A question that puzzles the mind and has generated great angst in our breast

fropwns · 2021-01-04T13:13:06-08:00

Friends! I submit, in the finest of our traditions around these parts, a question. One to tickle your fancy, but not, your pickle. It is, simply, this: "What makes a great 49er Quarterback?" Note, I said great, not good. Jeff Garcia was good. And indeed, though some of you will protest, so, too, at times, was Colin Kaepernick. Jimmy GQ, as the peasants among you prefer to call him, is an enigma. When healthy, he looks the part of a good 49ers Quarterback, and if you consider his performance against the Saints as an harbinger of things to come, perhaps a potentially great one. The thing is, dear friends, he is injured often. Too often for most of our tastes. But, this thread is not about him, solely, it is about what seems to be missing from our ranks: an idea of what we are looking for in our quarterback. Some of you desire the quick, orgasmic, joy of a bright shiny new signal caller. Aye, the glean of great talent is alluring, but, I wonder, will it work? Will you be fulfilled or left broken and spent? Whether it be a Buckeye, a Tiger, a Cougar, a Gator, great googly-moogly, perhaps you desire a a Bison or a Bulldog, or maybe, even, a member of the Crimson Tide. For that matter you might be eyeing later in the draft a quarterback from that little school in NW Indiana that gets the hell beat out of, consistently, over the past decade in very big games. Maybe you want an older Lion, a do-over to get an old Patriot, or heck, you might actually want Josh Rosen to start. Some of you actually want Rosen? But, I digress. It is time to return to the heart of the matter. "What makes a great 49er Quarterback?" Is it winning Super Bowls? I must confess, I use this standard, along with two others, pedigree and performance under fire, to make my evaluation of the person playing QB1 for your FIVE-f**kING TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS, who have lost the last two Super Bowls they appeared in because, in part, of uninspired and average QB play. But, me, I am a rank amateur. I am no X's and O's man, man. I can't be bothered with actually learning plays. Pfft. Or whether routes are run correctly or, for that matter, if the QB delivers that s**t on time, where he is supposed to. You want that? Go see Jonnydell. That dude eats, breaths, s**ts, smokes, fries, wet and DRY ages, and more film. I have it on good and reliable authority that he works for NFL Films, but I can neither confirm or deny the accuracy of that information. I just know he does. Shout-out to the conspiracy theorists in the general politics and presidential campaign thread in the parking lot for the tip. It seems reallllllllly credible. And please, after almost 17 years (my anniversary is coming soon--send money.) posting and serving as a quasi-oracle and vocal heart beat for this place, you should know by now that I am totally full of s**t, like, 90% of the time. So, don't get all sanctimonious and whine that this is just another sack Jimmy thread. Why would I bother writing that when McGlinchey should be doing it. And I love that big dude, but somebody, please, for the love of god, get him a s**t load of burgers, a weight room, a picture of Joe Staley, and make him nasty again, please. Pretty please with extra Crisco on top? Anyway, this thread is about you, yes, you, identifying what makes a great 49er Quarterback. So, I will ask again, "what makes a great 49er Quarterback?" Because currently, I do not see one on this roster.

Jan 4, 2021 at 1:16 PM

English
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Steve Young got a massive amount of abuse "deer stuck in car headlights" until he won a Super Bowl. So maybe that is it?

Jan 4, 2021 at 1:18 PM

Goatie
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Or maybe it is the millennial entitled brat generation mentality?

Jan 4, 2021 at 1:27 PM

jonnydel
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Without a doubt, the OP is the best post of 2021. By a MILE

Jan 4, 2021 at 1:28 PM

susweel
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Where are the breasts

Jan 4, 2021 at 1:35 PM

grapesofrathman
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Sir, I opened this topic for breasts

Jan 4, 2021 at 1:51 PM

fropwns
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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Without a doubt, the OP is the best post of 2021. By a MILE

I love me some Jonny "F-ing" Del, man.

Jan 4, 2021 at 2:21 PM

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A great 49er QB?

1) Intelligence, decision making
2) Anticipation
3) Vision and awareness - Seeing the field as one entity when . Not just trying to just execute the given play. Parallel processing...Aware what the defense is doing during the play at the same time as the opposing offense. Everything happening at once.
4) Mobility - Can't always rely on the OLine to give you time
5) Accuracy
6) Timing

Jan 4, 2021 at 2:50 PM

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Good vs Great is an easy question for me to answer.

Good QB's are just that. They win ball games and routinely put their team in positions to win. You'll see playoff visits and they may win you a game or two in it.

Great QB's are legends. Not every legend is a myth. Some are flesh and blood. Some legends walk among us. They aren't born, they're built. Legends are made from iron and sweat. Mind and muscle. Blood and vision. Victory. Legends are champions. They grow. They win. They conquer. Great QB's are the creme dela creme. They win Super Bowls. They are immortalized. You put their name and jersey on a pedestal.

There is nothing wrong with being called a "good QB." It is a compliment. But for me, to be a great one, you have to reach the pinnacle and seize it.

[ Edited by HarbaughzDeep on Jan 4, 2021 at 3:03 PM ]

Jan 4, 2021 at 3:00 PM

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Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
A great 49er QB?

1) Intelligence, decision making
2) Anticipation
3) Vision and awareness - Seeing the field as one entity when . Not just trying to just execute the given play. Parallel processing...Aware what the defense is doing during the play at the same time as the opposing offense. Everything happening at once.
4) Mobility - Can't always rely on the OLine to give you time
5) Accuracy
6) Timing

These are the needed traits for a great NFL QB.... Jimmy G showed it early but it faded over time. You MUST read the defense, see the weakness and make the pass before the pass catcher is open. You also have to throw your pass to create a YAC opportunity and so your fellow player doesn't get murdered by incoming missile LB's and DB's. Can we please upgrade our OL and get a signal caller that can do this.... PLEASE!!!!

Jan 4, 2021 at 3:04 PM

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VaBeachNiner
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Come on we all know who is the greatest 49ers QB of all time.

[ Edited by VaBeachNiner on Jan 4, 2021 at 5:18 PM ]

Jan 4, 2021 at 3:17 PM

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Rathof44
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Big part of it for me is that visceral feeling you get about your QB when you know SF can still come back in the game, that you are never completely out of it. Montana versus the Bengals. Brady against the Falcons. Sadly, Mahomes against SF last year. s**t-ton of swagger and confidence on top of the aforementioned tangibles.

[ Edited by Rathof44 on Jan 4, 2021 at 3:18 PM ]

Jan 4, 2021 at 3:19 PM

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brodiebluebanaszak
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Did someone mention breasts?

Jan 4, 2021 at 3:28 PM

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dangerbird
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Give me the athleticism of Kaepernick, the mind of Alex Smith, and the heart of Shaun Hill...or just give me Tim Rattay

Jan 4, 2021 at 3:39 PM

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Originally posted by jonnydel:
Without a doubt, the OP is the best post of 2021. By a MILE

Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Without a doubt, the OP is the best post of 2021. By a MILE

I love me some Jonny "F-ing" Del, man.

And I love me some fropwns