"3rd and Jauan" Jennings l WR Tennessee

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Scoots:
It's just good business. He had by far his best stats in his career. It was no kind of surprise he wanted more, that is common. The issue was that he wasn't likely to have better stats this year so he had to go for it now. The 49ers don't want to and won't pay him the money he wants, they need him to play this year though and they want him to play hard.

The incentives cost them nothing if he sits and sulks, if he gets hurt they don't pay, if he plays poorly they bench him and they don't pay. The only way they pay is if he plays and plays well.

Every team would make that deal.

You've said some version of this multiple times now. He and his agent knew his value was peak right now etc etc.

How do you reconcile this opinion with the fact that he reportedly turned down a multiple year extension for this one year reworking of his contract to include 3 million in incentives? He's clearly 'betting on himself'. This should be obvious.

Because the multi-year offer was not high enough. That should be obvious. There is a discrepancy between how he values himself and the 49ers do. That doesn't change the fact that his market value was at it's highest level at the end of last year.

The big question now is he really in playing shape after missings so many practices and having no game reps.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
Just curious but where do you think the York's money comes from? They make their millions off the fanbase of the Niners or Leeds whether it's in ticket sales, merch, food, etc. So in reality, it actually is your money.

Not my money. Been a while since I bought any merch or tickets or watched an ad or paid for cable or paid local sales/property tax bump for their stadium, etc.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The big question now is he really in playing shape after missings so many practices and having no game reps.

If his calf was a real problem then probably not.

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The big question now is he really in playing shape after missings so many practices and having no game reps.

If his calf was a real problem then probably not.

Was it his calf or his head?

Originally posted by Scoots:
Because the multi-year offer was not high enough. That should be obvious. There is a discrepancy between how he values himself and the 49ers do. That doesn't change the fact that his market value was at it's highest level at the end of last year.

Lol. You have repeatedly said that he and his agent knew he needed to get a new deal now because they knew he wouldn't be able to repeat his production. You said it like 50x times. Clearly they believe otherwise.

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The big question now is he really in playing shape after missings so many practices and having no game reps.

If his calf was a real problem then probably not.

He'll be rusty as a WR. But he should be able to still block like the madman he is.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Scoots:
Because the multi-year offer was not high enough. That should be obvious. There is a discrepancy between how he values himself and the 49ers do. That doesn't change the fact that his market value was at it's highest level at the end of last year.

Lol. You have repeatedly said that he and his agent knew he needed to get a new deal now because they knew he wouldn't be able to repeat his production. You said it like 50x times. Clearly they believe otherwise.

What I said was that they realized his value wasn't going to be higher than now. I never thought they were actually going to get it. I was defending him wanting the new deal. Clearly they wanted a new big deal, I don't think they now believe otherwise.

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Scoots:
Because the multi-year offer was not high enough. That should be obvious. There is a discrepancy between how he values himself and the 49ers do. That doesn't change the fact that his market value was at it's highest level at the end of last year.

Lol. You have repeatedly said that he and his agent knew he needed to get a new deal now because they knew he wouldn't be able to repeat his production. You said it like 50x times. Clearly they believe otherwise.

What I said was that they realized his value wasn't going to be higher than now. I never thought they were actually going to get it. I was defending him wanting the new deal. Clearly they wanted a new big deal, I don't think they now believe otherwise.

It'll suck if the Seahawks pay him next off season. Would break our hearts. Lol

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Lol. You have repeatedly said that he and his agent knew he needed to get a new deal now because they knew he wouldn't be able to repeat his production. You said it like 50x times. Clearly they believe otherwise.

Essentially, everything I was saying about Jennings and how he would get the team to want to work with him - was what he did. I predicted that it would be $3M in incentives but the team didn't want to reward him if he wasn't working out and doing team stuff.

the team is trying to get future 49ers to not take this route

so many posters here, were screaming to trade or cut him. lol I'm not saying you did but I know you know what I'm referencing. Lmao

Originally posted by tankle104:
Essentially, everything I was saying about Jennings and how he would get the team to want to work with him - was what he did. I predicted that it would be $3M in incentives but the team didn't want to reward him if he wasn't working out and doing team stuff.

the team is trying to get future 49ers to not take this route

so many posters here, were screaming to trade or cut him. lol I'm not saying you did but I know you know what I'm referencing. Lmao

It's like you mentioned before… people (fans) let emotions dictate their opinions and/or they think their opinions are accurate regardless of the evidence.

Scoots has the opinion that Jennings value will never be higher than what it was following last offseason. He may end up being correct, but Jennings and his agent clearly don't believe that, let alone know it. It's simply this posters' opinion.

Jennings believes he is a very good player worthy of a substantial long term contract. He has now chosen to turn down a multi year extension, presumably at a lower number than what he believes he's worth, to go out and prove it. We're better for it, at least this season specifically. All this guy has done is answer the bell with whatever role we've put him in, whether it's high effort physical blocker and 3rd WR option (behind two stars), or as a starter in a weaker WR group.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Lol. You have repeatedly said that he and his agent knew he needed to get a new deal now because they knew he wouldn't be able to repeat his production. You said it like 50x times. Clearly they believe otherwise.

Essentially, everything I was saying about Jennings and how he would get the team to want to work with him - was what he did. I predicted that it would be $3M in incentives but the team didn't want to reward him if he wasn't working out and doing team stuff.

the team is trying to get future 49ers to not take this route

so many posters here, were screaming to trade or cut him. lol I'm not saying you did but I know you know what I'm referencing. Lmao

It never made sense to trade him because no team was going to offer a 2nd round pick for him ... which would be the price to make it make sense.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Essentially, everything I was saying about Jennings and how he would get the team to want to work with him - was what he did. I predicted that it would be $3M in incentives but the team didn't want to reward him if he wasn't working out and doing team stuff.

the team is trying to get future 49ers to not take this route

so many posters here, were screaming to trade or cut him. lol I'm not saying you did but I know you know what I'm referencing. Lmao

It's like you mentioned before… people (fans) let emotions dictate their opinions and/or they think their opinions are accurate regardless of the evidence.

Scoots has the opinion that Jennings value will never be higher than what it was following last offseason. He may end up being correct, but Jennings and his agent clearly don't believe that, let alone know it. It's simply this posters' opinion.

Jennings believes he is a very good player worthy of a substantial long term contract. He has now chosen to turn down a multi year extension, presumably at a lower number than what he believes he's worth, to go out and prove it. We're better for it, at least this season specifically. All this guy has done is answer the bell with whatever role we've put him in, whether it's high effort physical blocker and 3rd receiving option (behind two stars), or as a starter in a weaker WR group.

To be clear, I believed Jennings was worth more than what the 49ers were offering too ... just not close to the $20M per some were suggesting.

And Jennings and his agent may agree with me that his value will never be higher ... that's why they had to make the ask when they did. They can agree with me and still want and expect more money next year.

I agree that the best outcome for the 49ers and Jennings is where we are ... a happy/motivated Jennings going hard for the 49ers this season to maximize his next contract from another team.

Internet reports they offered him 3 years for $48 million. $16 million a year. To extend. But he wants a one year prove it deal for the increase in incentives. He wants to hit free agency where he probably can make more money.