Brandon Aiyuk is a 49er! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Most likely wants to join Demeco and Stroud in Houston

Reports are that he wants to play in Washington with Jayden Daniels.

Yeah, Deebo made that move. He's playing for a three win team. All his offensive output numbers are at record lows. It's just stark to see what Deebo's impact is when he's not the focus of a Kyle Shanahan run offense. But, if BA wants to ignore all of that, I'm sure Washington will give him a tryout. Kick the tires so to speak. I just do not think it will mean much. I have a feeling that BA's best days as a pro football player are behind him. I have no proof of this. It's just a feeling.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
So to explain some of my posts, or the things you pointed out...

as far as "innocent", I'm not saying Aiyuk is innocent... but I just don't think folks should lose their s**t when we don't know everything. Have a personal hatred to Aiyuk for being a "thief" or some other bad stuff that has been said about him since his injury or what has happened recently.

As far as me mentioning "black/african". You asked me if I thought he was a victim. I responded how I view certain things. If it were true that Aiyuk did something that voided his contract, even if other players were not held to the same standard, then I don't view him or anyone similar as a victim. You worry about yourself, you cover your ass. But I also understand if he felt some kind of way, if he were treated differently than other players. I can understand his right to approach it how he wants to, as long as he can live with what the future might hold. And I think he can.

as far as "innocent", I'm not saying Aiyuk is innocent... but I just don't think folks should lose their s**t when we don't know everything. Have a personal hatred to Aiyuk for being a "thief" or some other bad stuff that has been said about him since his injury or what has happened recently.

Fair enough.

As far as me mentioning "black/african". You asked me if I thought he was a victim. I responded how I view certain things. If it were true that Aiyuk did something that voided his contract, even if other players were not held to the same standard, then I don't view him or anyone similar as a victim. You worry about yourself, you cover your ass. But I also understand if he felt some kind of way, if he were treated differently than other players. I can understand his right to approach it how he wants to, as long as he can live with what the future might hold. And I think he can.

Disagree here. It is possible that he may have been subjected to a punishment (voiding of guarantees) for an action that others may have committed without such punishment (failing to meet team guidelines for injury recovery). With that said, I strongly believe that the reason for Aiyuk being treated differently (which is hypothetical) was his demeanor, antics and overall lack of commitment to the team and culture. He has a right to believe his treatment was due to race (again, hypothetical that he even sees it this way), but that doesn't necessarily mean it is a valid assessment of the situation. So I guess we can agree to disagree on this one.

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Yeah, Deebo made that move. He's playing for a three win team. All his offensive output numbers are at record lows. It's just stark to see what Deebo's impact is when he's not the focus of a Kyle Shanahan run offense. But, if BA wants to ignore all of that, I'm sure Washington will give him a tryout. Kick the tires so to speak. I just do not think it will mean much. I have a feeling that BA's best days as a pro football player are behind him. I have no proof of this. It's just a feeling.

Wouldn't be surprising given the injury he suffered.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
Yeah, Deebo made that move. He's playing for a three win team. All his offensive output numbers are at record lows. It's just stark to see what Deebo's impact is when he's not the focus of a Kyle Shanahan run offense. But, if BA wants to ignore all of that, I'm sure Washington will give him a tryout. Kick the tires so to speak. I just do not think it will mean much. I have a feeling that BA's best days as a pro football player are behind him. I have no proof of this. It's just a feeling.

Wouldn't be surprising given the injury he suffered.

Only if he comes back at all.

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
as far as "innocent", I'm not saying Aiyuk is innocent... but I just don't think folks should lose their s**t when we don't know everything. Have a personal hatred to Aiyuk for being a "thief" or some other bad stuff that has been said about him since his injury or what has happened recently.

Fair enough.

As far as me mentioning "black/african". You asked me if I thought he was a victim. I responded how I view certain things. If it were true that Aiyuk did something that voided his contract, even if other players were not held to the same standard, then I don't view him or anyone similar as a victim. You worry about yourself, you cover your ass. But I also understand if he felt some kind of way, if he were treated differently than other players. I can understand his right to approach it how he wants to, as long as he can live with what the future might hold. And I think he can.

