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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Every week Kyle or John gets asked if Aiyuk is close to returning to practice and the answer is always not yet. At this point does anyone really think we'll see hom on the field this season? He certainly wouldn't be in any kind of game shape. Time to just move on from him and chalk it up to another bad WR contract.

It was made clear at the time the injury occurred that BA would likely miss the entire 2025 season.

In spite of all the BS reports over the past year I believe the initial assessment was always true.

An injury that bad often takes more than a full year for recoveey and sometimes players are never the same. It wasn't the usual clean ACL.

You make great points in both posts. BA will likely never be the same and he's likely played his last game in a 49ers' uniform.

Both BA and Deebo have been unfortunate lessons learned at a high price for the 49ers' organization.

From my perspective we haven't had a WR worthy of top dollar, or near top dollar, at that position since the TO era.
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Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
So to explain some of my posts, or the things you pointed out...

as far as "innocent", I'm not saying Aiyuk is innocent... but I just don't think folks should lose their s**t when we don't know everything. Have a personal hatred to Aiyuk for being a "thief" or some other bad stuff that has been said about him since his injury or what has happened recently.

As far as me mentioning "black/african". You asked me if I thought he was a victim. I responded how I view certain things. If it were true that Aiyuk did something that voided his contract, even if other players were not held to the same standard, then I don't view him or anyone similar as a victim. You worry about yourself, you cover your ass. But I also understand if he felt some kind of way, if he were treated differently than other players. I can understand his right to approach it how he wants to, as long as he can live with what the future might hold. And I think he can.

as far as "innocent", I'm not saying Aiyuk is innocent... but I just don't think folks should lose their s**t when we don't know everything. Have a personal hatred to Aiyuk for being a "thief" or some other bad stuff that has been said about him since his injury or what has happened recently.

Fair enough.

As far as me mentioning "black/african". You asked me if I thought he was a victim. I responded how I view certain things. If it were true that Aiyuk did something that voided his contract, even if other players were not held to the same standard, then I don't view him or anyone similar as a victim. You worry about yourself, you cover your ass. But I also understand if he felt some kind of way, if he were treated differently than other players. I can understand his right to approach it how he wants to, as long as he can live with what the future might hold. And I think he can.

Disagree here. It is possible that he may have been subjected to a punishment (voiding of guarantees) for an action that others may have committed without such punishment (failing to meet team guidelines for injury recovery). With that said, I strongly believe that the reason for Aiyuk being treated differently (which is hypothetical) was his demeanor, antics and overall lack of commitment to the team and culture. He has a right to believe his treatment was due to race (again, hypothetical that he even sees it this way), but that doesn't necessarily mean it is a valid assessment of the situation. So I guess we can agree to disagree on this one.

I'll add my two cents here. Aiyuk fancies himself as an elite #1 WR who should be the focal point of an offensive attack. In 2023, the 49ers also had George Kittle and CMC, who are both arguably HOF calibre playmakers, and Deebo who was still balling, who WERE the focal point of the 49ers offense. That's a lot of great playmakers with not a lot of touches to go around. Can you blame the team for prioritizing CMC? Hell no. Maybe there should have been less Deebo and more Aiyuk, but that's not how it unfolded.

Fast forward, and Aiyuk wants a contract befitting his eliteness as a WR AND he wants status as the focal point of an offense. The 49ers made a decision that they were going to be a run-heavy team with playaction off it and would feature CMC and Kittle. So questions all around. If the 49ers wanted this type of offense, why pay Aiyuk so much money?

I think BA was upset because he wanted respect befitting his elite status and this team wasn't built to give Aiyuk the ball often. He never showed the maturity to deal with it and the team shouldn't have extended the guy.
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
So to explain some of my posts, or the things you pointed out...

as far as "innocent", I'm not saying Aiyuk is innocent... but I just don't think folks should lose their s**t when we don't know everything. Have a personal hatred to Aiyuk for being a "thief" or some other bad stuff that has been said about him since his injury or what has happened recently.

As far as me mentioning "black/african". You asked me if I thought he was a victim. I responded how I view certain things. If it were true that Aiyuk did something that voided his contract, even if other players were not held to the same standard, then I don't view him or anyone similar as a victim. You worry about yourself, you cover your ass. But I also understand if he felt some kind of way, if he were treated differently than other players. I can understand his right to approach it how he wants to, as long as he can live with what the future might hold. And I think he can.

as far as "innocent", I'm not saying Aiyuk is innocent... but I just don't think folks should lose their s**t when we don't know everything. Have a personal hatred to Aiyuk for being a "thief" or some other bad stuff that has been said about him since his injury or what has happened recently.

Fair enough.

As far as me mentioning "black/african". You asked me if I thought he was a victim. I responded how I view certain things. If it were true that Aiyuk did something that voided his contract, even if other players were not held to the same standard, then I don't view him or anyone similar as a victim. You worry about yourself, you cover your ass. But I also understand if he felt some kind of way, if he were treated differently than other players. I can understand his right to approach it how he wants to, as long as he can live with what the future might hold. And I think he can.

