Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Aiyuk's contract situation should not affect free agency (the report is they will start talking new contract post FA). If he gets a new deal his cap hit for 2024 will come down and if he doesn't get a new deal he will be traded.

As much as I hate even considering this...if you can trade Aiyuk for a mid-1st round pick you can get a top tier OT to play RT and then take the best WR available at #31. Yes Aiyuk is not easily replaced but in this scenario we save a lot of $.

The team is far worse under this scenario. The other top offensive weapons have a lot of miles and/injuries on them. All for a little bit of cap relief. Totally not worth it.

Some people act like what if rookies are gonna be just as good or better. BA is just getting into his prime, you're paying him for the future not just what he's done.

we shouldn't be in the business of moving really good young talent. We're not a rebuilding team.

IMO 2025 is the year where we will have to say goodbye to some good older vets. Deebo/kittle/juice/AA, all those dudes will more than likely be playing their last yr in SF…unless they take some sort of pay cut.

These next two drafts are super important. Guys like BA are super important for 2024 and beyond.

Been a while since I've seen someone contradict themselves so thoroughly in one post 🤣🤣🤣.

we shouldn't move off of talent
next year we should move off talent

im messing with you. Of course I see your point. I disagree, but I understand what you're saying 👍🏻.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Aiyuk's contract situation should not affect free agency (the report is they will start talking new contract post FA). If he gets a new deal his cap hit for 2024 will come down and if he doesn't get a new deal he will be traded.

As much as I hate even considering this...if you can trade Aiyuk for a mid-1st round pick you can get a top tier OT to play RT and then take the best WR available at #31. Yes Aiyuk is not easily replaced but in this scenario we save a lot of $.

The team is far worse under this scenario. The other top offensive weapons have a lot of miles and/injuries on them. All for a little bit of cap relief. Totally not worth it.

Some people act like what if rookies are gonna be just as good or better. BA is just getting into his prime, you're paying him for the future not just what he's done.

we shouldn't be in the business of moving really good young talent. We're not a rebuilding team.

IMO 2025 is the year where we will have to say goodbye to some good older vets. Deebo/kittle/juice/AA, all those dudes will more than likely be playing their last yr in SF…unless they take some sort of pay cut.

These next two drafts are super important. Guys like BA are super important for 2024 and beyond.

Been a while since I've seen someone contradict themselves so thoroughly in one post 🤣🤣🤣.

we shouldn't move off of talent
next year we should move off talent

im messing with you. Of course I see your point. I disagree, but I understand what you're saying 👍🏻.

i think you should reread his post. there's no contradiction in keep young talent, move off old talent.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Aiyuk's contract situation should not affect free agency (the report is they will start talking new contract post FA). If he gets a new deal his cap hit for 2024 will come down and if he doesn't get a new deal he will be traded.

As much as I hate even considering this...if you can trade Aiyuk for a mid-1st round pick you can get a top tier OT to play RT and then take the best WR available at #31. Yes Aiyuk is not easily replaced but in this scenario we save a lot of $.

The team is far worse under this scenario. The other top offensive weapons have a lot of miles and/injuries on them. All for a little bit of cap relief. Totally not worth it.

Some people act like what if rookies are gonna be just as good or better. BA is just getting into his prime, you're paying him for the future not just what he's done.

we shouldn't be in the business of moving really good young talent. We're not a rebuilding team.

IMO 2025 is the year where we will have to say goodbye to some good older vets. Deebo/kittle/juice/AA, all those dudes will more than likely be playing their last yr in SF…unless they take some sort of pay cut.

These next two drafts are super important. Guys like BA are super important for 2024 and beyond.

Been a while since I've seen someone contradict themselves so thoroughly in one post 🤣🤣🤣.

we shouldn't move off of talent
next year we should move off talent

im messing with you. Of course I see your point. I disagree, but I understand what you're saying 👍🏻.

huh?

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Been a while since I've seen someone contradict themselves so thoroughly in one post 🤣🤣🤣.

we shouldn't move off of talent
next year we should move off talent

im messing with you. Of course I see your point. I disagree, but I understand what you're saying 👍🏻.

There's a massive difference between young talent that's ascending and older talent that's declining on bloated contracts. 😉

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Leathaface:
Aiyuk's contract situation should not affect free agency (the report is they will start talking new contract post FA). If he gets a new deal his cap hit for 2024 will come down and if he doesn't get a new deal he will be traded.

As much as I hate even considering this...if you can trade Aiyuk for a mid-1st round pick you can get a top tier OT to play RT and then take the best WR available at #31. Yes Aiyuk is not easily replaced but in this scenario we save a lot of $.

The team is far worse under this scenario. The other top offensive weapons have a lot of miles and/injuries on them. All for a little bit of cap relief. Totally not worth it.

Some people act like what if rookies are gonna be just as good or better. BA is just getting into his prime, you're paying him for the future not just what he's done.

we shouldn't be in the business of moving really good young talent. We're not a rebuilding team.

