All Pro OT Trent Williams

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Re-sign Trent, figure out whatever it was that happened to McGlinchey, get a C that can stay healthy and we're in a reasonable spot.

I'd take that with a QB upgrade.

That's a lot to figure out in one off season though.

Paying TW 24m a year removes any chance to resign our existing players, forget about upgrading anything

Originally posted by RedGoldSquatch:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Re-sign Trent, figure out whatever it was that happened to McGlinchey, get a C that can stay healthy and we're in a reasonable spot.

I'd take that with a QB upgrade.

That's a lot to figure out in one off season though.

Paying TW 24m a year removes any chance to resign our existing players, forget about upgrading anything

He wouldn't be getting paid 24mil year one. No chance.

McGlinchey already on the roster, no issue there.

There are QB's who cost less than what we're paying next year. Money saved.

C is the stumbling block, but yes it's possible. Not easy, but possible.

And that's with the cap at it's absolute floor of 175mil. Could possibly be more still.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by RedGoldSquatch:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Re-sign Trent, figure out whatever it was that happened to McGlinchey, get a C that can stay healthy and we're in a reasonable spot.

I'd take that with a QB upgrade.

That's a lot to figure out in one off season though.

Paying TW 24m a year removes any chance to resign our existing players, forget about upgrading anything

He wouldn't be getting paid 24mil year one. No chance.

McGlinchey already on the roster, no issue there.

There are QB's who cost less than what we're paying next year. Money saved.

C is the stumbling block, but yes it's possible. Not easy, but possible.

And that's with the cap at it's absolute floor of 175mil. Could possibly be more still.

What QBs are you talking about?
And yes, I think TW gets over 20m a year with 23 being about that number. If not then it seems he isn't worth what he thinks and maybe it makes sense to bring him back

Originally posted by RedGoldSquatch:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by RedGoldSquatch:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Re-sign Trent, figure out whatever it was that happened to McGlinchey, get a C that can stay healthy and we're in a reasonable spot.

I'd take that with a QB upgrade.

That's a lot to figure out in one off season though.

Paying TW 24m a year removes any chance to resign our existing players, forget about upgrading anything

He wouldn't be getting paid 24mil year one. No chance.

McGlinchey already on the roster, no issue there.

There are QB's who cost less than what we're paying next year. Money saved.

C is the stumbling block, but yes it's possible. Not easy, but possible.

And that's with the cap at it's absolute floor of 175mil. Could possibly be more still.

What QBs are you talking about?
And yes, I think TW gets over 20m a year with 23 being about that number. If not then it seems he isn't worth what he thinks and maybe it makes sense to bring him back

His total contract will be in that 23mil a year range but his first year, 2021, is more likely to be in that 19-20mil range if he stays with us.

Just about any QB that's been talked about whether it's a vet or rookie would save us money.

No idea who Kyle likes, but there are options to move on and save money if there's a guy Kyle likes more than Jimmy.

I think Trent would take 20m per year. The issue must be, as usual, with guaranteed money. Since he is north of his 30s and has had his own injury history, it'd be risky to give him around 60m guaranteed but I believe that's what he's looking for. Then what happens if he retires or gets hurt? We saw the two higuest paid LT in Bakthiari and Stanley both got hurt and out for the playoffs.
I want Trent back, but I guess either the Jets or Jags could pay a boatload of cash for him to block for the rookie QB they'll draft.
If Trent walks then you'd have to spend the draft capital to bring Rashawn Slater and a Center in round 2. You may have no choice but to keep Jimmy G for another year. No matter if you bring Watson, draft a rookie or keep Jimmy. The OL has to improve drastically. Perhaps they could bring Alejandro Villanueva for 15m per year or so, or Taylor Moton from the Panthers. Could even bring Matt Feiler to bring competition to Mike for the RT position.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by RedGoldSquatch:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Let Trent Williams go, get a 3rd rd compensation pick and save $23 million.
Sign a cheaper vet FA tackle for $8-10 mil and draft a good OT, OG, C

This except now you have the option of free agency to improve your OL as well.

We have 1 CB signed next year. And an injury prone QB, and the OL is also not good. Letting TW walkwould be a really dumb move.

This. I'm wondering if the same people who are in favor with letting Trent walk criticized the front office for trading Buckner.

I did not. I don't know why they paid Armstead but I didn't mind trading away Buckner. DTs aren't worth 20M.

Great point.
I miss Buckner, he was a great player for us, and he did have pass rushing skills from the inside, so he wasn't your run of the mill DT. But his price was not something this organization could handle, for sure. I'd pay him his asking price if he was an Edge rusher like Bosa, but not the DT position, as you said.

