"3rd and Jauan" Jennings l WR Tennessee

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by bzborow1:
If the reports are true that Juan is seeking to be top 20 paid WR then the 49ers are certainly right to do what they're doing because the player is delusional. He's good but he's not a top tier guy.

Will we wind up giving the three other WR's Chosen, Moore, Bourne, ect. over $20 million in combined salaries to make up for no JJ, or B.A?

lolwut? Dumb post of the day nominee right here.

Math skills required, I should have put a note on the original post.

Also I should note that the WR's we've added to the roster aren't playing for free.

Then look up their contracts and add them up. You think we're bringing Bourne in for 15+mil??

Also, even if we were paying multiple FA WRs over 20mil, which we aren't, JJ wants a multi-year deal of over 20mil/season. Do some thankin'.

How good is JJ if it takes three guys to replace him?

Still no math skills I see...

Sorry about my earlier nomination for dumb post of the day. I was wrong to be so impatient. The above is my new nomination.

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Originally posted by boast:
love ya JJ but $20M per aint it

Honestly, I just don't think we could afford it. Thats why the team has been aggressively getting younger - WR being one of those positions.

theyve invested a lot into BA/Pearsall/Cowing/watkins (they seem to be our future lineup). Plus developing the next JJ/Bourne in the background.

I don't think the team ever planned on trying to retain JJ after this year cause it didn't fit the financial forecast. That's just my opinion.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by boast:
love ya JJ but $20M per aint it

Honestly, I just don't think we could afford it. Thats why the team has been aggressively getting younger - WR being one of those positions.

theyve invested a lot into BA/Pearsall/Cowing/watkins (they seem to be our future lineup). Plus developing the next JJ/Bourne in the background.

I don't think the team ever planned on trying to retain JJ after this year cause it didn't fit the financial forecast. That's just my opinion.

So why don't they trade him like they did Deebo?

Originally posted by Poldarn49:
FWIW advanced analytics love Jennings. ESPN Analytics had him consistently high in his career - 9th best receiver in 2024. PFF as 14th best WR in 2024.

https://espnanalytics.com/receivers

So his agents pushing for more money is not a surprise. That Lynch was caving to any and all previous pay raise demand, did not help.

Jennings has been great but Purdy is a large reason for him coming alive. He trusts him and throws a lot of balls he maybe shouldn't to Jennings. To his credit JJ catches most of them but the reality is he just got paid last offseason. He clearly understands the leverage he has with Aiyuk being injured and the other injuries we have...however he also has a very small window where his leverage goes from in his favor to going against him.

We did find out the incentives people have been talking about were from last year but no team is going to pay him 20+ million(maybe not even 15+) just based on his current resume. He's averaged 32 yards per game...

His best bet to make the most money he can is playing this year and putting up numbers that CAN get him paid in the higher $ bracket.

If he sits out the early games his window to be a major contributor shrinks. By week 4 Robinson will be back. Maybe by week 7 Aiyuk will be back. That's assuming Pearsall and the other guys we have don't produce and make him less of a necessity.

He's playing with fire IMO and the smartest thing for him is to play and show what he's capable of. If he sits out the contract rolls. If he sits out only a part of the year...he'll find himself coming back potentially rusty and lower on the depth chart anyways.

I get his frustration and his thought process but if the team isn't budging his best bet is to play and bet on himself while he's got the opportunity to shine. Not to mention the 49ers could get really petty about this and throw him on IR for his calf, gain a roster spot and he misses his opportunity to be WR1/WR2.

Unfortunately, Jennings chose the worst possible time to put his foot down for a major extension.

First, the team extended him for around 7.5 mil a year last year, which is a general sign that the team is not going to increase his salary 3 to 4 fold moving forward even though he had a good year.

Second, the team just got out from under contracts and are wearing the dead cap his this year - this was intentional. The team is a in a mini rebuild and therefore has no intention of paying large contracts to B or C players while it gets its cap right. We don't want to end up like the Saints.

Third, Jennings is not worth 20 mil +. He is a good but not great receiver. His year was not good enough to get us 7 wins. Hell, we lost a game when he caught for over 200 yards.

Fourth, Jennings is the opportunity the team has been looking for to create new contract precedent. Each of the last few off seasons we have had A+ players demanding record setting contracts. The team clearly regrets the Aiyuk deal, and is therefore using Jenings to send a message to its above average players that it is no longer playing these hold out = massive contract games. The team cannot afford to bend to every player who has a good year otherwise the cap will be in deep trouble. It's easy to put the foot down on Jennings, despite the WR room issues right now, in part because they signed Robinson, drafted Pearsall, and have other veterans who the team likely see as at least closer to Jennings, but who cost little. This is the chance to reset their negotiation precedent that they will only pay A+ players (Purdy, Warner, Kittle).

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by boast:
love ya JJ but $20M per aint it

Honestly, I just don't think we could afford it. Thats why the team has been aggressively getting younger - WR being one of those positions.

theyve invested a lot into BA/Pearsall/Cowing/watkins (they seem to be our future lineup). Plus developing the next JJ/Bourne in the background.

I don't think the team ever planned on trying to retain JJ after this year cause it didn't fit the financial forecast. That's just my opinion.

So why don't they trade him like they did Deebo?

Could be numerous reason.
primarily that they didn't like the offers they were getting for him. They'd of rather had his talent for the 2025 season than whatever compensation they could have got. Use him as a bridge for the new young guys as they get established. Would be my guess

hes cheap for next season and he does what we need him to. Usually is pretty healthy. Just a solid bridge WR while we get the young guys developed, instead of some 6 or 7th round pick (idk what's actually offered but I don't imagine it was much)

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by boast:
love ya JJ but $20M per aint it

Honestly, I just don't think we could afford it. Thats why the team has been aggressively getting younger - WR being one of those positions.

theyve invested a lot into BA/Pearsall/Cowing/watkins (they seem to be our future lineup). Plus developing the next JJ/Bourne in the background.