Disagree here. It is possible that he may have been subjected to a punishment (voiding of guarantees) for an action that others may have committed without such punishment (failing to meet team guidelines for injury recovery). With that said, I strongly believe that the reason for Aiyuk being treated differently (which is hypothetical) was his demeanor, antics and overall lack of commitment to the team and culture. He has a right to believe his treatment was due to race (again, hypothetical that he even sees it this way), but that doesn't necessarily mean it is a valid assessment of the situation. So I guess we can agree to disagree on this one.

I'll add my two cents here. Aiyuk fancies himself as an elite #1 WR who should be the focal point of an offensive attack. In 2023, the 49ers also had George Kittle and CMC, who are both arguably HOF calibre playmakers, and Deebo who was still balling, who WERE the focal point of the 49ers offense. That's a lot of great playmakers with not a lot of touches to go around. Can you blame the team for prioritizing CMC? Hell no. Maybe there should have been less Deebo and more Aiyuk, but that's not how it unfolded.

Fast forward, and Aiyuk wants a contract befitting his eliteness as a WR AND he wants status as the focal point of an offense. The 49ers made a decision that they were going to be a run-heavy team with playaction off it and would feature CMC and Kittle. So questions all around. If the 49ers wanted this type of offense, why pay Aiyuk so much money?

I think BA was upset because he wanted respect befitting his elite status and this team wasn't built to give Aiyuk the ball often. He never showed the maturity to deal with it and the team shouldn't have extended the guy.

All of this sounds like a player and franchise that do not align and would be best parting ways. Now the hard part is how do they do this with each party getting what they want in return? (B.A can look for a trade partner in the offseason, the 49ers get draft capital or a player in exchange?)
Originally posted by glorydayz:
All of this sounds like a player and franchise that do not align and would be best parting ways. Now the hard part is how do they do this with each party getting what they want in return? (B.A can look for a trade partner in the offseason, the 49ers get draft capital or a player in exchange?)

He'll be released.

- 49ers save money
- Aiyuk can shop himself on the open market.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
All of this sounds like a player and franchise that do not align and would be best parting ways. Now the hard part is how do they do this with each party getting what they want in return? (B.A can look for a trade partner in the offseason, the 49ers get draft capital or a player in exchange?)

He'll be released.

- 49ers save money
- Aiyuk can shop himself on the open market.

49ers get nothing in return???
Originally posted by glorydayz:
49ers get nothing in return???

You mean nothing else in addition to saving money - a noted priority for them currently.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
All of this sounds like a player and franchise that do not align and would be best parting ways. Now the hard part is how do they do this with each party getting what they want in return? (B.A can look for a trade partner in the offseason, the 49ers get draft capital or a player in exchange?)

He'll be released.

- 49ers save money
- Aiyuk can shop himself on the open market.

49ers get nothing in return???

I would bet money BA is traded for a poor return instead of released
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
I would bet money BA is traded for a poor return instead of released

How much money? Lol.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
49ers get nothing in return???

You mean nothing else in addition to saving money - a noted priority for them currently.

Jed York?
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
All of this sounds like a player and franchise that do not align and would be best parting ways. Now the hard part is how do they do this with each party getting what they want in return? (B.A can look for a trade partner in the offseason, the 49ers get draft capital or a player in exchange?)

He'll be released.

- 49ers save money
- Aiyuk can shop himself on the open market.

49ers get nothing in return???

I would bet money BA is traded for a poor return instead of released

There's interest from teams for sure but not with that contract. Teams will just wait for the 9ers to cut him and then make their bid cause it sure as hell won't get up to $120M
Originally posted by Since07:
Originally posted by Tigerlaw:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
All of this sounds like a player and franchise that do not align and would be best parting ways. Now the hard part is how do they do this with each party getting what they want in return? (B.A can look for a trade partner in the offseason, the 49ers get draft capital or a player in exchange?)

He'll be released.

- 49ers save money
- Aiyuk can shop himself on the open market.

49ers get nothing in return???

I would bet money BA is traded for a poor return instead of released

There's interest from teams for sure but not with that contract. Teams will just wait for the 9ers to cut him and then make their bid cause it sure as hell won't get up to $120M

120M non guaranteed is a great contract

Zero risk of dead money for the new team

Hopefully Washington and New England can get into a bidding war for him
I am against paying a lot to a WR unless he's really a top tier difference maker. Even then it's not good business. Teams can find ways to neuralize most of the good receivers The also get hurt a lot and often become a malcontent. I think spend that $30 mil or more on a good O line or somewhere on defense makes more sense. Draft the receive3rs and then let them walk after 4 years uless they really prove they're worth. One good season isn't enough.
That knee probably still not right. Both Niners and Aiyuk know it. Aiyuk not giving much update to the Niners, thus voiding some guaranteed on his contract. If Niners had gotten up to date info on Aiyuk 's rehab, they would know fairly accurately when he should be available. There's nothing new to the situation except the fans and media asking about when will Aiyuk return.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
That knee probably still not right. Both Niners and Aiyuk know it. Aiyuk not giving much update to the Niners, thus voiding some guaranteed on his contract. If Niners had gotten up to date info on Aiyuk 's rehab, they would know fairly accurately when he should be available. There's nothing new to the situation except the fans and media asking about when will Aiyuk return.

Clearly, this has nothing to do with his knee at this point. He doesn't want to play. That's obvious.
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