Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

You don't send away a top player just because he "wants to." This is just so dumb.

* Play on 5th year option.

* Franchise Tag 6th year.

* Two 1st round picks or get out of here. Play hardball. Or a star player and a 2nd.

Lombardi hit it on the head

leverage

49ers : we are the only way you can get paid this year because we ain't trading you for peanuts

BA : I am gonna sit out max amount of games and only collect $6M this year

Which is most feasible?

I think that Aiyuk will be playing for us this year and getting paid and the smart play is to work out a deal with us and get his bag and secure his family

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Lombardi hit it on the head

leverage

49ers : we are the only way you can get paid this year because we ain't trading you for peanuts

BA : I am gonna sit out max amount of games and only collect $6M this year

Which is most feasible?

I think that Aiyuk will be playing for us this year and getting paid and the smart play is to work out a deal with us and get his bag and secure his family

Aiyuk will probably play his minimum qualifying games with us. Whatever that is. Because we won't give him away for peanuts and we shouldn't. We hold a lot of leverage the next 2 years. The 5th year option. The potential to Franchise Tag for the 6th year. There is no reason to get pushed around by other teams or Aiyuk. We have to get a big haul here too. Or else take a hike.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO that DJ Moore deal is fair. Maybe a little bit more.

edit:

Brandon Aiyuk is willing to accept $28M per year on a long term contract, per @housh84

TJ Houshmandzadeh is Aiyuk's personal WR coach and hinted that on @957thegame just now. #FTTB pic.twitter.com/s0VIfmQXfi

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) August 9, 2024

Make it work SF

You and I agree 100

Saving face moment has arrived.

Originally posted by northoakland510:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
Sure, we can convert a $26m offer into a $28m apy offer by lowering the guarantee and keeping the apparent risk to the team the same. Don't know what he has been led to expect on that front.

I think the biggest problem now might be that Kyle has had enough. We've built a team of team players. Does Aiyuk still fit into our culture?

I would definately like to keep him for at least 1 year to get Ricky up to speed if he does. In that case, maybe the 5th year option is the best for us. Then when we trade him, the draft pick will come the same year, and if he wants the ball on his contract year, he's got to stay out of the dog house.

I still think this whole problem is Aiuyk is not being man enough to understand that being in Kyle's dog house his first two years is on him and not Kyle. Don't think it's going to work long term.

How are you questioning his man hood? Y'all go too far with stuff.

It sure doesn't pertain to the football field. I might well be wrong, but I just suspect his wanting out of here relates to resentment of being in Kyle's dog house early on. I just don't see another obvious reason. And yes, it is manly to say that was on me. Haven't heard it. If I missed it, please provide the quote.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
You don't send away a top player just because he "wants to." This is just so dumb.

* Play on 5th year option.

* Franchise Tag 6th year.

* Two 1st round picks or get out of here. Play hardball. Or a star player and a 2nd.

This! If i'm them, i'm not letting him go under any circumstances. I GUESS two first rounders; but even as insane as that offer is (which is why no one would do it), it doesn't help them this year and drafting is a crapshoot. We have a proven all pro under contract.

Take the extension we give you or play your year out. Sorry dude. Don't be a b***h.

Originally posted by fropwns:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO that DJ Moore deal is fair. Maybe a little bit more.

edit:

Brandon Aiyuk is willing to accept $28M per year on a long term contract, per @housh84

TJ Houshmandzadeh is Aiyuk's personal WR coach and hinted that on @957thegame just now. #FTTB pic.twitter.com/s0VIfmQXfi

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) August 9, 2024

Make it work SF

You and I agree 100

Saving face moment has arrived.

Ok if this is true there is no reason for the FO to not do it. 28 Mill is plenty fair.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Lombardi hit it on the head

leverage

49ers : we are the only way you can get paid this year because we ain't trading you for peanuts

BA : I am gonna sit out max amount of games and only collect $6M this year

Which is most feasible?

I think that Aiyuk will be playing for us this year and getting paid and the smart play is to work out a deal with us and get his bag and secure his family

Aiyuk will probably play his minimum qualifying games with us. Whatever that is. Because we won't give him away for peanuts and we shouldn't. We hold a lot of leverage the next 2 years. The 5th year option. The potential to Franchise Tag for the 6th year. There is no reason to get pushed around by other teams or Aiyuk. We have to get a big haul here too. Or else take a hike.

This is how i've always felt and why the weird rumors to acquiesce Brandon Aiyuk's demands seemed so off base.

