Originally posted by Jakemall:
Why? He's on contract for 14m.
With 20M he'll play every game because if we only give him 14 he might play only the second half of the season.
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Originally posted by Jakemall:
Why? He's on contract for 14m.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:Bosa is different
Bosa got his bread last year and dudes celebrated but now that it's time they get paid we can see the ramifications of that decision
Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Tbf if aiyuk turned down 30+ from NE and is willing to take 28 from us… I would feel obligated to apologize for every disparaging remark I've made about him over the last few days.
i know, obviously, that I don't know enough about this situation to form a coherent opinion… doesn't stop me from running my yap 🤣
(slowly turns attention to the lynch thread to continue uninformed yapping)
Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
This! If i'm them, i'm not letting him go under any circumstances. I GUESS two first rounders; but even as insane as that offer is (which is why no one would do it), it doesn't help them this year and drafting is a crapshoot. We have a proven all pro under contract.
Take the extension we give you or play your year out. Sorry dude. Don't be a b***h.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Webster just redefined "clusterf**k", and we are witnessing it.
All because the team didnt sign him before the WR market exploded.
Fixed.
lol what
If we made a good offer to him before the wide receiver market exploded, we would have already locked him up.
Instead, he sees players like Amon St. Brown getting $30M and clear #2 WRs like Devonta Smith getting $25M a year, and we have people wondering why he wont sign for $26M.
It's not some new practice for players who are due for an extension to wait til the top player(Jefferson) gets his deal done to have an idea what the ceiling is. So unless you think the FO could force Aiyuk unto signing it's all just random complaints trying to throw dirt on the FO.
Amon St. Brown
Devonta Smith
AJ Brown
Michael Pittman
Jaylen Waddle
Nico Collins
All of those WRs signed extensions prior (in some cases months prior) to Justin Jefferson signing his contract. You are making it sound like me saying that we should have handled Aiyuk's extension prior to the WR market exploding was me advocating something that is never done.
And you say I am making random complaints about the FO.....are you implying that the Front Office deserves no blame for how this was handled?
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
If BA wanted $28M and the front office offered him $26M months ago and didnt budge, this entire ordeal could have been completely avoided. Just give him the damn $28M.
What are we doing here? Its 2 freakin million dollars, and the cap goes up every year.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Heroism:
"Aiyuk would not be in that category…"@gregcosell explains why he doesn't see the 49ers WR as a top 4-5 player at his position: pic.twitter.com/Tnm1QSiI18
— Ross Tucker Podcast (@RossTuckerPod) August 8, 2024
I like Cosell, but if he is implying that because he isnt a top 4-5 WR, he shouldnt be paid, then his logic is flawed. Look at the top 4-5 QBs in the league. Those are the top 4-5 QBs in terms of salary.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
So how do you know they didn't make him a good offer?
Reportedly it was $26 per yr (which means nothing) apparently via through his personnel WR coach Houshmandzadeh, he's willing to take $28M per.
That's waddle/moore money. SF from what we've heard hasn't offered anything since May, hopefully that's changed
And I would take BA over both of them.
That's what he should be getting paid and SF should be willing to give him a little more and add some fluff to boost up that APY.
Originally posted by jrouter4949:
Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
This! If i'm them, i'm not letting him go under any circumstances. I GUESS two first rounders; but even as insane as that offer is (which is why no one would do it), it doesn't help them this year and drafting is a crapshoot. We have a proven all pro under contract.
Take the extension we give you or play your year out. Sorry dude. Don't be a b***h.
Woow I wonder would you tell that to his face really would you? I see a lot of you tough guys calling BA a b***h ...keyboard tough guys it easy to say this and that but if you were in his shoes I`m quite sure the crap spewing out of your mouths would not be how you would deal with the contract negotiation
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Why? He's on contract for 14m.
With 20M he'll play every game because if we only give him 14 he might play only the second half of the season.
Originally posted by Monsterniner:He would lose more than just half his 14m if he did that. He will play. Camp is a different question.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Why? He's on contract for 14m.
With 20M he'll play every game because if we only give him 14 he might play only the second half of the season.
Originally posted by RDB4216:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
If BA wanted $28M and the front office offered him $26M months ago and didnt budge, this entire ordeal could have been completely avoided. Just give him the damn $28M.
What are we doing here? Its 2 freakin million dollars, and the cap goes up every year.
I HIGHLY doubt 28 was his number all along. Otherwise he wouldn't have waited until now to have his friend leak it. 28 "became" his number once he realized only the Patriots would pay that or more.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Actually there are 2 years out for the 4 year extension. 33m cap in 2026 and 41m cap in 2028. Hey if we can sign BA to a 4 year extension, that changes the mix a bit..but we haven't been doing more than 3 years.
Yes the risk is less. Let's run the numbers. Year 1: risk 14m vs 77m. Year two risk 22m vs 51m. Year three 28m vs 26m. ASB's number decreases as the guaranteed has been earned. BA's tags are independent and don't mean anything until the year of the tag.
Cap hit AND dead money are the two things we should be concerned with. Paying for a player that isn't on the team is pretty painful.
We can't really compare Deebo's contract. Situation was different and money was certainly different. If we pretend that BA gets a similar contract to ASB, even with a 4 year extension you have to sub in BA's current year of 14m which skews the numbers quite a bit. 14m with a 4m share of a signing bonus is still 18m on the 1st year cap. I suppose you could work it out so that BA took a salary hit on the first year of the extension, but I find that unlikely. Probably looking at 20m min. So that's 38m vs the current 36m. We're not even getting into dead money if BA doesn't continue to perform and we cut loose (highly improbable but needs to be considered).