I don't think the team ever planned on trying to retain JJ after this year cause it didn't fit the financial forecast. That's just my opinion.

So why don't they trade him like they did Deebo?

Could be numerous reason.
primarily that they didn't like the offers they were getting for him. They'd of rather had his talent for the 2025 season than whatever compensation they could have got. Use him as a bridge for the new young guys as they get established. Would be my guess

Well he's not playing or practicing so he's not helping in those areas. I'm thinking he would command a 7th round pick, when you look at the Deebo trade.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by boast:
love ya JJ but $20M per aint it

Honestly, I just don't think we could afford it. Thats why the team has been aggressively getting younger - WR being one of those positions.

theyve invested a lot into BA/Pearsall/Cowing/watkins (they seem to be our future lineup). Plus developing the next JJ/Bourne in the background.

I don't think the team ever planned on trying to retain JJ after this year cause it didn't fit the financial forecast. That's just my opinion.

So why don't they trade him like they did Deebo?

Could be numerous reason.
primarily that they didn't like the offers they were getting for him. They'd of rather had his talent for the 2025 season than whatever compensation they could have got. Use him as a bridge for the new young guys as they get established. Would be my guess

Well he's not playing or practicing so he's not helping in those areas. I'm thinking he would command a 7th round pick, when you look at the Deebo trade.

This is a more complex picture than just "trade him or play him". They're running an entire roster of players. The front office has to run this team in a way that doesn't encourage other players to do what he's doing. Star players have got away with it recently, and the team has vocally been upset about it. They aren't going to cave and give a big contract to anyone that isn't a star players.

it's called culture and organizational management. All the other players are paying attention to the situation on how they can approach their contract negotiation. Niners are trying to make this look like a bad option for them.

We don't know what's been financially offered by the 49ers, if anything, so the team has so far said "play or sit and lose money". I'm sure they're assuming he will eventually just play and the team will get what they want. That or some team is going to make an offer we like.

I personally wish both parties would settle in a couple mil in incentives added to his contract but I'm doubting that'll happen now. But to sit here and go "okay f**k him and trade him" for whatever you can possibly get, is giving in to the player in a way. They don't want every play that's upset to feel like they can just leave if they throw a fit. Right now the team seems serious about "play or lose money, but you're not going anywhere". That could change but that seems to be the situation now

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Well he's not playing or practicing so he's not helping in those areas. I'm thinking he would command a 7th round pick, when you look at the Deebo trade.

why trade today for a 7th, when you can let him walk in FA and get a better comp pick?

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Well he's not playing or practicing so he's not helping in those areas. I'm thinking he would command a 7th round pick, when you look at the Deebo trade.

why trade today for a 7th, when you can let him walk in FA and get a better comp pick?

because we need the roster spot for a player that is on the field playing.

Originally posted by boast:
why trade today for a 7th, when you can let him walk in FA and get a better comp pick?

A lot of fans view everything from a purely emotional perspective. All you have to do is look at the situation like you're managing a group of people and all the variables that come with it, then you can understand why the team is doing what it's doing. The team also isn't making every decision based solely off of this season. - they're projecting 3+ years on the decisions they're making

its similar to having 6 kids and you just cave in and give whatever one wants if they throw a fit, the other kids will realize it and do the same thing. You don't want to encourage them to do certain things to get what they want, you try to reinforce the behavior of the ones who do things the right way.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Well he's not playing or practicing so he's not helping in those areas. I'm thinking he would command a 7th round pick, when you look at the Deebo trade.

why trade today for a 7th, when you can let him walk in FA and get a better comp pick?

because we need the roster spot for a player that is on the field playing.

glorydayz requests to trade JJ and a 2027 3rd round pick for Justin Gage and a 2026 7th round pick. Seems like a good deal.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Well he's not playing or practicing so he's not helping in those areas. I'm thinking he would command a 7th round pick, when you look at the Deebo trade.

why trade today for a 7th, when you can let him walk in FA and get a better comp pick?

because we need the roster spot for a player that is on the field playing.

It's not worth setting that precedent. If they want to play hardball put him on IR. Either he gets healthy real quick or he sits 4+ games when we end up getting help coming in and pushing him down the depth chart.

Originally posted by SD49er:
Unfortunately, Jennings chose the worst possible time to put his foot down for a major extension.
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Fourth, Jennings is the opportunity the team has been looking for to create new contract precedent. Each of the last few off seasons we have had A+ players demanding record setting contracts. The team clearly regrets the Aiyuk deal, and is therefore using Jenings to send a message to its above average players that it is no longer playing these hold out = massive contract games. The team cannot afford to bend to every player who has a good year otherwise the cap will be in deep trouble. It's easy to put the foot down on Jennings, despite the WR room issues right now, in part because they signed Robinson, drafted Pearsall, and have other veterans who the team likely see as at least closer to Jennings, but who cost little. This is the chance to reset their negotiation precedent that they will only pay A+ players (Purdy, Warner, Kittle).

I agree, this is why JJ won't be rewarded with new contract or a trade.
It does not help that there must have been some regret regarding Deebo's contract as well.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Well he's not playing or practicing so he's not helping in those areas. I'm thinking he would command a 7th round pick, when you look at the Deebo trade.

why trade today for a 7th, when you can let him walk in FA and get a better comp pick?

because we need the roster spot for a player that is on the field playing.

Ya......get him off the roster. Cut him if you have to. Who the f**k wants to give up picks for a WR3 holdout with a calf injury asking for 20 mil.