"3rd and Jauan" Jennings l WR Tennessee

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
The 49ers paid Brock because they believe he can turn lemons into lemonade at WR just like Brady did. The money is best spent on defensive players as well as high draft picks. With Brock and Shanahan we don't have to spend too highly on offensive players unless it's a sure thing

I don't think it's that simple, this offense and especially Brock depend on timing and receivers being where they're suppose to be. You need guys that can run great routes, good hands and play tough.

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by jcs:
17 a year for 3 seasons max or let him walk. He's at best a #2 on a good team but more realistically a #3.

I think #2 is his ceiling. Calling him.a 3 is a little insulting. Based on what he has done, he appears to be good to 800 - 1000 yards if starting with a lot of clutch play. Do you think there are 64 receivers better than Jennings?

Right now, teams are bracketing CMac out of the backfield.
JJ hasn't seen a double team or rolled coverage since he's been here, not even on third down or in the red zone.
He's a #3 like Bourne.
Will suck to let him walk but he's replaceable.

He's not replaceable. Ask our RB's if he's replaceable when we are running the ball. He is basically another TE when it comes to run blocking, and he is a TD machine! Why would we let that walk out the door?

We can also argue that we would not be in our current position without JJ, something we can say about Deebo & B.A outright at this point.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by jcs:
17 a year for 3 seasons max or let him walk. He's at best a #2 on a good team but more realistically a #3.

I think #2 is his ceiling. Calling him.a 3 is a little insulting. Based on what he has done, he appears to be good to 800 - 1000 yards if starting with a lot of clutch play. Do you think there are 64 receivers better than Jennings?

Right now, teams are bracketing CMac out of the backfield.
JJ hasn't seen a double team or rolled coverage since he's been here, not even on third down or in the red zone.
He's a #3 like Bourne.
Will suck to let him walk but he's replaceable.

He's not replaceable. Ask our RB's if he's replaceable when we are running the ball. He is basically another TE when it comes to run blocking, and he is a TD machine! Why would we let that walk out the door?

We can also argue that we would not be in our current position without JJ, something we can say about Deebo & B.A outright at this point.

If he demands 20 million a year he's replaceable. Let him test the market, I bet he comes back at our asking price. As far as run blocking goes we're one of the worst in the league so not sure how that helps.

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by jcs:
17 a year for 3 seasons max or let him walk. He's at best a #2 on a good team but more realistically a #3.

I think #2 is his ceiling. Calling him.a 3 is a little insulting. Based on what he has done, he appears to be good to 800 - 1000 yards if starting with a lot of clutch play. Do you think there are 64 receivers better than Jennings?

Right now, teams are bracketing CMac out of the backfield.
JJ hasn't seen a double team or rolled coverage since he's been here, not even on third down or in the red zone.
He's a #3 like Bourne.
Will suck to let him walk but he's replaceable.

He's not replaceable. Ask our RB's if he's replaceable when we are running the ball. He is basically another TE when it comes to run blocking, and he is a TD machine! Why would we let that walk out the door?

We can also argue that we would not be in our current position without JJ, something we can say about Deebo & B.A outright at this point.

If he demands 20 million a year he's replaceable. Let him test the market, I bet he comes back at our asking price. As far as run blocking goes we're one of the worst in the league so not sure how that helps.

JJ is probably one of the best run blocking WR's I've ever seen. So he is not contributing to the idea that we are one of the worst run blocking wr groups if this is what you are talking about.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by jcs:
17 a year for 3 seasons max or let him walk. He's at best a #2 on a good team but more realistically a #3.

I think #2 is his ceiling. Calling him.a 3 is a little insulting. Based on what he has done, he appears to be good to 800 - 1000 yards if starting with a lot of clutch play. Do you think there are 64 receivers better than Jennings?

Right now, teams are bracketing CMac out of the backfield.
JJ hasn't seen a double team or rolled coverage since he's been here, not even on third down or in the red zone.
He's a #3 like Bourne.
Will suck to let him walk but he's replaceable.