Disagree here. It is possible that he may have been subjected to a punishment (voiding of guarantees) for an action that others may have committed without such punishment (failing to meet team guidelines for injury recovery). With that said, I strongly believe that the reason for Aiyuk being treated differently (which is hypothetical) was his demeanor, antics and overall lack of commitment to the team and culture. He has a right to believe his treatment was due to race (again, hypothetical that he even sees it this way), but that doesn't necessarily mean it is a valid assessment of the situation. So I guess we can agree to disagree on this one.

Yea I'm not so sure. This is all happening under the well reported backdrop that the team wanted to pull back on cash spending and that there were disagreements behind closed doors regarding Aiyuk's future….to the extent that it was reported Kyle would be less involved in these kinds of decisions going forward*. Kyle personally stopped the team from trading Aiyuk.. Seems if he was such a poor culture fit, the HC wouldn't have done that.

To me this is about money and ego (not necessarily Aiyuk's, or at least Aiyuk's alone).

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
So to explain some of my posts, or the things you pointed out...

as far as "innocent", I'm not saying Aiyuk is innocent... but I just don't think folks should lose their s**t when we don't know everything. Have a personal hatred to Aiyuk for being a "thief" or some other bad stuff that has been said about him since his injury or what has happened recently.

As far as me mentioning "black/african". You asked me if I thought he was a victim. I responded how I view certain things. If it were true that Aiyuk did something that voided his contract, even if other players were not held to the same standard, then I don't view him or anyone similar as a victim. You worry about yourself, you cover your ass. But I also understand if he felt some kind of way, if he were treated differently than other players. I can understand his right to approach it how he wants to, as long as he can live with what the future might hold. And I think he can.

as far as "innocent", I'm not saying Aiyuk is innocent... but I just don't think folks should lose their s**t when we don't know everything. Have a personal hatred to Aiyuk for being a "thief" or some other bad stuff that has been said about him since his injury or what has happened recently.

Fair enough.

As far as me mentioning "black/african". You asked me if I thought he was a victim. I responded how I view certain things. If it were true that Aiyuk did something that voided his contract, even if other players were not held to the same standard, then I don't view him or anyone similar as a victim. You worry about yourself, you cover your ass. But I also understand if he felt some kind of way, if he were treated differently than other players. I can understand his right to approach it how he wants to, as long as he can live with what the future might hold. And I think he can.

Disagree here. It is possible that he may have been subjected to a punishment (voiding of guarantees) for an action that others may have committed without such punishment (failing to meet team guidelines for injury recovery). With that said, I strongly believe that the reason for Aiyuk being treated differently (which is hypothetical) was his demeanor, antics and overall lack of commitment to the team and culture. He has a right to believe his treatment was due to race (again, hypothetical that he even sees it this way), but that doesn't necessarily mean it is a valid assessment of the situation. So I guess we can agree to disagree on this one.

No I don't think he views his treatment was due to race. More so personality differences. It was just that the front office didn't want to pay him what he felt he deserved... FO leaked to the media the contract details they offered him (something he thought would stay private during negotiations), then he returned the favor and played the media game as well... and s**t got bad.

So it's more he lost trust with the front office last year.... and this year the same front office that didn't really want him, found a reason (that Aiyuk left open) to mess with things.... and he did something they didn't expect.

As far as Aiyuk the person or teammate. All I know is when he was on the field, he did everything asked of him... one of the better run blockers, even for his size... running routes, being a decoy.. what ever the team needed.

I really don't understand the Aiyuk situation. This is some straight diva s**t. Dude wanted to be paid, got paid, got hurt and now is losing guaranteed money that he b***hed and moaned to get. All while not fighting it through the NFLPA. He must be an idiot.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
No I don't think he views his treatment was due to race. More so personality differences. It was just that the front office didn't want to pay him what he felt he deserved... FO leaked to the media the contract details they offered him (something he thought would stay private during negotiations), then he returned the favor and played the media game as well... and s**t got bad.

So it's more he lost trust with the front office last year.... and this year the same front office that didn't really want him, found a reason (that Aiyuk left open) to mess with things.... and he did something they didn't expect.

As far as Aiyuk the person or teammate. All I know is when he was on the field, he did everything asked of him... one of the better run blockers, even for his size... running routes, being a decoy.. what ever the team needed.

