"3rd and Jauan" Jennings l WR Tennessee, signs with Vikings

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i push back on paying jennings big money. the skill that you pay money for is the ability to separate or uncover. that's why we paid BA. Jennings is a dawg, who will hand fight ppl and run block his tail off, and make catches with a DB on him. he's not a guy you pay huge money to. maybe pay him WR3 or even WR2 type money. but draw the line, he's not WR1 money, cuz he lacks that critical skill of always being open. it can get exponentially harder on the QB the more guys you have that are covered up when he drops back. or exponentially easier, if you have guys uncovering all over the place (see Goff). this guy is kinda like a FB mentality at WR.

According to the head coach, Jennings is the best separator on the team.

he's hyping the man up. coaches do that. harbaugh said that crabtree has the best pair of hands in league history. something along those lines. it happens.

Maybe, but he said it three years ago. So I don't know why he would've been blowing smoke about our third option.

coaches are that way. they wanna motivate, and that can be done positively or negatively, like BA in the doghouse. i think kyle is gonna be very complimentary of JJ cuz of how he plays the game. it's the same reason fans like JJ. he plays with a mean streak, and bosses ppl around with his physical play. as a coach and you see someone blocking a guy to the gatorade, ok, that's your kind of guy. i think we are fooling ourselves if we think he's a prime cooper kupp type receiver who can always be open, by getting massive separation, that's not the player i am witnessing.

and btw, if he said it 3 years ago, that would indicate 2022, and BA was still rounding into form, and deebo isn't much of a route runner. so in that context, the statement makes some sense given our team. i think around 2022 and certainly into 2023, BA went beyond JJ in terms of ability to get open.

I just find it funny that a Kyle Shanahan led run first team is about to let the best blocking WR in the game, who just put up nearly 1K yards receiving & is in his prime, walk out the door in free agency. If you ain't blocking on Shanny's team then you ain't getting the rock and we are about to just let that man walk out of our building… No way Jose! JJ is next on the list for an extension, book it!

Originally posted by elguapo:
Next year it does look like JJ and McKivitz are going to be gone just like most of us knew that Greenlaw and Hufanga and Banks were going to be gone this year. It sucks because JJ is such a good player and the best run blocker in the league

Greenlaw and Hufunga weren't extended because they can't stay healthy. Banks wasn't extended because he isn't worth the money.

I fully expect us to extend both Jennings and McKivitz to long term deals. The team loves both of them.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
I just find it funny that a Kyle Shanahan led run first team is about to let the best blocking WR in the game, who just put up nearly 1K yards receiving & is in his prime, walk out the door in free agency. If you ain't blocking on Shanny's team then you ain't getting the rock and we are about to just let that man walk out of our building… No way Jose! JJ is next on the list for an extension, book it!

People keep saying Jauan is "the best blocking WR" ... where does that ranking come from? I remember going in to last year PFF had Aiyuk as the best run blocking WR but I don't pay for the site so didn't get any data or reasoning for it.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Greenlaw and Hufunga weren't extended because they can't stay healthy. Banks wasn't extended because he isn't worth the money.

I fully expect us to extend both Jennings and McKivitz to long term deals. The team loves both of them.

Maybe ... but they might want more than they are worth too, and the team is low on space.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
I just find it funny that a Kyle Shanahan led run first team is about to let the best blocking WR in the game, who just put up nearly 1K yards receiving & is in his prime, walk out the door in free agency. If you ain't blocking on Shanny's team then you ain't getting the rock and we are about to just let that man walk out of our building… No way Jose! JJ is next on the list for an extension, book it!

He has a hell if an opportunity to shine early with BA likely missing time. I think if he shines in that moment they'll extend him mid-season and continue looking to part ways with Aiyuk.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
I just find it funny that a Kyle Shanahan led run first team is about to let the best blocking WR in the game, who just put up nearly 1K yards receiving & is in his prime, walk out the door in free agency. If you ain't blocking on Shanny's team then you ain't getting the rock and we are about to just let that man walk out of our building… No way Jose! JJ is next on the list for an extension, book it!

that's my exact thoughts. as long as JJ is playing the way we see with the attitude and physicality, shanny isn't letting this guy out of the building. i don't think you have to pay him top WR money. just solid money. he's kind of like our draymond

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
I just find it funny that a Kyle Shanahan led run first team is about to let the best blocking WR in the game, who just put up nearly 1K yards receiving & is in his prime, walk out the door in free agency. If you ain't blocking on Shanny's team then you ain't getting the rock and we are about to just let that man walk out of our building… No way Jose! JJ is next on the list for an extension, book it!

People keep saying Jauan is "the best blocking WR" ... where does that ranking come from? I remember going in to last year PFF had Aiyuk as the best run blocking WR but I don't pay for the site so didn't get any data or reasoning for it.

it comes from reps like this

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
it comes from reps like this

#49ers WR Jauan Jennings blocking #Packers CB Corey Ballentine ... all the way to the Gatorade table.pic.twitter.com/VuXjNO4CSb

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) January 21, 2024

This is an incredible block from Jauan Jennings. You can see his eyes tracking his target pre-snap, but the ability to adjust his angle across the formation to line up and erase him is outstanding. This is a receiver! 👏 pic.twitter.com/9j3av1hiDm

— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) December 19, 2023

A great angle of Jauan Jennings pancake block on Terrion Arnold 🥞 pic.twitter.com/qiCJbbEU28

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) January 1, 2025

So it's anecdotal and not data based.