He's not replaceable. Ask our RB's if he's replaceable when we are running the ball. He is basically another TE when it comes to run blocking, and he is a TD machine! Why would we let that walk out the door?

We can also argue that we would not be in our current position without JJ, something we can say about Deebo & B.A outright at this point.

If he demands 20 million a year he's replaceable. Let him test the market, I bet he comes back at our asking price. As far as run blocking goes we're one of the worst in the league so not sure how that helps.

JJ is probably one of the best run blocking WR's I've ever seen. So he is not contributing to the idea that we are one of the worst run blocking wr groups if this is what you are talking about.

3.9 ypc for our leading RB whom before last weekend only had a long of 20 yards all season despite nearly leading the league in touches. Getting to the 2nd level is on the Oline and the RB but for nearly all of the year but one game, once he got to the 2nd level he never saw daylight is how I contribute this. He's a good downfield blocker most of the time but he's not so special as to be irreplaceable.

Make him a fair deal like a decent #2 should make but don't come close to #1 money...especially this team, we've been burned enough by overpaying for a lack of production from the position

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by jcs:
17 a year for 3 seasons max or let him walk. He's at best a #2 on a good team but more realistically a #3.

I think #2 is his ceiling. Calling him.a 3 is a little insulting. Based on what he has done, he appears to be good to 800 - 1000 yards if starting with a lot of clutch play. Do you think there are 64 receivers better than Jennings?

Right now, teams are bracketing CMac out of the backfield.
JJ hasn't seen a double team or rolled coverage since he's been here, not even on third down or in the red zone.
He's a #3 like Bourne.
Will suck to let him walk but he's replaceable.

He's not replaceable. Ask our RB's if he's replaceable when we are running the ball. He is basically another TE when it comes to run blocking, and he is a TD machine! Why would we let that walk out the door?

We can also argue that we would not be in our current position without JJ, something we can say about Deebo & B.A outright at this point.

If he demands 20 million a year he's replaceable. Let him test the market, I bet he comes back at our asking price. As far as run blocking goes we're one of the worst in the league so not sure how that helps.

JJ is probably one of the best run blocking WR's I've ever seen. So he is not contributing to the idea that we are one of the worst run blocking wr groups if this is what you are talking about.

3.9 ypc for our leading RB whom before last weekend only had a long of 20 yards all season despite nearly leading the league in touches. Getting to the 2nd level is on the Oline and the RB but for nearly all of the year but one game, once he got to the 2nd level he never saw daylight is how I contribute this. He's a good downfield blocker most of the time but he's not so special as to be irreplaceable.

He's special, and he's a good wr.

The 3.9 ypc has very little to do with our wr's blocking ability. JJ doesn't take plays off on running plays. By the way, our leading rb is on pace for 1000/1000 yard season.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
I don't think it's that simple, this offense and especially Brock depend on timing and receivers being where they're suppose to be. You need guys that can run great routes, good hands and play tough.

Well that's not far off from my point. You don't have to spend first second and third round picks to get weapons to surround Brock nor do you have to commit big bucks in FA either. Spend the big money and the high draft picks on building us a defense

Walsh always said you develop offense but you draft defense

Originally posted by glorydayz:
He's special, and he's a good wr.

The 3.9 ypc has very little to do with our wr's blocking ability. JJ doesn't take plays off on running plays. By the way, our leading rb is on pace for 1000/1000 yard season.

CMC hasn't had as many chunk plays because we've had Kittle hurt as well as we've been missing our field stretchers and out separators which all helps in the run game. It ain't been because JJ ain't blocking

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
He's special, and he's a good wr.

The 3.9 ypc has very little to do with our wr's blocking ability. JJ doesn't take plays off on running plays. By the way, our leading rb is on pace for 1000/1000 yard season.

CMC hasn't had as many chunk plays because we've had Kittle hurt as well as we've been missing our field stretchers and out separators which all helps in the run game. It ain't been because JJ ain't blocking

FACTS

We offer the fair price and if he doesn't bite we let someone else over pay and we net the comp pick. The guy has to get paid he has to eat and we've got to stick to our script

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
We offer the fair price and if he doesn't bite we let someone else over pay and we net the comp pick. The guy has to get paid he has to eat and we've got to stick to our script

In your opinion, what's the "fair price"?

