likes to run backwards to evade the pressure instead of just stepping up in the pocket to evade the pressure. When you start running backwards you only have 2 options as a QB, Either throw the ball away or force it somewhere. Unless you have Lamar Jackson type speed.

I think that's fair but the problem is you only play one of these guys. If you were going to gamble on their current abilities and their respective futures, especially in conjunction with the team's current situation, Purdy has a much stronger case. He's plan A for the moment. Plans can change.

It's not an expectation for him to be elite. I didn't think he was even serviceable in 2/3 starts and the Texans game he didn't put up anything for more than half the game… against the worst defense/team in the nfl that year. That's what bugs me about him. You really think Lance,Jones,Lawrence etc would of done that poorly?

Lawrence lost 6-13 against that Texans team with 2 INT and 25 of 47 passing.

Jones lost to the Raiders 24-30 where he was 13 of 31 passing.

So yes, and that's the danger when you make judgements on a tiny sample size. Jones and Lawrence have a large enough sample size for you to clearly forget those one off games.

That's why I said you can't compare peoples situations because Lawrence had probably the worst head coach in modern football history. Lol no one has a good season thay year on that team - now look at him with a good coach? You think Lawrence would of played like that under Kyle on this team? Lol come on man

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Lawrence lost 6-13 against that Texans team with 2 INT and 25 of 47 passing.

Jones lost to the Raiders 24-30 where he was 13 of 31 passing.

So yes, and that's the danger when you make judgements on a tiny sample size. Jones and Lawrence have a large enough sample size for you to clearly forget those one off games.

We got a couple people in here that sound like they would have traded Lawrence after his rookie season. You can't tell me otherwise if we're going off film. Dude was awful his rookie year

Less than 60% completion - would have been run out of town.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

between now and the draft is Lynch's window to get maximum trade value for TL, 2nd rounder is a pipe dream, conditional future 3rd is likely.... I think Jonny's comments mean that he is open for business in regards to a trade... if they wait until training camp when Purdy is back taking snaps TL's trade value plummets and we get nothing for him

Turning 3 firsts into a conditional future 3rd would be a massive failure.
Better to see what they have first.

Trey hasn't done anything to suggest he's a bust. I'd give him more time…. But I'm wrong more than I'm right 🤷‍♂️

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
between now and the draft is Lynch's window to get maximum trade value for TL, 2nd rounder is a pipe dream, conditional future 3rd is likely.... I think Jonny's comments mean that he is open for business in regards to a trade... if they wait until training camp when Purdy is back taking snaps TL's trade value plummets and we get nothing for him

Turning 3 firsts into a conditional future 3rd would be a massive failure.
Better to see what they have first.

Yeah, that deal to flip will always be on the table based on his draft position. Look at Sam. Traded after year 3 for multiple picks.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I am still not sold on Purdy. His size and arm scares the hell out of me. Also he seems to not like to step up in the pocket to throw. When he gets pressure on him he likes to run backwards to evade the pressure instead of just stepping up in the pocket to evade the pressure. When you start running backwards you only have 2 options as a QB, Either throw the ball away or force it somewhere. Unless you have Lamar Jackson type speed.

I think that's fair but the problem is you only play one of these guys. If you were going to gamble on their current abilities and their respective futures, especially in conjunction with the team's current situation, Purdy has a much stronger case. He's plan A for the moment. Plans can change.

It's not an expectation for him to be elite. I didn't think he was even serviceable in 2/3 starts and the Texans game he didn't put up anything for more than half the game… against the worst defense/team in the nfl that year. That's what bugs me about him. You really think Lance,Jones,Lawrence etc would of done that poorly?

Lawrence lost 6-13 against that Texans team with 2 INT and 25 of 47 passing.

Jones lost to the Raiders 24-30 where he was 13 of 31 passing.

So yes, and that's the danger when you make judgements on a tiny sample size. Jones and Lawrence have a large enough sample size for you to clearly forget those one off games.