WHY?! they have no reason to. They're not going to willingly make themselves worse or take an offer that doesn't make them BETTER to appease Aiyuk.

They know how good he is and the only incentive for a trade would be if the trade made them better than they are without Aiyuk...and none of those have happened.

If he holds out and plays minimum games, he's going to hurt himself and end up getting an offer that's nowhere near what he wants or could get at present.

The Niners have no incentive to give into BA's demands to get traded…unlesss it's 2 firsts which would be lol

BA wants to be a baby, then let him sit and hurt his own career.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Lombardi hit it on the head

leverage

49ers : we are the only way you can get paid this year because we ain't trading you for peanuts

BA : I am gonna sit out max amount of games and only collect $6M this year

Which is most feasible?

I think that Aiyuk will be playing for us this year and getting paid and the smart play is to work out a deal with us and get his bag and secure his family

And look like a malcontent and a problem thus hurting any future interest.

Originally posted by MucketyMuck:

Ok if this is true there is no reason for the FO to not do it. 28 Mill is plenty fair.

Maybe they don't think that BA is that good.
Maybe they would rather have a high pick plus Cortland Sutton at $13 mil per year

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Jakemall:
I don't expect him to leave. I think he'll be wearing red and gold. I think the 9ers will give a number between 26-28.

Yes, I get that the number means little when you can shove things around, but how else do you suggest discussing the topic? There has to be some sort of measuring stick even if it is flawed. Amon-Ra Brown's contract is 120m/4 years with 77m guaranteed.

I'm not saying we should tag BA. I'm saying that it is cheaper than 30m a year. Look even if we match Amon-Ra's contract that's 77m Locked in over 4 years. Vs 64m over 3. And the Tag guarantees are each year so if Amon-Ra has a career ending injury his team loses 77m. Using the current contract the only loss would be 14m. Then 22m. Then 28m. The risk is MUCH less. The non-guaranteed money still hits the cap, it just gets shifted around a bit..so even if the contract was set to be gentle upfront, 9ers still eventually pay for it.

If the only goal was to get talent on the cheap for a superbowl run, paying 14m then the 22m tag then using the last tag as trade bait would be the best option. There's all sorts of ramifications that would go with that play, but there it is.

I'm all for BA getting his payday...just not the one he thinks he should get. Not my money, but I think the 9ers are right on this one.

ASB has one yr where his cap hit is $30M. you're using a hallow metric to make a point there. No the risk isn't less because that cash is FGTD every yr from now until that 2nd tag. Plus you get no leverage to move any of that money around to make the cap work.

we as fans should only care about the cap hit. What they get in real money is what should matter for the players.

look I'm not saying don't tag him or whatever, I'm pointing out it's not really cheaper. If he signed an extension right now his cap hit would be less than $14M. His cap hit next yr wouldn't be large either. Go look at Deebo's contract

Actually there are 2 years out for the 4 year extension. 33m cap in 2026 and 41m cap in 2028. Hey if we can sign BA to a 4 year extension, that changes the mix a bit..but we haven't been doing more than 3 years.

Yes the risk is less. Let's run the numbers. Year 1: risk 14m vs 77m. Year two risk 22m vs 51m. Year three 28m vs 26m. ASB's number decreases as the guaranteed has been earned. BA's tags are independent and don't mean anything until the year of the tag.

Cap hit AND dead money are the two things we should be concerned with. Paying for a player that isn't on the team is pretty painful.

We can't really compare Deebo's contract. Situation was different and money was certainly different. If we pretend that BA gets a similar contract to ASB, even with a 4 year extension you have to sub in BA's current year of 14m which skews the numbers quite a bit. 14m with a 4m share of a signing bonus is still 18m on the 1st year cap. I suppose you could work it out so that BA took a salary hit on the first year of the extension, but I find that unlikely. Probably looking at 20m min. So that's 38m vs the current 36m. We're not even getting into dead money if BA doesn't continue to perform and we cut loose (highly improbable but needs to be considered).

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO that DJ Moore deal is fair. Maybe a little bit more.

edit:

Brandon Aiyuk is willing to accept $28M per year on a long term contract, per @housh84

TJ Houshmandzadeh is Aiyuk's personal WR coach and hinted that on @957thegame just now. #FTTB pic.twitter.com/s0VIfmQXfi

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) August 9, 2024

Make it work SF

If true, this should be done.

Just give him 20M for this season and let's see what happens next year.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Just give him 20M for this season and let's see what happens next year.

Why? He's on contract for 14m.