Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Not sure you're asking me, but I think he'll revive his career. If he keeps up with the same attitude he has with the 9ers, I think his career will be over fast. But it seems like when he's happy, he plays well. And if he plays in Washington with his buddy Jayden Daniels and McClarin he could be a lot more dangerous on the field.

But yah he's done as a 9er so moving on I wish him the best. Stop trolling the 9ers and move on too.

I don't wish him the best. I'm indifferent on him because he won't be a Niner so I can care less. I just want us to get back why we can and find players that want to play and that will make our team better

This is why I rather just spend money on a WR or skill position rather just draft one. When drafted, they act like the most humble nicest person to come outta the draft. Then after their rookie contract, they turn into trolls or the most privileged player in the league. With a free agent, they already have a track record of either playing good with a good attitude or playing good with a me attitude or they just turn out to be humbled. In the end you get what you paid for.

Must say I'm leaning in this direction too. Happy to keep drafting WR in later rounds hoping to nail a cheap one, but for reliability I'd rather get someone proven.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Howlett49:
The problem this regime has with drafting WRs is that they can't get anything out of them while they're cheap. Shanny won't play rookie WRs and if they're not a 1st rounder they're gone with just 3 years of production max. Then if they get injured at any point they get setback and now another season is a wash.

If they don't pick up Pearsall's 5th year option he's already half way through his rookie contract and hasn't scored a touchdown.

Without looking up any stats and going off of memory it feels like Aiyuk was only good for two seasons before they had to over pay for him.

Other teams will start rookies and they'll ball out. They'll get three or four years out of them cheap and then can move on. This regime's approach is ass backwards IMO.

I still like Lynch and Shanny but the way they handle WRs is irritating.

Pearsall has absolutely scored TD's what are you talking about lol

Looks like he had 3 his rookie year. Nothing last year. I don't look up stats and I guess I shouldn't trust the dumbass Larry Kruger who runs Niners nightly on KNBR because that's his constant gripe.

How about the rest of what I said which was the actual talking point. Or you just the guy that likes to pick apart people posts?

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Not sure you're asking me, but I think he'll revive his career. If he keeps up with the same attitude he has with the 9ers, I think his career will be over fast. But it seems like when he's happy, he plays well. And if he plays in Washington with his buddy Jayden Daniels and McClarin he could be a lot more dangerous on the field.

But yah he's done as a 9er so moving on I wish him the best. Stop trolling the 9ers and move on too.

I don't wish him the best. I'm indifferent on him because he won't be a Niner so I can care less. I just want us to get back why we can and find players that want to play and that will make our team better

This is why I rather just spend money on a WR or skill position rather just draft one. When drafted, they act like the most humble nicest person to come outta the draft. Then after their rookie contract, they turn into trolls or the most privileged player in the league. With a free agent, they already have a track record of either playing good with a good attitude or playing good with a me attitude or they just turn out to be humbled. In the end you get what you paid for.

Must say I'm leaning in this direction too. Happy to keep drafting WR in later rounds hoping to nail a cheap one, but for reliability I'd rather get someone proven.

I'm just tired of all these WR's that this staff is drafting. Every single one of them have turned out to be trolls or weirdos. I'm willing to bet that Alec Pearce is the smart way to go. 49ers have the cap room and resources to make this years 49ers team a power house this season. The cheap route got this team to the divisional round, now let's spend some money and get to the final round.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Not sure you're asking me, but I think he'll revive his career. If he keeps up with the same attitude he has with the 9ers, I think his career will be over fast. But it seems like when he's happy, he plays well. And if he plays in Washington with his buddy Jayden Daniels and McClarin he could be a lot more dangerous on the field.

But yah he's done as a 9er so moving on I wish him the best. Stop trolling the 9ers and move on too.

I don't wish him the best. I'm indifferent on him because he won't be a Niner so I can care less. I just want us to get back why we can and find players that want to play and that will make our team better

This is why I rather just spend money on a WR or skill position rather just draft one. When drafted, they act like the most humble nicest person to come outta the draft. Then after their rookie contract, they turn into trolls or the most privileged player in the league. With a free agent, they already have a track record of either playing good with a good attitude or playing good with a me attitude or they just turn out to be humbled. In the end you get what you paid for.

Must say I'm leaning in this direction too. Happy to keep drafting WR in later rounds hoping to nail a cheap one, but for reliability I'd rather get someone proven.

I'm just tired of all these WR's that this staff is drafting. Every single one of them have turned out to be trolls or weirdos. I'm willing to bet that Alec Pearce is the smart way to go. 49ers have the cap room and resources to make this years 49ers team a power house this season. The cheap route got this team to the divisional round, now let's spend some money and get to the final round.

ALEC PEARCE - Why would you want two Pearsall? the WRs we drafted in the middle round were good, Shanny just never bothered to use them..

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Not sure you're asking me, but I think he'll revive his career. If he keeps up with the same attitude he has with the 9ers, I think his career will be over fast. But it seems like when he's happy, he plays well. And if he plays in Washington with his buddy Jayden Daniels and McClarin he could be a lot more dangerous on the field.

But yah he's done as a 9er so moving on I wish him the best. Stop trolling the 9ers and move on too.