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
We offer the fair price and if he doesn't bite we let someone else over pay and we net the comp pick. The guy has to get paid he has to eat and we've got to stick to our script

Oh, if we go deep into the playoffs someone will definitely overpay. Just like we did with BA. The whole narrative of the players around Purdy being the reason for his success have been blown out of the water this season.

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by TopDogBerkeley:
What are your thoughts on a 4-year, $70M contract for Jauan?

Seems fair right now, but what's wild is that wasn't the number 15 million this offseason? We gotta start buying early lol. I get why it's higher now, but the 49ers were living in a different world at the time with who they thought they would have in the receiver room. I'm wondering what they think of the receiving room excluding Jennings. Thinking of Jennings, he is all in for the team, plays hard, competes, gives us a an edge on offense, blocks his ass off, etc. We also have two young guys who can't buy playing time. So without Jennings, it's not looking too good. With him, if you add just one more speed guy, we really have a group.

Going forward, my hope is that Pearsall can stay healthy enough to be a clear 1, Jennings is the 2, Watkins and Cowing emerge as strong 3rd and 4th receivers, and we'd still have Robinson and possibly Bourne. With Aiyuk's salary gone, they probably can pull this off.

Yep we can survive with that considering we also have Kittle, CMC, and Tonges as very good Receiving threats.

We won't even uses Tonges when Kittle is healthy. But yes, he is a very good receiving threat. I'll be good either way with what the team does, but I look at Jennings as someone who brings more than just the receiving yards to the table.

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by jcs:
17 a year for 3 seasons max or let him walk. He's at best a #2 on a good team but more realistically a #3.

I think #2 is his ceiling. Calling him.a 3 is a little insulting. Based on what he has done, he appears to be good to 800 - 1000 yards if starting with a lot of clutch play. Do you think there are 64 receivers better than Jennings?

Right now, teams are bracketing CMac out of the backfield.
JJ hasn't seen a double team or rolled coverage since he's been here, not even on third down or in the red zone.
He's a #3 like Bourne.
Will suck to let him walk but he's replaceable.

He's a 2 and is better than Bourne. Most teams do not have two receivers better than Jennings. If he were a free agent, he's getting signed immediately- the same cannot be said for Bourne and you certainly couldn't sign him for 5 million a year or whatever Bourne got. I like the things JJ brings besides simply catching the ball. The guy has consistently been clutch throughout his entire career. It also would be nice to go into next year with two clear starters. It also means we can hold off until day 3 to draft a receiver. The yards are replaceable. The other things are not.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
We won't even uses Tonges when Kittle is healthy. But yes, he is a very good receiving threat. I'll be good either way with what the team does, but I look at Jennings as someone who brings more than just the receiving yards to the table.

He's a 2 and is better than Bourne. Most teams do not have two receivers better than Jennings. If he were a free agent, he's getting signed immediately- the same cannot be said for Bourne and you certainly couldn't sign him for 5 million a year or whatever Bourne got. I like the things JJ brings besides simply catching the ball. The guy has consistently been clutch throughout his entire career. It also would be nice to go into next year with two clear starters. It also means we can hold off until day 3 to draft a receiver. The yards are replaceable. The other things are not.

No small feat to score 9 TDs in over an 8 game span. Thats impressive as hell.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Well that's not far off from my point. You don't have to spend first second and third round picks to get weapons to surround Brock nor do you have to commit big bucks in FA either. Spend the big money and the high draft picks on building us a defense

Walsh always said you develop offense but you draft defense

And yet he moved up for Rice all the same…I think there's a hierarchy on position groups and what matters as far as compensation and draft stock goes.

Also, it's not like they haven't spent up on defense here. I actually think they need to go EDGE in the 1st, but a playmaker makes sense as well, obviously it depends who's there when they're picking.