Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by teylo31:
Does shanny catch any heat for spectacle considering his role in keeping him

I don't see how this is so much Kyle's fault in keeping him. He wasn't pounding the table demanding to keep him Aiyuk just decided to sign the contract that Lynch/Paarag laid out for him at the last second.
Lynch/Shanny probably deserve a little blame because he was acting a fool before signing, probably should have just shipped him off but that's easy to say in hindsight. No one expected him to be this cancerous nor did we have a #1 wr outside of him at the time

You may have missed it...but there is a public story about Lynch having a trade ready to go for BA and KS running up the stairs and stopping it from happening

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Per Glazer's report, 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan ran upstairs to put the trade talks on hold before the team and Aiyuk hammered out the deal he wound up signing over the next couple of hours. After Monday night's 32-19 win over the Jets, Shanahan confirmed that "most of" the report was on the mark.

"It was that I wanted to make sure he wasn't traded already," Shanahan said, via 49ersWebzone.com
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kyle-shanahan-most-of-report-on-nearly-trading-brandon-aiyuk-is-true

Yes I know, do you know why Kyle ran to have it stopped?? Because BA decided to sign the contract that LYNCH/PAARAG had laid out for MONTHS at the last second before being traded. Could have Kyle told Aiyuk "it's too late we are finalizing a trade" sure I'll give you that but a lot of you make that out like Kyle voided the trade when he's not even the GM . This was another one of Aiyuks antics, he pushed it to the limit trying to be traded to Washington, when he caught wind that he was heading to Pittsburgh he caved and signed the contract

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by teylo31:
Does shanny catch any heat for spectacle considering his role in keeping him

I don't see how this is so much Kyle's fault in keeping him. He wasn't pounding the table demanding to keep him Aiyuk just decided to sign the contract that Lynch/Paarag laid out for him at the last second.
Lynch/Shanny probably deserve a little blame because he was acting a fool before signing, probably should have just shipped him off but that's easy to say in hindsight. No one expected him to be this cancerous nor did we have a #1 wr outside of him at the time

You may have missed it...but there is a public story about Lynch having a trade ready to go for BA and KS running up the stairs and stopping it from happening

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Per Glazer's report, 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan ran upstairs to put the trade talks on hold before the team and Aiyuk hammered out the deal he wound up signing over the next couple of hours. After Monday night's 32-19 win over the Jets, Shanahan confirmed that "most of" the report was on the mark.

"It was that I wanted to make sure he wasn't traded already," Shanahan said, via 49ersWebzone.com
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kyle-shanahan-most-of-report-on-nearly-trading-brandon-aiyuk-is-true

Yes I know, do you know why Kyle ran to have it stopped?? Because BA decided to sign the contract that LYNCH/PAARAG had laid out for MONTHS at the last second before being traded. Could have Kyle told Aiyuk "it's too late we are finalizing a trade" sure I'll give you that but a lot of you make that out like Kyle voided the trade when he's not even the GM . This was another one of Aiyuks antics, he pushed it to the limit trying to be traded to Washington, when he caught wind that he was heading to Pittsburgh he caved and signed the contract

none of what you said changes the story

Lynch was done with BA and ready to deal him
KS stopped it

KS owns this mess and quite frankly it is a repeat of one of his flaws. KS the HC gets too attached to players and KS the GM interferes with Lynch

lol

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by teylo31:
Does shanny catch any heat for spectacle considering his role in keeping him

I don't see how this is so much Kyle's fault in keeping him. He wasn't pounding the table demanding to keep him Aiyuk just decided to sign the contract that Lynch/Paarag laid out for him at the last second.
Lynch/Shanny probably deserve a little blame because he was acting a fool before signing, probably should have just shipped him off but that's easy to say in hindsight. No one expected him to be this cancerous nor did we have a #1 wr outside of him at the time

You may have missed it...but there is a public story about Lynch having a trade ready to go for BA and KS running up the stairs and stopping it from happening

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Per Glazer's report, 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan ran upstairs to put the trade talks on hold before the team and Aiyuk hammered out the deal he wound up signing over the next couple of hours. After Monday night's 32-19 win over the Jets, Shanahan confirmed that "most of" the report was on the mark.

