Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by krizay:
BUT they go hand and hand. 10 of the top 11 WRs in APY is also top 11 in GTD cash.

I just don't understand why people keep trying to steer that conversation to GTD money.

Originally posted by okdkid:
Because if it's not gtd it doesn't matter.

They can give him $50m in year 5 of this deal if it's non gtd to bump up his APY. But they'd cut his ass before pay day and he'd never see a dime of it. Players want gtd money.

APY is a fan number.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yes more total cash usually means more gtd $. No one is handing out FGTD contracts to WRs.

the point is folks are using APY numbers to determine worth of a player. $26 vs $28 vs $30.

For example when Hill signed his first deal in Miami…his final year of the contract was basically a void year, that was used to inflate his APY to go from $25 million per year to $30 million per year. It's a fake number…yet everyone said his APY is $30M.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by captveg:
$28m a year seems like a win-win for Aiyuk/SF at this point, IMO. A little higher than SF wanted ($26m), a little lower than Aiyuk was reportedly trying to get ($30-32m), but on a top tier team he fits really well with. Make it happen, guys.

Of course, $28m in CA is less than $28m in other less taxed states, so that probably factors in.

It would be nice if there was a way to make the cap number variable to after state tax rates were accounted for to make it more equal, but that's never gonna happen.

It's a process that takes a while. I think both sides are very close, and the fact that the 49ers allowed Aiyuk to talk to other teams helped a ton for each side to get on the same page with regards to valuation. I have a bit more hope 49ers and Aiyuk can come to an agreement - but probably takes a couple more days/weeks before this is resolved. We shall see.

True. $130m overall contract vs. $140m overall contract just doesn't seem too far to bridge, but what do I know.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Source: The #Patriots are releasing WR JuJu Smith-Schuster.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) August 9, 2024

Originally posted by miked1978:
Also something to consider is state taxes. If looking at it correctly PA only gets taxed 3% on income compared to 13% in CA ???

When your talking 26 mill from SF vs 28 mill from Pitt its a lot more than that 2 million due to taxes.
__PRESENT__PRESENT

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Source: The #Patriots are releasing WR JuJu Smith-Schuster.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) August 9, 2024

I bet they've traded for another receiver. Obviously not Aiyuk though.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Source: The #Patriots are releasing WR JuJu Smith-Schuster.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) August 9, 2024

I bet they've traded for another receiver. Obviously not Aiyuk though.

I'll take Juju over Robbie Chosen or whatever his name is

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You don't send away a top player just because he "wants to." This is just so dumb.

* Play on 5th year option.

* Franchise Tag 6th year.

* Two 1st round picks or get out of here. Play hardball. Or a star player and a 2nd.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You don't send away a top player just because he "wants to." This is just so dumb.

* Play on 5th year option.

* Franchise Tag 6th year.

* Two 1st round picks or get out of here. Play hardball. Or a star player and a 2nd.

Assuming he's traded, I'd be ok with two day 2 picks. But I don't think he's leaving the team. I would love two number 1 picks, but that's (I think) quarterback value territory and I don't see any team in the NFL giving up that kind of draft capital for Aiyuk. I defer to the guys like NY85 who are the draft guru's on these boards.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by miked1978:
Also something to consider is state taxes. If looking at it correctly PA only gets taxed 3% on income compared to 13% in CA ???

When your talking 26 mill from SF vs 28 mill from Pitt its a lot more than that 2 million due to taxes.
__PRESENT__PRESENT

Players also get taxed based on where they play that week, not where their home team is (unless it's a home game).

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You don't send away a top player just because he "wants to." This is just so dumb.

* Play on 5th year option.

* Franchise Tag 6th year.

* Two 1st round picks or get out of here. Play hardball. Or a star player and a 2nd.

Assuming he's traded, I'd be ok with two day 2 picks. But I don't think he's leaving the team. I would love two number 1 picks, but that's (I think) quarterback value territory and I don't see any team in the NFL giving up that kind of draft capital for Aiyuk. I defer to the guys like NY85 who are the draft guru's on these boards.

OBJ and Adams didn't get two 1sts but they got close. But yeah, two 1sts is typically limited to just QB and star edge rusher trades.

Actually, Jalen Ramsey is a corner and he netted two 1sts; Jamaal Adams is a safety and he netted two 1sts. So it's possible.