That's why I said you can't compare peoples situations because Lawrence had probably the worst head coach in modern football history. Lol no one has a good season thay year on that team - now look at him with a good coach? You think Lawrence would of played like that under Kyle on this team? Lol come on man

That Texans game was this year under that coach. The same Lawrence who threw how many playoff picks in one game that gets glossed over because the Chargers s**t the bed.

So if a guy with as much experience as Lawrence had in college, and two full years as a starter in the NFL is fine then why not have more patience with Lance before judging him so harshly?

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by JTB1974:

I am still not sold on Purdy. His size and arm scares the hell out of me. Also he seems to not like to step up in the pocket to throw. When he gets pressure on him he likes to run backwards to evade the pressure instead of just stepping up in the pocket to evade the pressure. When you start running backwards you only have 2 options as a QB, Either throw the ball away or force it somewhere. Unless you have Lamar Jackson type speed.

I think that's fair but the problem is you only play one of these guys. If you were going to gamble on their current abilities and their respective futures, especially in conjunction with the team's current situation, Purdy has a much stronger case. He's plan A for the moment. Plans can change.

It's not an expectation for him to be elite. I didn't think he was even serviceable in 2/3 starts and the Texans game he didn't put up anything for more than half the game… against the worst defense/team in the nfl that year. That's what bugs me about him. You really think Lance,Jones,Lawrence etc would of done that poorly?

Lawrence lost 6-13 against that Texans team with 2 INT and 25 of 47 passing.

Jones lost to the Raiders 24-30 where he was 13 of 31 passing.

So yes, and that's the danger when you make judgements on a tiny sample size. Jones and Lawrence have a large enough sample size for you to clearly forget those one off games.

That's why I said you can't compare peoples situations because Lawrence had probably the worst head coach in modern football history. Lol no one has a good season thay year on that team - now look at him with a good coach? You think Lawrence would of played like that under Kyle on this team? Lol come on man

That Texans game was this year under that coach. The same Lawrence who threw how many playoff picks in one game that gets glossed over because the Chargers s**t the bed.

So if a guy with as much experience as Lawrence had in college, and two full years as a starter in the NFL is fine then why not have more patience with Lance before judging him so harshly?

Purdy > Lawrence

Lance is unproven but looks to be on the fragile side.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I am still not sold on Purdy. His size and arm scares the hell out of me. Also he seems to not like to step up in the pocket to throw. When he gets pressure on him he likes to run backwards to evade the pressure instead of just stepping up in the pocket to evade the pressure. When you start running backwards you only have 2 options as a QB, Either throw the ball away or force it somewhere. Unless you have Lamar Jackson type speed.

I think that's fair but the problem is you only play one of these guys. If you were going to gamble on their current abilities and their respective futures, especially in conjunction with the team's current situation, Purdy has a much stronger case. He's plan A for the moment. Plans can change.

It's not an expectation for him to be elite. I didn't think he was even serviceable in 2/3 starts and the Texans game he didn't put up anything for more than half the game… against the worst defense/team in the nfl that year. That's what bugs me about him. You really think Lance,Jones,Lawrence etc would of done that poorly?

Lawrence lost 6-13 against that Texans team with 2 INT and 25 of 47 passing.

Jones lost to the Raiders 24-30 where he was 13 of 31 passing.

So yes, and that's the danger when you make judgements on a tiny sample size. Jones and Lawrence have a large enough sample size for you to clearly forget those one off games.

That's why I said you can't compare peoples situations because Lawrence had probably the worst head coach in modern football history. Lol no one has a good season thay year on that team - now look at him with a good coach? You think Lawrence would of played like that under Kyle on this team? Lol come on man

That Texans game was this year under that coach. The same Lawrence who threw how many playoff picks in one game that gets glossed over because the Chargers s**t the bed.

So if a guy with as much experience as Lawrence had in college, and two full years as a starter in the NFL is fine then why not have more patience with Lance before judging him so harshly?