DBuck was so reliable and durable though. Instead we draft a top DL(Kinlaw) who had injury red flags, we pick up a slew of DLinemen throughout the year trying to plug the holes. And we overpaid Armstead. We could have kept Buck found someone instead of Armstead, and not sign Ansah, Jordan, and Willis. Ford is part of this crapshoot too. We're playing him decent $$ for nothing and he's tied up our wallet.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

A franchise LT is not the key to a successful OL. It is having quality players at each position on the OL


If we have plenty of cap space and can sign TW without sacrificing the rest of the OL unit and more broadly other important positional needs then go for it.

I dont think we have the cap space to do it all.

A franchise LT is the key to protecting a QB's blind side. Its the most important part of the OL. You want Justin Skule and McGlinchey at T? Any QB we have will be running for his life.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
A franchise LT is not the key to a successful OL. It is having quality players at each position on the OL

If we have plenty of cap space and can sign TW without sacrificing the rest of the OL unit and more broadly other important positional needs then go for it.

I dont think we have the cap space to do it all.

A franchise LT is the key to protecting a QB's blind side. Its the most important part of the OL. You want Justin Skule and McGlinchey at T? Any QB we have will be running for his life.

This. As bad as our O-line is at PP, it can get a lot worse without a good LT.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
I think Trent would take 20m per year. The issue must be, as usual, with guaranteed money. Since he is north of his 30s and has had his own injury history, it'd be risky to give him around 60m guaranteed but I believe that's what he's looking for. Then what happens if he retires or gets hurt? We saw the two higuest paid LT in Bakthiari and Stanley both got hurt and out for the playoffs.
I want Trent back, but I guess either the Jets or Jags could pay a boatload of cash for him to block for the rookie QB they'll draft.
If Trent walks then you'd have to spend the draft capital to bring Rashawn Slater and a Center in round 2. You may have no choice but to keep Jimmy G for another year. No matter if you bring Watson, draft a rookie or keep Jimmy. The OL has to improve drastically. Perhaps they could bring Alejandro Villanueva for 15m per year or so, or Taylor Moton from the Panthers. Could even bring Matt Feiler to bring competition to Mike for the RT position.

Trent misses a couple of games here and there, but his injury history isn't so bad that I'm thinking this is Jonas Jennings 2.0. I'm thinking sign Trent, draft Rashawn Slater at 12, and bring in a vet at center (Alex Mack). Can draft another C/G in the 3rd to compete and we should have a pretty formidable O-line. Even if we go with the Villanueva option, I'd still the above plan of revamping the O-line. We have veterans ready to compete now as well as guys being groomed to step in down the road.

So, Trent Williams is worth 25 Million American Dollars … asking for a friend
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get out of here, this dude was getting blasted half the year. let some other team over pay him.

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

get out of here, this dude was getting blasted half the year. let some other team over pay him.

Show me this

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Re-sign Trent, figure out whatever it was that happened to McGlinchey, get a C that can stay healthy and we're in a reasonable spot.

I'd take that with a QB upgrade.

That's a lot to figure out in one off season though.

Don't forget RG either. And we need another blocking TE too...maybe a FB. All play big parts in this unit pass protection. Tomlinson and McGlinchey are who they are in pass protection (poor) but neither are going anywhere so like you said, focus on LT, C and RG and a RT of the future, with vigor. Treat it like the DL now.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Re-sign Trent, figure out whatever it was that happened to McGlinchey, get a C that can stay healthy and we're in a reasonable spot.

I'd take that with a QB upgrade.

That's a lot to figure out in one off season though.

Don't forget RG either. And we need another blocking TE too...maybe a FB. All play big parts in this unit pass protection. Tomlinson and McGlinchey are who they are in pass protection (poor) but neither are going anywhere so like you said, focus on LT, C and RG and a RT of the future, with vigor. Treat it like the DL now.

I'm not sure where our RG is going to come from unless we draft one (no idea what the class is looking like). Trent is the priority, Kyle seems to prefer established C's. I don't see us spending on 3 OL positions in FA so that leaves the draft to get our RG.

Hoping we find a way to keep Juice, or at least have a viable backup plan. Would hate to see Kittle be forced into even more blocking situations because we have no succession plan. Need him receiving more than blocking.

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

get out of here, this dude was getting blasted half the year. let some other team over pay him.

Show me this

Eagles game

Originally posted by pdfortune:

Originally posted by illinois9er:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

get out of here, this dude was getting blasted half the year. let some other team over pay him.

Show me this

Eagles game

That's one game, need 7 more other games.