All Pro OT Trent Williams

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by maxsmart:
Let Trent Williams go, get a 3rd rd compensation pick and save $23 million.
Sign a cheaper vet FA tackle for $8-10 mil and draft a good OT, OG, C

This except now you have the option of free agency to improve your OL as well.

We have 1 CB signed next year. And an injury prone QB, and the OL is also not good. Letting TW walkwould be a really dumb move.

This. I'm wondering if the same people who are in favor with letting Trent walk criticized the front office for trading Buckner.

Originally posted by TheGore49er:

We have 1 CB signed next year. And an injury prone QB, and the OL is also not good. Letting TW walkwould be a really dumb move.

Agree CB is a huge hole and we will need money to fill those holes. We also have huge holes and lack of depth on the OL. TW is too much money at 33 years old when the rest of the line stunk. I would much rather improve all OL positions than just LT.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

If they going to go the route of letting Trent walk, then I hope they make up for it by signing a better than average tackle and center. Do not, do not, do not go into this season with out brittle QB behind some O-line that would give our lines of 2015 and 2016 a run for their money. Seems he's determined to hit the market, so we need to just go ahead and lock everyone else down- Hyder, Verrett, Mosely, and Williams.

Yep and I would also add RT in the mix to be upgraded. At least a viable option to push McWiff.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
If they going to go the route of letting Trent walk, then I hope they make up for it by signing a better than average tackle and center. Do not, do not, do not go into this season with out brittle QB behind some O-line that would give our lines of 2015 and 2016 a run for their money. Seems he's determined to hit the market, so we need to just go ahead and lock everyone else down- Hyder, Verrett, Mosely, and Williams.

Yep and I would also add RT in the mix to be upgraded. At least a viable option to push McWiff.

Move Brunskill back to RT. We don't have the capital to take a tackle that can legitimately push MM. Brunskill can at least threaten MM and knows the offense. I'm still holding out hope that we can sign Trent Williams, then MM, Brunskill, and possibly Justin Skule and Shon Coleman battle for the RT spot. I know the latter have only played LT, but looking for an open competition.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Move Brunskill back to RT. We don't have the capital to take a tackle that can legitimately push MM. Brunskill can at least threaten MM and knows the offense. I'm still holding out hope that we can sign Trent Williams, then MM, Brunskill, and possibly Justin Skule and Shon Coleman battle for the RT spot. I know the latter have only played LT, but looking for an open competition.

Brilliant suggestion.

It's looking like Trent wants $24 M to set the market during a year when the salary cap will go down. It may be wait and see. This changes out draft strategy. Pick a top OL early, or wait until RD 2 and draft one. I heard this years class is deep ?

I'm still not ruling out we draft QB early and let a veteran QB take a pounding with our new undeveloped line.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Move Brunskill back to RT. We don't have the capital to take a tackle that can legitimately push MM. Brunskill can at least threaten MM and knows the offense. I'm still holding out hope that we can sign Trent Williams, then MM, Brunskill, and possibly Justin Skule and Shon Coleman battle for the RT spot. I know the latter have only played LT, but looking for an open competition.

Not sure KS has confidence in Brunskill as a starter. If he can run block with quality and improve pass protection at the position then yes but this never happened all year. Open competition is a must to push starters and provide good depth. No idea on Coleman. He has not played a snap in two years.

I understand it's a business but I can't help but feel sour over this. We've shown nothing but love and support for him and I feel it's an unwritten rule to return that with some loyalty. Every other situation where you see a high-end player leave it's because of some sort of fractured relationship with the team. But we trade for him, support him, praise him, show nothing but love for him and he does this? f**k him. I don't want those types of guys. It's like having to compete for your wife. Shouldn't have to. Let him walk, tell the world how disappointed you are in him and then use the money elsewhere.

This guys not getting 23mil a year in a reduced cap season. Relax.

Originally posted by stefano89:

This guys not getting 23mil a year in a reduced cap season. Relax.

The cap will go back up. It's obvious the hit in 2021 would be low, but his avg over the life of contract absolutely will be $20m+

The only way i see us signing back Trent is if we draft a qb and trade Jimmy g.. that way we have our qb on the rookie contract and can afford to sign him without handicapping our self to not being able to improve in other positions.. lynch believes in not paying big money and replacing them with first round rookies for example we drafted mcglinchy and didn't resign Trent brown and drafted kinlaw and traded defo cuz he knew defo wanted big time money next year.. lynch will spend money on guys but not big time top notch can't turn down money and the way it looks is Trent Williams wants one of those contracts.. so that makes me believe hes a goner and we replace him with our first rounder.. or like I said we pay Trent and draft a qb.. that's the thought process lynch and shanahans are gonna go by I believe

Originally posted by stefano89:
This guys not getting 23mil a year in a reduced cap season. Relax.

David Bakhtiari just did.

Originally posted by Heroism:

David Bakhtiari just did.

Let him walk then. No OL position is worth that much.

Originally posted by stefano89:

Originally posted by Heroism:

David Bakhtiari just did.

Let him walk then. No OL position is worth that much.

If the dudes smart he'd take a deal with a team that can win a SB. But if his priority is money than he can go to a team like the jets or the jags just so he can make 3 mil more a year

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by stefano89:

This guys not getting 23mil a year in a reduced cap season. Relax.

David Bakhtiari just did.

And it's a good starting point to get an idea on what it will cost us.

Bakhtiari doesn't actually get 23mil until 2023. Before then it's 20 mil for 2021 and 2022.

2024 it's 27mil but by then most of the guaranteed cash is used up and restructuring is possible or cutting if no longer performing.

We'll do something similar. I'd guess it will cost us 19-20mil on next year's cap even if the contract is 23-24mil a year overall.

Originally posted by stefano89:

Originally posted by Heroism:

David Bakhtiari just did.

Let him walk then. No OL position is worth that much.

There are other big contracts coming up and to have that much money tied up in one OL position for a player over 30 doesn't make much sense.