Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yeah bad miss that he failed to mention while throwing the rest of the team and coach under the buss. That missed TD might have changed the whole game. Fields capitalized on his that day. Ended up being the difference.

lol shut up man.

Nothing I said wasn't true. QBs sometimes miss throws. I talked earlier about that one. Imagine expecting a 22 year old QB with such little experience to be perfect and turning a blind eye to all the other issues in that game just so you can pretend Lance blew it on his own.

And Fields threw a punt pass across the field. Not the same thing at all. How many deep shots to Kroft do you think Trey attempted?

That was a miss on first down…wow it totally changed the game which is why the Bears scored a whopping 0 points on the next possession.

We just have to hold Trey to a much much lower standard than Purdy, and then we can say Trey played kind of ok.

You did that with Jimmy for six seasons. Brock, of course, was more ready to play than any rookie since Herbert. And here's the thing: Trey hasn't played much different from most rookie QBs. In fact, he's played BETTER than most rookie QBs or QBs with a similar level of experience. But Brock has played like a 10 year veteran. It could be, rather than Trey being bad (since he's actually played better than most rookie QBs or QBs with a similar level of experience), it could just be that the difference between the two is because BROCK is a great QB.

Time will tell. But he's played better than most QBs in the entire NFL the last few weeks.

Sure, but quite a number of posters in this thread want to start Trey next season over the great Brock Purdy because Trey need reps.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Sure, but quite a number of posters in this thread want to start Trey next season over the great Brock Purdy because Trey need reps.

So true

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yeah bad miss that he failed to mention while throwing the rest of the team and coach under the buss. That missed TD might have changed the whole game. Fields capitalized on his that day. Ended up being the difference.

lol shut up man.

Nothing I said wasn't true. QBs sometimes miss throws. I talked earlier about that one. Imagine expecting a 22 year old QB with such little experience to be perfect and turning a blind eye to all the other issues in that game just so you can pretend Lance blew it on his own.

And Fields threw a punt pass across the field. Not the same thing at all. How many deep shots to Kroft do you think Trey attempted?

That was a miss on first down…wow it totally changed the game which is why the Bears scored a whopping 0 points on the next possession.

We just have to hold Trey to a much much lower standard than Purdy, and then we can say Trey played kind of ok.

You did that with Jimmy for six seasons. Brock, of course, was more ready to play than any rookie since Herbert. And here's the thing: Trey hasn't played much different from most rookie QBs. In fact, he's played BETTER than most rookie QBs or QBs with a similar level of experience. But Brock has played like a 10 year veteran. It could be, rather than Trey being bad (since he's actually played better than most rookie QBs or QBs with a similar level of experience), it could just be that the difference between the two is because BROCK is a great QB.

Time will tell. But he's played better than most QBs in the entire NFL the last few weeks.

Sure, but quite a number of posters in this thread want to start Trey next season over the great Brock Purdy because Trey need reps.

The guy who's best should start. That will be seen in May. And if Brock leads us to a Super Bowl WIN and continues playing as he has, then obviously he deserves to take the first team reps first. But under no circumstances should there not be competition between them. Whoever plays best in camp should start. Until then, Brock is our QB, Jimmy will be somewhere else next year, and next year Trey will either be the backup or will have wrestled the starting job away from Brock.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Sure, but quite a number of posters in this thread want to start Trey next season over the great Brock Purdy because Trey need reps.

So true

That's where Kyle has a problem. Brock ha splayed well enough to be the starter but the fact is Trey does need the reps. Now Kyle has to figure out where he'a going to get those reps. He can get a lot in practice but it's the game action that he needs. Unless Brock gets hurt in pre season or practice, it's going to hard to find game time for Trey.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Sure, but quite a number of posters in this thread want to start Trey next season over the great Brock Purdy because Trey need reps.

So true

That's where Kyle has a problem. Brock ha splayed well enough to be the starter but the fact is Trey does need the reps. Now Kyle has to figure out where he'a going to get those reps. He can get a lot in practice but it's the game action that he needs. Unless Brock gets hurt in pre season or practice, it's going to hard to find game time for Trey.

Chances are in training camp Trey won't be able to overcome the trust Brock has built up in games, but then will get his chance during the season whenever Brock gets nicked.

Start Lunch Trey and lose games so he can get reps would only happen on Madden. It's a dumb idea in real life and won't happen LOL

TL is in the rear view mirror now, Big Cock Brock is QB1 and won't even be a competition next year in TC and Purdy is far more talented.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Sure, but quite a number of posters in this thread want to start Trey next season over the great Brock Purdy because Trey need reps.

So true

That's where Kyle has a problem. Brock ha splayed well enough to be the starter but the fact is Trey does need the reps. Now Kyle has to figure out where he'a going to get those reps. He can get a lot in practice but it's the game action that he needs. Unless Brock gets hurt in pre season or practice, it's going to hard to find game time for Trey.

Could always do what we did in the pre-season game against the Raiders last year. I mean, it looked pretty unstoppable for one drive or so.

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EDIT—and unlike Jimmy, Brock wouldn't be thrown out of his rhythm doing that. Much like Kyle's fantasy of positionless football extending to the QB, imagine if this actually was executed well. Trey comes in for a drive or two here, a few plays there, and Brock otherwise runs the offense. Teams will have to prepare for two QBs every week. Is it fantasy? Mostly. But if it actually worked? Cutting edge and unprecedented genius.
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But then there's the concern of putting too much into a game plan, so there's another draw back.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Yeah bad miss that he failed to mention while throwing the rest of the team and coach under the buss. That missed TD might have changed the whole game. Fields capitalized on his that day. Ended up being the difference.

lol shut up man.