1. I never thought Lance was the right selection
2. Lawrence is exponentially better at everything in football than Lance and was considering a generational talent.
3. Lance is extremely inaccurate. Lawrence was clearly in a bad situation. The damn coach had scandals and horrible things coming out before the season is over.
4. I don't want to wait 4 seasons (which is about he would take to get enough experience to play like Jimmy) for anyone selected 3rd overall.
5. The same way I was always worried Jimmy was going to get hurt, is how I feel about Lance.
6. Most importantly, it isn't necessary when you have another qb who you don't have to wait for to play like a top QB. I'd rather give him time to see if he can sustain it, not give Lance time to see if he can score more than 10 PPG.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I am still not sold on Purdy. His size and arm scares the hell out of me. Also he seems to not like to step up in the pocket to throw. When he gets pressure on him he likes to run backwards to evade the pressure instead of just stepping up in the pocket to evade the pressure. When you start running backwards you only have 2 options as a QB, Either throw the ball away or force it somewhere. Unless you have Lamar Jackson type speed.

I think that's fair but the problem is you only play one of these guys. If you were going to gamble on their current abilities and their respective futures, especially in conjunction with the team's current situation, Purdy has a much stronger case. He's plan A for the moment. Plans can change.

It's not an expectation for him to be elite. I didn't think he was even serviceable in 2/3 starts and the Texans game he didn't put up anything for more than half the game… against the worst defense/team in the nfl that year. That's what bugs me about him. You really think Lance,Jones,Lawrence etc would of done that poorly?

Lawrence lost 6-13 against that Texans team with 2 INT and 25 of 47 passing.

Jones lost to the Raiders 24-30 where he was 13 of 31 passing.

So yes, and that's the danger when you make judgements on a tiny sample size. Jones and Lawrence have a large enough sample size for you to clearly forget those one off games.

That's why I said you can't compare peoples situations because Lawrence had probably the worst head coach in modern football history. Lol no one has a good season thay year on that team - now look at him with a good coach? You think Lawrence would of played like that under Kyle on this team? Lol come on man

That Texans game was this year under that coach. The same Lawrence who threw how many playoff picks in one game that gets glossed over because the Chargers s**t the bed.

So if a guy with as much experience as Lawrence had in college, and two full years as a starter in the NFL is fine then why not have more patience with Lance before judging him so harshly?

Trust me I have patience I watched Alex try to do his thing for 2005-2010
this stuff is a cake walk in comparison

I'm on board to watch more TL if BP isn't ready. Excited to see if we get a new and improved TL this summer.

Originally posted by tankle104:
1. I never thought Lance was the right selection
2. Lawrence is exponentially better at everything in football than Lance and was considering a generational talent.
3. Lance is extremely inaccurate. Lawrence was clearly in a bad situation. The damn coach had scandals and horrible things coming out before the season is over.
4. I don't want to wait 4 seasons (which is about he would take to get enough experience to play like Jimmy) for anyone selected 3rd overall.
5. The same way I was always worried Jimmy was going to get hurt, is how I feel about Lance.
6. Most importantly, it isn't necessary when you have another qb who you don't have to wait for to play like a top QB. I'd rather give him time to see if he can sustain it, not give Lance time to see if he can score more than 10 PPG.

Purdy got hurt as many time as Lance did this season.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Trust me I have patience I watched Alex try to do his thing for 2005-2010
this stuff is a cake walk in comparison

I'm on board to watch more TL if BP isn't ready. Excited to see if we get a new and improved TL this summer.

Seriously, maybe this is a big reason why I'm so against giving Lance time. Lol I'm terrified he will play decent enough to keep you optimistic but not bad enough to bench him. Aka a damn nightmare. Every year we kept saying this was his year. lol I have too much PTSD from that.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Trey hasn't done anything to suggest he's a bust. I'd give him more time…. But I'm wrong more than I'm right 🤷‍♂️

Trey hasn't had the opportunity to develop here because of the position of our team and because he was injured.

