"3rd and Jauan" Jennings l WR Tennessee

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jays9ers:
What if.. We gave him another 2 year extension.. 25mil - - 15 guarantee

He's gonna want to get paid, especially if he's got close to another 1k season.

FA is so damn overpriced for players, that he will get a nice pay. Remember a couple years ago when Christian Kirk got that ridiculous contract for basically having one decent season?

He can easily get a 3-4 year deal worth between 20-25mil a year and nice guarantee.

Yup he's about to be 28 so he is looking to get paid, if he has a 1k+ season I can see a team giving him 20+ a year right now I think his value is 14-17M. Do you extend him now at a 3 year 60M?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i push back on paying jennings big money. the skill that you pay money for is the ability to separate or uncover. that's why we paid BA. Jennings is a dawg, who will hand fight ppl and run block his tail off, and make catches with a DB on him. he's not a guy you pay huge money to. maybe pay him WR3 or even WR2 type money. but draw the line, he's not WR1 money, cuz he lacks that critical skill of always being open. it can get exponentially harder on the QB the more guys you have that are covered up when he drops back. or exponentially easier, if you have guys uncovering all over the place (see Goff). this guy is kinda like a FB mentality at WR.

According to the head coach, Jennings is the best separator on the team.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He wouldn't want to sign it. But the team would is the point. Of course he can make more after next year. Because he has a strong chance to get above 1,000 + yards and 7 + TD's. I think that's realistic.

That's the question isn't it. If Aiyuk comes back after 3 games and balls out, and Pearsall, Robinson, Cowing, Watkins, Bergen, etc are good then Jennings doesn't come close to 1000.

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He wouldn't want to sign it. But the team would is the point. Of course he can make more after next year. Because he has a strong chance to get above 1,000 + yards and 7 + TD's. I think that's realistic.

That's the question isn't it. If Aiyuk comes back after 3 games and balls out, and Pearsall, Robinson, Cowing, Watkins, Bergen, etc are good then Jennings doesn't come close to 1000.

Aiyuk could take 2 years to fully come back. Pearsall hasn't proven anything yet. Cowing hasn't done anything. Watkins is a rookie and we know how much Kyle loves that.

It could easily be Jennings again. I think he's our most reliable guy at this point.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Aiyuk could take 2 years to fully come back. Pearsall hasn't proven anything yet. Cowing hasn't done anything. Watkins is a rookie and we know how much Kyle loves that.

It could easily be Jennings again. I think he's our most reliable guy at this point.

I don't disagree, but it's also entirely possible Jennings this coming year ends up with half the catches.

Of course there is the issue where Kyle never seems to be able to use his fast WRs which removes Cowing and Watkins from relevance. :)

I don't want to lose JJ but I'd understand. Some team will give him a phat payday to be their second - he's an excellent run blocker.

there is the slight chance we can offer him a respectable salary and he takes it but I think he will go elsewhere. Somewhere like the pats - where they need guys and run blockers.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
He wouldn't want to sign it. But the team would is the point. Of course he can make more after next year. Because he has a strong chance to get above 1,000 + yards and 7 + TD's. I think that's realistic.

That's the question isn't it. If Aiyuk comes back after 3 games and balls out, and Pearsall, Robinson, Cowing, Watkins, Bergen, etc are good then Jennings doesn't come close to 1000.

Aiyuk could take 2 years to fully come back. Pearsall hasn't proven anything yet. Cowing hasn't done anything. Watkins is a rookie and we know how much Kyle loves that.

It could easily be Jennings again. I think he's our most reliable guy at this point.

IMO I think Kittle and Ricky are gonna get a lot more targets this yr, toss in a healthy CMC.

Jennings is a dog and would love for him to be here long-term. I just don't see him taking the cash that SF is probably offering. His targets aren't gonna go up here going forward.

As far as BA goes, don't be shocked if he's out there week 1. I don't think this is gonna be a lost yr for him, might not be a massive output, but he will more than likely be playing this yr.

Next year it does look like JJ and McKivitz are going to be gone just like most of us knew that Greenlaw and Hufanga and Banks were going to be gone this year. It sucks because JJ is such a good player and the best run blocker in the league

Originally posted by elguapo:
Next year it does look like JJ and McKivitz are going to be gone just like most of us knew that Greenlaw and Hufanga and Banks were going to be gone this year. It sucks because JJ is such a good player and the best run blocker in the league

They can't afford to lose a reloable reciever like Jennings. He's not a game breaker but he knows where the first down marker is. He consistently keeps drives alive. If they can't afford to keep him next year because they paid too much for Brock then that's their mistake.