And this is where you are totally wrong. During his contract negotiation he had SEVERAL opportunities to sign with other teams for more money. HE ran to Shanahan last minute and wanted to be a niner. HE made that decision it's got nothing to do with the front office. HE chose to stay and play with the niners if he wanted more money or so called respect HE had that opportunity. Quit playing him as the victim. As a man you have to stand up and be accountable for your actions!

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
No I don't think he views his treatment was due to race. More so personality differences. It was just that the front office didn't want to pay him what he felt he deserved... FO leaked to the media the contract details they offered him (something he thought would stay private during negotiations), then he returned the favor and played the media game as well... and s**t got bad.

So it's more he lost trust with the front office last year.... and this year the same front office that didn't really want him, found a reason (that Aiyuk left open) to mess with things.... and he did something they didn't expect.

As far as Aiyuk the person or teammate. All I know is when he was on the field, he did everything asked of him... one of the better run blockers, even for his size... running routes, being a decoy.. what ever the team needed.

And this is where you are totally wrong. During his contract negotiation he had SEVERAL opportunities to sign with other teams for more money. HE ran to Shanahan last minute and wanted to be a niner. HE made that decision it's got nothing to do with the front office. HE chose to stay and play with the niners if he wanted more money or so called respect HE had that opportunity. Quit playing him as the victim. As a man you have to stand up and be accountable for your actions!

That's wrong. He never hit FA so he wasn't in negotiations with any other teams.

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
No I don't think he views his treatment was due to race. More so personality differences. It was just that the front office didn't want to pay him what he felt he deserved... FO leaked to the media the contract details they offered him (something he thought would stay private during negotiations), then he returned the favor and played the media game as well... and s**t got bad.

So it's more he lost trust with the front office last year.... and this year the same front office that didn't really want him, found a reason (that Aiyuk left open) to mess with things.... and he did something they didn't expect.

As far as Aiyuk the person or teammate. All I know is when he was on the field, he did everything asked of him... one of the better run blockers, even for his size... running routes, being a decoy.. what ever the team needed.

And this is where you are totally wrong. During his contract negotiation he had SEVERAL opportunities to sign with other teams for more money. HE ran to Shanahan last minute and wanted to be a niner. HE made that decision it's got nothing to do with the front office. HE chose to stay and play with the niners if he wanted more money or so called respect HE had that opportunity. Quit playing him as the victim. As a man you have to stand up and be accountable for your actions!

That's wrong. He never hit FA so he wasn't in negotiations with any other teams.

I think he was mistakenly referring to the trade proposals that Aiyuk went against. I think the point still stands - That Aiyuk played his game, got what he wanted despite opportunities to go elsewhere, only to come back to the team with a piss poor attitude.

Was he the only one that lost the 2023 Superbowl? Him and his wife sure did act like it by immediately taking social media and saying he had "played his last game as a 49er" and that he was going to play for Vegas (LOL). You don't think the loss was devastating for guys like Warner, Kittle, Bosa, Deebo, etc.? Of course it was, especially since they went through it twice. But for some reason Aiyuk was the one acting like a child on social media. I doubt he is portraying that selfish aspect of his personality only on social media - It's reasonable to think that persona trickled into his interactions with the FO, especially during and after the negotiations.

Originally posted by All22:
That's wrong. He never hit FA so he wasn't in negotiations with any other teams.

No you're wrong if you believe teams weren't negotiating with him

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by All22:
That's wrong. He never hit FA so he wasn't in negotiations with any other teams.

No you're wrong if you believe teams weren't negotiating with him

You both are wrong, teams notified Lynch they were interested and that's how Aiyuk knew there was outside interest and possibilities of a trade

Originally posted by Stanley:
No you're wrong if you believe teams weren't negotiating with him

Yea, he had offers from a few teams that were willing to trade for him. IIRC one team was willing to pay him more than what he eventually signed for - the Pats. Think it was ~ 32m aav.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Stanley:

Originally posted by All22:
That's wrong. He never hit FA so he wasn't in negotiations with any other teams.

No you're wrong if you believe teams weren't negotiating with him

You both are wrong, teams notified Lynch they were interested and that's how Aiyuk knew there was outside interest and possibilities of a trade

Come on now does anyone have any reading retention? In August of 2024 after HE asked for a trade HE was granted permission from the niners to seek a trade. And his agent did just that and after the niners agreed to trade him HE ran to Shanahan and begged him to stop it. Member? You member?