IMO 2025 is the year where we will have to say goodbye to some good older vets. Deebo/kittle/juice/AA, all those dudes will more than likely be playing their last yr in SF…unless they take some sort of pay cut.

These next two drafts are super important. Guys like BA are super important for 2024 and beyond.

Been a while since I've seen someone contradict themselves so thoroughly in one post 🤣🤣🤣.

we shouldn't move off of talent
next year we should move off talent

im messing with you. Of course I see your point. I disagree, but I understand what you're saying 👍🏻.

i think you should reread his post. there's no contradiction in keep young talent, move off old talent.

I think you should reread my post. Said clearly at the bottom "im messing with you, of course i see your point"

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Been a while since I've seen someone contradict themselves so thoroughly in one post 🤣🤣🤣.

we shouldn't move off of talent
next year we should move off talent

im messing with you. Of course I see your point. I disagree, but I understand what you're saying 👍🏻.

There's a massive difference between young talent that's ascending and older talent that's declining on bloated contracts. 😉

Agree 👍🏻

Still salty how his team/family acted after loss

Originally posted by JMC52:
Still salty how his team/family acted after loss

Why would tou be salty about that trivial crap? Them folks have no bearing on your life bro.

Who cares what his family said same thing happened with Deebo's brother posting same s**t, Deebo made the choice to stay & ultimately IMO BA stays IMO.

Originally posted by JMC52:
Still salty how his team/family acted after loss

This is just modern day negotiating. Scrub social media of team's logos, have family member/significant other make comments, etc. Its this era's script.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Been a while since I've seen someone contradict themselves so thoroughly in one post 🤣🤣🤣.

we shouldn't move off of talent
next year we should move off talent

im messing with you. Of course I see your point. I disagree, but I understand what you're saying 👍🏻.

There's a massive difference between young talent that's ascending and older talent that's declining on bloated contracts. 😉

Not just that, but there's just no way to keep them all. 2025 offseason going to be rough

AA
Mooney
Lenoir
Greenlaw
Huf
Purdy
Banks
BA (if we can't get a deal done this offseason)
Mitchell
Thomas

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Been a while since I've seen someone contradict themselves so thoroughly in one post 🤣🤣🤣.

we shouldn't move off of talent
next year we should move off talent

im messing with you. Of course I see your point. I disagree, but I understand what you're saying 👍🏻.

There's a massive difference between young talent that's ascending and older talent that's declining on bloated contracts. 😉

Not just that, but there's just no way to keep them all. 2025 offseason going to be rough

AA
Mooney
Lenoir
Greenlaw
Huf
Purdy
Banks
BA (if we can't get a deal done this offseason)
Mitchell
Thomas

Armstead, Dre, & Ward's deals all void after 2024, if signed to new deals, their pending dead money for 2025 goes away.

You can't keep everyone, guys like Lenoir, Ambry, Mitchell will likely be let to walk, Purdy isn't gonna be an issue, BA will get extended this offseason.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Been a while since I've seen someone contradict themselves so thoroughly in one post 🤣🤣🤣.

we shouldn't move off of talent
next year we should move off talent

im messing with you. Of course I see your point. I disagree, but I understand what you're saying 👍🏻.

There's a massive difference between young talent that's ascending and older talent that's declining on bloated contracts. 😉

Not just that, but there's just no way to keep them all. 2025 offseason going to be rough

AA
Mooney
Lenoir
Greenlaw
Huf
Purdy
Banks
BA (if we can't get a deal done this offseason)
Mitchell
Thomas

Armstead, Dre, & Ward's deals all void after 2024, if signed to new deals, their pending dead money for 2025 goes away.

You can't keep everyone, guys like Lenoir, Ambry, Mitchell will likely be let to walk, Purdy isn't gonna be an issue, BA will get extended this offseason.

I think we can keep Lenoir if he switches to full time slot corner, those guys aren't high paid CBs.

AA I would let walk, his injuries are starting to be a concern.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Armstead, Dre, & Ward's deals all void after 2024, if signed to new deals, their pending dead money for 2025 goes away.

The dead money doesn't really go away though right? I'm not 100% sure on how these void years work with extensions so you may need to explain it.

Lets take Dre for example.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/dre-greenlaw-29196/

It's showing a cap hit of 1,864,768 in 2025 and 932,384 in 2026. Those are two void years so he technically could not be on the team and count as dead cap.

To keep things simple, lets say we sign him to a contract extension for 2 yrs 10 million total with equal amounts each year. His cap hit would then be 6,864,768 in 2025 and 5,932,384 in 2026, correct?

Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
The dead money doesn't really go away though right? I'm not 100% sure on how these void years work with extensions so you may need to explain it.

Lets take Dre for example.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/dre-greenlaw-29196/

It's showing a cap hit of 1,864,768 in 2025 and 932,384 in 2026. Those are two void years so he technically could not be on the team and count as dead cap.

To keep things simple, lets say we sign him to a contract extension for 2 yrs 10 million total with equal amounts each year. His cap hit would then be 6,864,768 in 2025 and 5,932,384 in 2026, correct?

You would be correct