I think a more nuanced argument can be made that it was a bust pick for our team, and that fact doesn't say much about what kind of player Trey can become. The argument could be made that developing him when we have other options at the position comes at the cost of maximizing the team's chances to win. This is the fault of management not Trey. It's ludicrous to think you can play and develop a raw prospect at the most important position on the field and still win the game's biggest prize. I'm just not sure they viewed him as that level of project. Some reports indicate otherwise regardless of their public comments.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by tankle104:
1. I never thought Lance was the right selection
2. Lawrence is exponentially better at everything in football than Lance and was considering a generational talent.
3. Lance is extremely inaccurate. Lawrence was clearly in a bad situation. The damn coach had scandals and horrible things coming out before the season is over.
4. I don't want to wait 4 seasons (which is about he would take to get enough experience to play like Jimmy) for anyone selected 3rd overall.
5. The same way I was always worried Jimmy was going to get hurt, is how I feel about Lance.
6. Most importantly, it isn't necessary when you have another qb who you don't have to wait for to play like a top QB. I'd rather give him time to see if he can sustain it, not give Lance time to see if he can score more than 10 PPG.

Purdy got hurt as many time as Lance did this season.

Lmao seriously? Lance has had as many injuries keep him from playing as he's played full games. Took a FREAK injury to get him injured and he didn't even leave the game. lol last part was more of a joke

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I am still not sold on Purdy. His size and arm scares the hell out of me. Also he seems to not like to step up in the pocket to throw. When he gets pressure on him he likes to run backwards to evade the pressure instead of just stepping up in the pocket to evade the pressure. When you start running backwards you only have 2 options as a QB, Either throw the ball away or force it somewhere. Unless you have Lamar Jackson type speed.

I think that's fair but the problem is you only play one of these guys. If you were going to gamble on their current abilities and their respective futures, especially in conjunction with the team's current situation, Purdy has a much stronger case. He's plan A for the moment. Plans can change.

It's not an expectation for him to be elite. I didn't think he was even serviceable in 2/3 starts and the Texans game he didn't put up anything for more than half the game… against the worst defense/team in the nfl that year. That's what bugs me about him. You really think Lance,Jones,Lawrence etc would of done that poorly?

Lawrence lost 6-13 against that Texans team with 2 INT and 25 of 47 passing.

Jones lost to the Raiders 24-30 where he was 13 of 31 passing.

So yes, and that's the danger when you make judgements on a tiny sample size. Jones and Lawrence have a large enough sample size for you to clearly forget those one off games.

That's why I said you can't compare peoples situations because Lawrence had probably the worst head coach in modern football history. Lol no one has a good season thay year on that team - now look at him with a good coach? You think Lawrence would of played like that under Kyle on this team? Lol come on man

That Texans game was this year under that coach. The same Lawrence who threw how many playoff picks in one game that gets glossed over because the Chargers s**t the bed.

So if a guy with as much experience as Lawrence had in college, and two full years as a starter in the NFL is fine then why not have more patience with Lance before judging him so harshly?

1. I never thought Lance was the right selection
2. Lawrence is exponentially better at everything in football than Lance and was considering a generational talent.
3. Lance is extremely inaccurate. Lawrence was clearly in a bad situation. The damn coach had scandals and horrible things coming out before the season is over.
4. I don't want to wait 4 seasons (which is about he would take to get enough experience to play like Jimmy) for anyone selected 3rd overall.
5. The same way I was always worried Jimmy was going to get hurt, is how I feel about Lance.
6. Most importantly, it isn't necessary when you have another qb who you don't have to wait for to play like a top QB. I'd rather give him time to see if he can sustain it, not give Lance time to see if he can score more than 10 PPG.

Not to dismiss your other points but I'm jumping straight to 6.

It isn't necessary thanks to Purdy, it's a luxury. But it's a luxury we have and can benefit from so why throw it away?

No idea what's going to happen but if Purdy is good to go week 1 it's a win, if he's not and Trey has to play a couple of games we can atleast get a definitive answer on where he's actually at.