I don't wish him the best. I'm indifferent on him because he won't be a Niner so I can care less. I just want us to get back why we can and find players that want to play and that will make our team better

This is why I rather just spend money on a WR or skill position rather just draft one. When drafted, they act like the most humble nicest person to come outta the draft. Then after their rookie contract, they turn into trolls or the most privileged player in the league. With a free agent, they already have a track record of either playing good with a good attitude or playing good with a me attitude or they just turn out to be humbled. In the end you get what you paid for.

Must say I'm leaning in this direction too. Happy to keep drafting WR in later rounds hoping to nail a cheap one, but for reliability I'd rather get someone proven.

I'm just tired of all these WR's that this staff is drafting. Every single one of them have turned out to be trolls or weirdos. I'm willing to bet that Alec Pearce is the smart way to go. 49ers have the cap room and resources to make this years 49ers team a power house this season. The cheap route got this team to the divisional round, now let's spend some money and get to the final round.

Spotrac estimates his market value at $20 million. I think that may turn out to be low given the number of teams that are in the same situation we are.

Another option is Rashid Shaheed. $15 million per Spotrac. I'm not all that high on him as a receiver, but his return value is high.

I thought he got his money taken away because he was unresponsive, not the other way around.

KJ is a diva backing another diva... divas sticking together

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:
KJ is a diva backing another diva... divas sticking together

KJ is an idiot. TJ Housmanzadeh, his own trainer, says BA is not to be trusted and is in the wrong here. There is really ZERO reason to trust BA as our front office and our players were ghosted. One thing to ghost the team but your teammates too?

No excuses to be made and his defenders here on this very website have fallen silent the last few months. The folk that always try to point blame at our front office had to back up on this one.

At this point BA has no friends over here and most 49ers are content to move on from him and do better for ourselves. It was a mistake to try to extend him and not trade him and hopefully this was a lesson learned

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
KJ is an idiot. TJ Housmanzadeh, his own trainer, says BA is not to be trusted and is in the wrong here. There is really ZERO reason to trust BA as our front office and our players were ghosted. One thing to ghost the team but your teammates too?

No excuses to be made and his defenders here on this very website have fallen silent the last few months. The folk that always try to point blame at our front office had to back up on this one.

At this point BA has no friends over here and most 49ers are content to move on from him and do better for ourselves. It was a mistake to try to extend him and not trade him and hopefully this was a lesson learned

I buy KJ's point here. That doesn't mean I think Aiyuk is innocent or has handled this situation well. He hasn't. I think the 49ers share real responsibility in this situation being what it is and it's somewhat perplexing to me that it hasn't been a part of the conversation.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I buy KJ's point here. That doesn't mean I think Aiyuk is innocent or has handled this situation well. He hasn't. I think the 49ers share real responsibility in this situation being what it is and it's somewhat perplexing to me that it hasn't been a part of the conversation.

Ain't nothing to talk about. He got paid and it was a bad deal. 25 catches for $50M. Thats $2M a catch. Who is responsible for that? What is perplexing about that?

Where the problem is and where the lesson should be learned is we have to get tougher when doing deals and rewarding players before their contracts are up. We exercised a fifth year option and then forgot we had it.

Going forward we have to stand by only negotiating contracts for an early reward prior to TC. Once camp has started you either play on your deal as is or you can sit out with no new deal. There is absolutely NO way we should be paying any player more money than what they're already signed for if they can't make it to attend the ENTIRE camp and get into playing shape for the season so they can be worth the money they're asking the team an early reward for

Tired of paying holdouts missing camp that get the money and then finally report to play as a shell of themselves. There's no win in that for us and it's bad business

He signed a contract that required him to check in if he was rehabbing an injury. He didn't check in when he was supposed to and didn't respond to additional attempts to contact him to find out why. Once someone violates their agreement to that degree I have little empathy for them. If the 49ers had violated his contract in a similar way - missed deadlines for due payments, for example - I 'd be similarly critical of them.

Originally posted by captveg:
He signed a contract that required him to check in if he was rehabbing an injury. He didn't check in when he was supposed to and didn't respond to additional attempts to contact him to find out why. Once someone violates their agreement to that degree I have little empathy for them. If the 49ers had violated his contract in a similar way - missed deadlines for due payments, for example - I 'd be similarly critical of them.

He was acting hella ignorant and erratically prior to him signing the extension and in hindsight, there is no way we should have penned him to a reward after missing the start of camp. He should have been traded or forced to play on his deal as it was with the hope that he could prove through his play as the season progressed that he was actively playing up to what he wanted to be paid.

It is stupid to pay holdouts that are NOT in playing shape, that have not improved themselves alongside and within the team structure throughout the offseason as if they are free agents. They are in fact NOT free agents and are seeking an early reward. That being said you need to come to terms on an extension during the offseason and finish early prior to camp.

If a player can not work that deal out on time they have 2 options. Hold out past training camp with no negotiations or report to play on your current deal and EARN the right for us to reopen negotiations as the season progresses. We can no longer get punked on these deals with players acting erratically going forward. There should be NO more chances for this type of screw up but I know our HC and GM will be given grace due to their track record of winning. It just frustrates me to see this crap as a fan of the team

F Keyshawn Johnson. He's talking out his ass and clearly has no idea about the details. BA breached his contract by not even doing the bare F'ing minimum. And it's not just the coaches and FO that are done with him. It's his teammates, his comrades on the field that are done with him. Tired of people coming to the defense of A-holes