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Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Increases?
Yes. The niners paid him taking the cap hit and he doesn't have as much control without the will not re-sign threat, which puts more teams in the mix.
But the knee is what tanks his trade value
Originally posted by miked1978:No I'm saying he's always been above average at best and greatly benefitted from the talent around him and when teams shifted some focus to him after he was paid as a #1 he didn't look like a #1WR to me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?
What are you even trying to argue here? He's literally improved statistically every season until last year when he missed camp because of the holdout and then tore his knee up. Are you saying he sucks because he got paid?
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by miked1978:No I'm saying he's always been above average at best and greatly benefitted from the talent around him and when teams shifted some focus to him after he was paid as a #1 he didn't look like a #1WR to me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?
What are you even trying to argue here? He's literally improved statistically every season until last year when he missed camp because of the holdout and then tore his knee up. Are you saying he sucks because he got paid?
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by miked1978:No I'm saying he's always been above average at best and greatly benefitted from the talent around him and when teams shifted some focus to him after he was paid as a #1 he didn't look like a #1WR to me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?
What are you even trying to argue here? He's literally improved statistically every season until last year when he missed camp because of the holdout and then tore his knee up. Are you saying he sucks because he got paid?
Originally posted by miked1978:No I'm not,I'm basing it on the fact that CMC Deebo & Kittle being on the field created favorable matches up for him & the offense took advantage of that,prior to last season Aiyuk was rarely if ever the focal point of opposing defenses once they started paying him the big $ & with CMC out those defenses shifted some focus to him and I wasn't impressed with what I saw from him,now maybe that was simply due to rust but I have my doubts.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by miked1978:No I'm saying he's always been above average at best and greatly benefitted from the talent around him and when teams shifted some focus to him after he was paid as a #1 he didn't look like a #1WR to me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?
What are you even trying to argue here? He's literally improved statistically every season until last year when he missed camp because of the holdout and then tore his knee up. Are you saying he sucks because he got paid?
In 2023 his best season, he had way more targets then anyone else with 100+. Deebo had around 60. He's been operating as out #1 WR since. You're basing your whole argument off of 6 games last year.
Originally posted by Kolohe:That's certainly possible,but I have my doubts.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by miked1978:No I'm saying he's always been above average at best and greatly benefitted from the talent around him and when teams shifted some focus to him after he was paid as a #1 he didn't look like a #1WR to me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?
What are you even trying to argue here? He's literally improved statistically every season until last year when he missed camp because of the holdout and then tore his knee up. Are you saying he sucks because he got paid?
To be fair, Aiyuk didn't have an off season. rust was expected.
Originally posted by Kolohe:If he is still here he will be rusty again this year also.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by miked1978:No I'm saying he's always been above average at best and greatly benefitted from the talent around him and when teams shifted some focus to him after he was paid as a #1 he didn't look like a #1WR to me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?
What are you even trying to argue here? He's literally improved statistically every season until last year when he missed camp because of the holdout and then tore his knee up. Are you saying he sucks because he got paid?
To be fair, Aiyuk didn't have an off season. rust was expected.
Originally posted by bud49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:If he is still here he will be rusty again this year also.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by miked1978:No I'm saying he's always been above average at best and greatly benefitted from the talent around him and when teams shifted some focus to him after he was paid as a #1 he didn't look like a #1WR to me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?
What are you even trying to argue here? He's literally improved statistically every season until last year when he missed camp because of the holdout and then tore his knee up. Are you saying he sucks because he got paid?
To be fair, Aiyuk didn't have an off season. rust was expected.
Originally posted by bud49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:If he is still here he will be rusty again this year also.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by miked1978:No I'm saying he's always been above average at best and greatly benefitted from the talent around him and when teams shifted some focus to him after he was paid as a #1 he didn't look like a #1WR to me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?
What are you even trying to argue here? He's literally improved statistically every season until last year when he missed camp because of the holdout and then tore his knee up. Are you saying he sucks because he got paid?
To be fair, Aiyuk didn't have an off season. rust was expected.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Some of you genuinely equate a torn ACL to a fully amputated leg. This isn't 1985.
Mid season return? lol
It's most likely he is fully available for camp but sits out preseason. And somewhat likely he misses the first two games. Literally every time the media checks in on his recovery they say he's ahead of schedule. They don't need to say that. They tell us Drake Jackson is way behind in those same conversations.
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by bud49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:If he is still here he will be rusty again this year also.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by miked1978:No I'm saying he's always been above average at best and greatly benefitted from the talent around him and when teams shifted some focus to him after he was paid as a #1 he didn't look like a #1WR to me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?
What are you even trying to argue here? He's literally improved statistically every season until last year when he missed camp because of the holdout and then tore his knee up. Are you saying he sucks because he got paid?
To be fair, Aiyuk didn't have an off season. rust was expected.
USELESS to this team now... he got his money and the hunger went away... this team needs to find those hungry players...
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by bud49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:If he is still here he will be rusty again this year also.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by miked1978:No I'm saying he's always been above average at best and greatly benefitted from the talent around him and when teams shifted some focus to him after he was paid as a #1 he didn't look like a #1WR to me.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?
What are you even trying to argue here? He's literally improved statistically every season until last year when he missed camp because of the holdout and then tore his knee up. Are you saying he sucks because he got paid?
To be fair, Aiyuk didn't have an off season. rust was expected.
USELESS to this team now... he got his money and the hunger went away... this team needs to find those hungry players...
You're amazing sir. Your ability to tell the future while also getting inside the psyche of the players from your couch is truly special.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Some of you genuinely equate a torn ACL to a fully amputated leg. This isn't 1985.
Mid season return? lol
It's most likely he is fully available for camp but sits out preseason. And somewhat likely he misses the first two games. Literally every time the media checks in on his recovery they say he's ahead of schedule. They don't need to say that. They tell us Drake Jackson is way behind in those same conversations.
ACL, MCL and other damage. He had a horrendous knee injury. It's not run of the mill. The surgical techniques are better and the science advanced. But his injury is really bad. No guarantee he will be the same with that.