"It was that I wanted to make sure he wasn't traded already," Shanahan said, via 49ersWebzone.com
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https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kyle-shanahan-most-of-report-on-nearly-trading-brandon-aiyuk-is-true

Yes I know, do you know why Kyle ran to have it stopped?? Because BA decided to sign the contract that LYNCH/PAARAG had laid out for MONTHS at the last second before being traded. Could have Kyle told Aiyuk "it's too late we are finalizing a trade" sure I'll give you that but a lot of you make that out like Kyle voided the trade when he's not even the GM . This was another one of Aiyuks antics, he pushed it to the limit trying to be traded to Washington, when he caught wind that he was heading to Pittsburgh he caved and signed the contract

none of what you said changes the story

Lynch was done with BA and ready to deal him
KS stopped it

KS owns this mess and quite frankly it is a repeat of one of his flaws. KS the HC gets too attached to players and KS the GM interferes with Lynch

If Lynch was "done" then Aiyuk would have been traded. While Kyle has a large say in things Lynch is the GM and put that contract in front of Aiyuk months prior to begin with. This notion that Kyle stopped the trade because he demanded to keep Aiyuk is ridiculous. Aiyuk simply caved and was willing to sign what Lynch/Paarag put in front him and some how that's Kyle's doing?

Originally posted by Since07:
If Lynch was "done" then Aiyuk would have been traded. While Kyle has a large say in things Lynch is the GM and put that contract in front of Aiyuk months prior to begin with. This notion that Kyle stopped the trade because he demanded to keep Aiyuk is ridiculous. Aiyuk simply caved and was willing to sign what Lynch/Paarag put in front him and some how that's Kyle's doing?

This is not correct:

https://www.si.com/nfl/takeaways-brandon-aiyuk-49ers-negotiations

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Since07:
If Lynch was "done" then Aiyuk would have been traded. While Kyle has a large say in things Lynch is the GM and put that contract in front of Aiyuk months prior to begin with. This notion that Kyle stopped the trade because he demanded to keep Aiyuk is ridiculous. Aiyuk simply caved and was willing to sign what Lynch/Paarag put in front him and some how that's Kyle's doing?

This is not correct:

https://www.si.com/nfl/takeaways-brandon-aiyuk-49ers-negotiations

On Aug. 12, the Niners made the two proposals—one for $120 million over four years, and another for $87 million over three years. Aiyuk rejected both, and they came off the table. Then, last week, when the sides reopened talks, the Niners' offers went back on the table, and Aiyuk took the four-year, $120 million deal.

Am I missing something? It literally says Aiyuk took the 120M deal the 9ers made in August

*I think I see what you are saying instead of "months prior" it was a few weeks? Kind of moot if that's the point you are trying to make? He ended up signing the deal that was already on the table

While we can't take this as truth Housh was in Aiyuks camp and said other teams were willing to pay him "a lot more" at 6:20 mark

Originally posted by Since07:
On Aug. 12, the Niners made the two proposals—one for $120 million over four years, and another for $87 million over three years. Aiyuk rejected both, and they came off the table. Then, last week, when the sides reopened talks, the Niners' offers went back on the table, and Aiyuk took the four-year, $120 million deal.

Am I missing something? It literally says Aiyuk took the 120M deal the 9ers made in August

Yes, apparently you are. First you said the contract had been there for months. That's incorrect. You also missed that Breer described the offer Aiyuk signed as similar to the one he rejected 3 weeks earlier (read: not the same). When Aiyuk initially rejected the similar offer 3 weeks earlier, it came off the table (read: it wasn't sitting there waiting to be signed).