Nothing I said wasn't true. QBs sometimes miss throws. I talked earlier about that one. Imagine expecting a 22 year old QB with such little experience to be perfect and turning a blind eye to all the other issues in that game just so you can pretend Lance blew it on his own.

And Fields threw a punt pass across the field. Not the same thing at all. How many deep shots to Kroft do you think Trey attempted?

That was a miss on first down…wow it totally changed the game which is why the Bears scored a whopping 0 points on the next possession.

We just have to hold Trey to a much much lower standard than Purdy, and then we can say Trey played kind of ok.

You did that with Jimmy for six seasons. Brock, of course, was more ready to play than any rookie since Herbert. And here's the thing: Trey hasn't played much different from most rookie QBs. In fact, he's played BETTER than most rookie QBs or QBs with a similar level of experience. But Brock has played like a 10 year veteran. It could be, rather than Trey being bad (since he's actually played better than most rookie QBs or QBs with a similar level of experience), it could just be that the difference between the two is because BROCK is a great QB.

Time will tell. But he's played better than most QBs in the entire NFL the last few weeks.

Sure, but quite a number of posters in this thread want to start Trey next season over the great Brock Purdy because Trey need reps.

The guy who's best should start. That will be seen in May. And if Brock leads us to a Super Bowl WIN and continues playing as he has, then obviously he deserves to take the first team reps first. But under no circumstances should there not be competition between them. Whoever plays best in camp should start. Until then, Brock is our QB, Jimmy will be somewhere else next year, and next year Trey will either be the backup or will have wrestled the starting job away from Brock.

Sure. Perhaps it was a mistake to hand Trey the job without competition this season.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Start Lunch Trey and lose games so he can get reps would only happen on Madden. It's a dumb idea in real life and won't happen LOL

TL is in the rear view mirror now, Big Cock Brock is QB1 and won't even be a competition next year in TC and Purdy is far more talented.

Agree, but also Steve Young grew behind Montana, despite being on the bench. Unfortunately, as others here have said, football is a tough sport and Brock isn't built like Cam Newton, and even he got injured. So you have to have Trey as a backup just in case Brock has a ding he needs a week or two to recover from. Our QB squad is *loaded* as far as I'm concerned, and I would require at least two number 1 picks, in my opinion, before I'd even consider trading Trey - because of that injury concern of mine.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Start Lunch Trey and lose games so he can get reps would only happen on Madden. It's a dumb idea in real life and won't happen LOL

TL is in the rear view mirror now, Big Cock Brock is QB1 and won't even be a competition next year in TC and Purdy is far more talented.

Who's Mr. Irrelevant today?

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Sure, but quite a number of posters in this thread want to start Trey next season over the great Brock Purdy because Trey need reps.

So true

Trey needs to show he can run the offense before he gets labeled a starter.

When a QB is going into year two and can't run the base offense...that should lead everyone to pause and ask...why?

Trey needs reps.... Trey needs reps....

That is not how that should work on a team with Super Bowl aspirations, Trey needs to be able to run the base offense first.

His rookie year he looked like a rookie... and not a good one. He was something like 15 out of 36 on passes over 8 yards, only converted 9 3rd downs out of 31, and had something like 5 balls batted down at the LOS.

That tells me at that time he didn't know where the passing windows were, where his WRs expected the ball to be and a fundamental accuracy issue.

I don't think it was a coincidence that Matt Lombardo reported that the 49ers were underwhelmed by Trey Lance's growth at the beginning of the summer going into year 2, and then the 49ers run a gimmick offense to start this year.

We really don't know how much Lance improved over his rookie season ( I personally ignore the monsoon game), maybe he would have been fine this year and would have learned on the fly....maybe they scrambled to bring Jimmy back intending to have Lance on a short leash and were not prepared to throw a season away as Lance figured out how to play QB at an NFL level....who knows....

I would say going into year 3 for Lance, he has to take the job from Purdy at this point. I highly doubt they share snaps in the offseason, no one is giving him a starting role just because. This team has it's eyes on the post season, they only reps going Lance's way is preseason, mop up duty, or the ones he outright earns by being the clear cut best QB on the roster.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Sure. Perhaps it was a mistake to hand Trey the job without competition this season.

You drop that much draft capital into a QB... and you have a QB change...it has got to be Lance.

There is a real chance Brock could have beat out Lance in an open competition last May or have made it so close it caused a rift in the team.

The front office has to save face, the team has to know who their guy is....nah... it had to be Lance.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Sure, but quite a number of posters in this thread want to start Trey next season over the great Brock Purdy because Trey need reps.

So true

And if it doesn't work out they can always blame the team for failing him lol

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Sure, but quite a number of posters in this thread want to start Trey next season over the great Brock Purdy because Trey need reps.

So true

And if it doesn't work out they can always blame the team for failing him lol

This.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
Sure. Perhaps it was a mistake to hand Trey the job without competition this season.

You drop that much draft capital into a QB... and you have a QB change...it has got to be Lance.

There is a real chance Brock could have beat out Lance in an open competition last May or have made it so close it caused a rift in the team.

The front office has to save face, the team has to know who their guy is....nah... it had to be Lance.

Yes if we had a fair competition you would have to bet that Purdy beats out Lance.