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Feb 23, 2024 at 12:00 PM
- lamontb
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I still don't understand why our FO doesn't extend guys early instead of waiting until crunch time
Feb 23, 2024 at 12:17 PM
- Cisco0623
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Originally posted by lamontb:
I still don't understand why our FO doesn't extend guys early instead of waiting until crunch time
I think this is a mutual tactic by agents. The last minute pressure usually means more money for their client, but I do wish it was more straight forward.
Feb 23, 2024 at 12:27 PM
- Strwy2Hevn
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:Originally posted by Pillbusta:with the recent cap news we have even more ammunition to get it done
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You'd better run that by Paraag. If we paid attention we saw we restructured guys and made cap space to rollover to this year in anticipation we'd need to extend our top tier A plus guys and that the cap would grow to give us more space
The recent news is a much apparently bonus for us and it does help in both adding and keeping talent. It's simple math. Arithmetic never lies
Just as Brock's rookie deal had a great effect so too does the salary cap expanding
We don't need cap space to resign BA. This has 0 effect
Feb 23, 2024 at 12:27 PM
- okdkid
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Originally posted by lamontb:
I still don't understand why our FO doesn't extend guys early instead of waiting until crunch time
Because players want to wait.
Feb 23, 2024 at 12:38 PM
- 49erFaithfullest
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
with the recent cap news we have even more ammunition to get it done
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You'd better run that by Paraag. If we paid attention we saw we restructured guys and made cap space to rollover to this year in anticipation we'd need to extend our top tier A plus guys and that the cap would grow to give us more space
The recent news is a much apparently bonus for us and it does help in both adding and keeping talent. It's simple math. Arithmetic never lies
Just as Brock's rookie deal had a great effect so too does the salary cap expanding
We don't need cap space to resign BA. This has 0 effect
With Justin Jefferson about to reset the WR market it would be wise to extend him sooner rather than later.
Feb 23, 2024 at 12:42 PM
- pd24
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Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by lamontb:
I still don't understand why our FO doesn't extend guys early instead of waiting until crunch time
Because players want to wait.
But they always extend the guys they want to keep 1 year before they are Free agents. So the statement is false that we don't.
Deebo
Fred
Bosa
Greenlaw
What player did they tag or let hit free agency?
Feb 23, 2024 at 12:49 PM
- okdkid
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Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by lamontb:
I still don't understand why our FO doesn't extend guys early instead of waiting until crunch time
Because players want to wait.
But they always extend the guys they want to keep 1 year before they are Free agents. So the statement is false that we don't.
Deebo
Fred
Bosa
Greenlaw
What player did they tag or let hit free agency?
You're right about time left on contract. I (wrongly?) thought he meant time in the offseason - such as Bosa signing in September.
Players who are still under control always want to wait until the comparable UFAs are signed or traded and extended because they almost always lift the market.
Thats why most of these extensions happen in August.
Feb 23, 2024 at 12:52 PM
- Oscar8325
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Originally posted by lamontb:
I still don't understand why our FO doesn't extend guys early instead of waiting until crunch time
Crunch time means more $$$, especially after the year BA had.
Feb 23, 2024 at 12:55 PM
- pd24
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Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Originally posted by lamontb:
I still don't understand why our FO doesn't extend guys early instead of waiting until crunch time
Crunch time means more $$$, especially after the year BA had.
Only if they get extended. Sometimes guys hold out, don't get extended, come back and don't play well and lose money. See Levon Bell. Don't remember if Ekler held out last season, but he did play as well as he did before. Bosa played better as the season went a long.
So holding out may hurt earnings if he doesn't get extended.
Feb 23, 2024 at 1:22 PM
- 9erred
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Originally posted by lamontb:
I still don't understand why our FO doesn't extend guys early instead of waiting until crunch time
Its not crunch time, it is one year out. The FO excercised the 5th year option at 14 million, The Niners could then in theory frnachise tag him for 22 million, so essentially he is under contract for next two season at 36 million. So this to me shifts the leverage to San Francisco. The only option the player has is to sit out
Feb 23, 2024 at 4:24 PM
- hondakillerzx
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Lock him up and then decide who is better this year between him and Deebo. Trade one off before the Purdy deal. If Purdy does what he did so far again next year he's gonna be in the 40m range at the very least
Feb 23, 2024 at 4:45 PM
- Strwy2Hevn
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Originally posted by hondakillerzx:Lock him up and then decide who is better this year between him and Deebo. Trade one off before the Purdy deal. If Purdy does what he did so far again next year he's gonna be in the 40m range at the very least
With the cap going up this year and next He's going to get way over 40.
Feb 23, 2024 at 5:11 PM
- JaggedJ
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Originally posted by lamontb:
I still don't understand why our FO doesn't extend guys early instead of waiting until crunch time
I always assumed it was because we were staggering the contracts to stay as cap flexible as we could and avoid a situation where multiple can't lose guys are free agents at the same time.
[ Edited by JaggedJ on Feb 23, 2024 at 5:11 PM ]
Feb 23, 2024 at 5:17 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
with the recent cap news we have even more ammunition to get it done
Has 0 effect
You'd better run that by Paraag. If we paid attention we saw we restructured guys and made cap space to rollover to this year in anticipation we'd need to extend our top tier A plus guys and that the cap would grow to give us more space
The recent news is a much apparently bonus for us and it does help in both adding and keeping talent. It's simple math. Arithmetic never lies
Just as Brock's rookie deal had a great effect so too does the salary cap expanding
We don't need cap space to resign BA. This has 0 effect
Agreed. The new cap number news has zero effect.
Feb 23, 2024 at 5:56 PM
- 5thSFG
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Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
with the recent cap news we have even more ammunition to get it done
Has 0 effect
You'd better run that by Paraag. If we paid attention we saw we restructured guys and made cap space to rollover to this year in anticipation we'd need to extend our top tier A plus guys and that the cap would grow to give us more space
The recent news is a much apparently bonus for us and it does help in both adding and keeping talent. It's simple math. Arithmetic never lies
Just as Brock's rookie deal had a great effect so too does the salary cap expanding
We don't need cap space to resign BA. This has 0 effect
🤣🤣🤣. Said with such authority, incorrect as it may be.