Aiyuk's agent addressed this directly when it was leaked that he signed a deal that was the 'same' as one that was proposed three weeks earlier, and that his hold-in was unsuccessful.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Since07:
On Aug. 12, the Niners made the two proposals—one for $120 million over four years, and another for $87 million over three years. Aiyuk rejected both, and they came off the table. Then, last week, when the sides reopened talks, the Niners' offers went back on the table, and Aiyuk took the four-year, $120 million deal.

Am I missing something? It literally says Aiyuk took the 120M deal the 9ers made in August

Yes, apparently you are. First you said the contract had been there for months. That's incorrect. You also missed that Breer described the offer Aiyuk signed as similar to the one he rejected 3 weeks earlier (read: not the same). When Aiyuk initially rejected the similar offer 3 weeks earlier, it came off the table (read: it wasn't sitting there waiting to be signed).

Aiyuk's agent addressed this directly when it was leaked that he signed a deal that was the 'same' as one that was proposed three weeks earlier, and that his hold-in was unsuccessful.

You are apparently missing how negotiations take place in these situations. A contract was offered in May. Active, on/off table are all negotiation tactics.

BA could have accepted it at anytime. Which he himself said he made it harder than it should have been

Originally posted by teylo31:
Does shanny catch any heat for spectacle considering his role in keeping him

He already did:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6182308/2025/03/07/49ers-jed-york-organization-reset/

TLDR: Kyle doesn't get to step on Paraag's toes anymore as he shapes roster decisions via contract negotiation. Just as we all want, right?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You are apparently missing how negotiations take place in these situations. A contract was offered in May. Active, on/off table are all negotiation tactics.

BA could have accepted it at anytime. Which he himself said he made it harder than it should have been

The contract offered in May was for 26 million a year. Aiyuk went public about it when the details of the offer were publicly leaked. Another offer wasn't made until August 12th.

Not only do you not understand how negotiations work, but you can't read.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You are apparently missing how negotiations take place in these situations. A contract was offered in May. Active, on/off table are all negotiation tactics.

BA could have accepted it at anytime. Which he himself said he made it harder than it should have been

The contract offered in May was for 26 million a year. Aiyuk went public about it when the details of the offer were publicly leaked. Another offer wasn;t made until that August 12th offer.

Not only do you not understand how negotiations work, but you can't read.

I can read perfectly

you obliviously don't know negotiating tactics. Your From May to August comment is irrelevant here

in fact there was contract he could have signed since May

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I can read perfectly

you obliviously don't know negotiating tactics. Your From May to August comment is irrelevant here

in fact there was contract he could have signed since May

It's completely relevant because a poster is saying the contract offer Aiyuk signed was waiting for him for months.

Since07:
'While Kyle has a large say in things Lynch is the GM and put that contract in front of Aiyuk months prior to begin with.'

Read better please.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
I can read perfectly

you obliviously don't know negotiating tactics. Your From May to August comment is irrelevant here

in fact there was contract he could have signed since May

It's completely relevant because a poster is saying the contract offer Aiyuk signed was waiting for him for months.

Since07:
'While Kyle has a large say in things Lynch is the GM and put that contract in front of Aiyuk months prior to begin with.'

Read better please.

Semantics

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Semantics

Describing a situation inaccurately isn't a problem of semantics. Since07's language is very clear in its meaning.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
You are apparently missing how negotiations take place in these situations. A contract was offered in May. Active, on/off table are all negotiation tactics.

BA could have accepted it at anytime. Which he himself said he made it harder than it should have been

The contract offered in May was for 26 million a year. Aiyuk went public about it when the details of the offer were publicly leaked. Another offer wasn't made until August 12th.

Not only do you not understand how negotiations work, but you can't read.

It seems like you are making a minuscule point to the broader picture, all be it you are correct it wasn't months but a few weeks. Aiyuk has shown his hand, it wasn't all about the money… he had several offers willing to pay him more but refused to the very last second once he knew we were not joking that was the final offer and we were about to ship him off to Pittsburgh. It doesn't matter if it was 3 weeks or a couple of months his whole prerogative was to go to Washington even more so than the $