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
it comes from reps like this

#49ers WR Jauan Jennings blocking #Packers CB Corey Ballentine ... all the way to the Gatorade table.pic.twitter.com/VuXjNO4CSb

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) January 21, 2024

This is an incredible block from Jauan Jennings. You can see his eyes tracking his target pre-snap, but the ability to adjust his angle across the formation to line up and erase him is outstanding. This is a receiver! 👏 pic.twitter.com/9j3av1hiDm

— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) December 19, 2023

A great angle of Jauan Jennings pancake block on Terrion Arnold 🥞 pic.twitter.com/qiCJbbEU28

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) January 1, 2025

So it's anecdotal and not data based.

i'm not a big data guy, so i can't speak on that. i just watch as many nfl games as i can including all the 49er games, and i go off what i see. i think it would be hard to watch a lot of nfl football and 49er football, and not understand JJ is a big asset as a physical WR who blocks his tail off. data is a lil bit fake if you ask me. i've actually worked in that industry, and it's pretty subjective stuff. it's ppl watching the games, and having some in house standard of what a effective block is or is not. so it's just watching ball at the end of the day, you are just letting other ppl making informative decisions, rather than making them yourself. that's just my take on data in football.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'm not a big data guy, so i can't speak on that. i just watch as many nfl games as i can including all the 49er games, and i go off what i see. i think it would be hard to watch a lot of nfl football and 49er football, and not understand JJ is a big asset as a physical WR who blocks his tail off. data is a lil bit fake if you ask me. i've actually worked in that industry, and it's pretty subjective stuff. it's ppl watching the games, and having some in house standard of what a effective block is or is not. so it's just watching ball at the end of the day, you are just letting other ppl making informative decisions, rather than making them yourself. that's just my take on data in football.

And that's why I asked the question the way I did. No question he's a very good blocker for a WR. I can see that. The issue is where does "best" come from? Did someone do an in depth analysis of every WR and the blocking chances they get, who they are blocking, where the block is happening on the field, blocking effect, etc? It would be interesting if there was actual data to support the statement just because it's such a complex thing to evaluate.

Like, we all know Kittle is incredible at blocking, not many TEs are expected to take top pass rushing ends on by themselves but Kittle is. But I've never seen him listed at the top in that specific skill.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Heroism:
He's going to be the starting XWR this year until BA gets back, so if he has another season like last year at that spot, he's going to want starting XWR money. I don't see him signing a new deal here.

We all love JJ, but he's not an elite WR. He's one of those good-to-great-at-times fringe players that is going to get massively overpaid by some team in free agency. These are the type of players good organizations let walk in free agency and replace through the draft. Hopefully, one of the young guys can contribute and establish themselves as a fixture of the future.

There are some intangibles that he offers that you can't easily find. With that said, you are right- I can see a team paying him 20 million which we will not. The good news is we do a pretty solid job developing receivers but I want a Jennings that will block someone into the Gatorade. I wonder If we are losing that identity (bruiser bullies on the edges).

Of course losing Purdy would be worse but how much would Purdy suffer if Jennings wasn't making all those 1st down catches. I know CMC will be back but will he make it through an entire season.

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i'm not a big data guy, so i can't speak on that. i just watch as many nfl games as i can including all the 49er games, and i go off what i see. i think it would be hard to watch a lot of nfl football and 49er football, and not understand JJ is a big asset as a physical WR who blocks his tail off. data is a lil bit fake if you ask me. i've actually worked in that industry, and it's pretty subjective stuff. it's ppl watching the games, and having some in house standard of what a effective block is or is not. so it's just watching ball at the end of the day, you are just letting other ppl making informative decisions, rather than making them yourself. that's just my take on data in football.

And that's why I asked the question the way I did. No question he's a very good blocker for a WR. I can see that. The issue is where does "best" come from? Did someone do an in depth analysis of every WR and the blocking chances they get, who they are blocking, where the block is happening on the field, blocking effect, etc? It would be interesting if there was actual data to support the statement just because it's such a complex thing to evaluate.

Like, we all know Kittle is incredible at blocking, not many TEs are expected to take top pass rushing ends on by themselves but Kittle is. But I've never seen him listed at the top in that specific skill.

fair enough. i don't know where best comes from, and that would be hard or subjective to determine. to me being elite or very strong in an area is good enough. guys getting blocked thru the endzone may have an opinion on it. not that he's the best, but that he's a guy you gotta watch out for, if you are on the other side. it's infectious also. when the 49ers roll tape during the week, an JJ is blocking like that, you can't be showing low effort, when he's showing high effort. that would stand out on tape. so you have to match his level if you don't want to get called out. it helps the team in a lot of ways. you are right tho it's a bit nebulous who the 'best' is, if there even is a best. maybe there's just a group of guys who are doing it about as high level as you can do, without a singular best.

Extend him.

Originally posted by fropwns:
Extend him.