This is what i've been talkng about with the high QB salaries. Teams paying so much that they have trouble keeping the skill players to support him. It's not just the 49ers. Even the best QB needs good weapons or he's going to struggle. You start losing a guy here and and guy there and pretty soon you have a team with 5 superstars and no depth.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i push back on paying jennings big money. the skill that you pay money for is the ability to separate or uncover. that's why we paid BA. Jennings is a dawg, who will hand fight ppl and run block his tail off, and make catches with a DB on him. he's not a guy you pay huge money to. maybe pay him WR3 or even WR2 type money. but draw the line, he's not WR1 money, cuz he lacks that critical skill of always being open. it can get exponentially harder on the QB the more guys you have that are covered up when he drops back. or exponentially easier, if you have guys uncovering all over the place (see Goff). this guy is kinda like a FB mentality at WR.

According to the head coach, Jennings is the best separator on the team.

he's hyping the man up. coaches do that. harbaugh said that crabtree has the best pair of hands in league history. something along those lines. it happens.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i push back on paying jennings big money. the skill that you pay money for is the ability to separate or uncover. that's why we paid BA. Jennings is a dawg, who will hand fight ppl and run block his tail off, and make catches with a DB on him. he's not a guy you pay huge money to. maybe pay him WR3 or even WR2 type money. but draw the line, he's not WR1 money, cuz he lacks that critical skill of always being open. it can get exponentially harder on the QB the more guys you have that are covered up when he drops back. or exponentially easier, if you have guys uncovering all over the place (see Goff). this guy is kinda like a FB mentality at WR.

According to the head coach, Jennings is the best separator on the team.

he's hyping the man up. coaches do that. harbaugh said that crabtree has the best pair of hands in league history. something along those lines. it happens.

... and watch SHANNY stay away form J1 all year long so that we can have the leverage regarding his contract. ..

Originally posted by 9moon:
... and watch SHANNY stay away form J1 all year long so that we can have the leverage regarding his contract. ..

i think shanny loves J1 as you call him. as a coach with the no block no rock mindset, this guy blocks on a level that you simply can't exceed. so that showing up on film endears him to shanny you better believe it.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Next year it does look like JJ and McKivitz are going to be gone just like most of us knew that Greenlaw and Hufanga and Banks were going to be gone this year. It sucks because JJ is such a good player and the best run blocker in the league

They can't afford to lose a reloable reciever like Jennings. He's not a game breaker but he knows where the first down marker is. He consistently keeps drives alive. If they can't afford to keep him next year because they paid too much for Brock then that's their mistake.

This is what i've been talkng about with the high QB salaries. Teams paying so much that they have trouble keeping the skill players to support him. It's not just the 49ers. Even the best QB needs good weapons or he's going to struggle. You start losing a guy here and and guy there and pretty soon you have a team with 5 superstars and no depth.

They can more easily get over losing Jennings than Purdy.

I'd support the idea that there are max contract tiers ... like every team can have 3 players who make 10% of the cap and 3 who make 7% and nobody else can make more than 5% of the cap.

And as long as I'm re-writing the CBA I'd like to make the practice squad part of the regular roster, and make players who have over 5 years of service get a 20% bonus that does not count against the cap.

Originally posted by Heroism:
He's going to be the starting XWR this year until BA gets back, so if he has another season like last year at that spot, he's going to want starting XWR money. I don't see him signing a new deal here.

We all love JJ, but he's not an elite WR. He's one of those good-to-great-at-times fringe players that is going to get massively overpaid by some team in free agency. These are the type of players good organizations let walk in free agency and replace through the draft. Hopefully, one of the young guys can contribute and establish themselves as a fixture of the future.

There are some intangibles that he offers that you can't easily find. With that said, you are right- I can see a team paying him 20 million which we will not. The good news is we do a pretty solid job developing receivers but I want a Jennings that will block someone into the Gatorade. I wonder If we are losing that identity (bruiser bullies on the edges).

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i push back on paying jennings big money. the skill that you pay money for is the ability to separate or uncover. that's why we paid BA. Jennings is a dawg, who will hand fight ppl and run block his tail off, and make catches with a DB on him. he's not a guy you pay huge money to. maybe pay him WR3 or even WR2 type money. but draw the line, he's not WR1 money, cuz he lacks that critical skill of always being open. it can get exponentially harder on the QB the more guys you have that are covered up when he drops back. or exponentially easier, if you have guys uncovering all over the place (see Goff). this guy is kinda like a FB mentality at WR.

According to the head coach, Jennings is the best separator on the team.

he's hyping the man up. coaches do that. harbaugh said that crabtree has the best pair of hands in league history. something along those lines. it happens.

Maybe, but he said it three years ago. So I don't know why he would've been blowing smoke about our third option.