Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Are we even sure they are shopping him? I know what Ian Rapaport said but that could mean a # of things. It could simply mean the 49ers didn't hang up the phone the minute someone called to inquire about Aiyuk.

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I read they save a TON if they move him before April 1st. Thats when his new deal money really kicks in. If it's true about the Yorks financial recession this wouldn't surprise me.

Trade Pre-June 1:

$18,400,000 dead cap
$7,650,176 cap savings

Trade Post June 1:

$4,600,000 dead cap
$6,149,824 cap savings

well, this is correct,.... but not the whole thing.
as I understand it (and I could be wrong very eaasily), and focussing on the cap hit (savings are just a reference to the expected cap hit, so don't mean anything):

Trade Pre-June 1:

$18,4 M dead cap in 2025
$0,0M dead cap in 2026

Trade Post June 1:

$4,6M dead cap in 2025
$13,8M dead cap in 2026

the total cap hit in both cases is 18,4M. In the first case the total cap hit comes this year entirely and in the second one is divided btwin 2025 and 2026 but in both cases amounts to 18,4M.

But then there are the "contract triggers" occurring this year before June 1st. On April 1st a total $20,875M become fully guaranteed (2025 season's $4M and 2026's $16M). If I'm not wrong (and there are ample possibilities that I'm) these almost 21M have to be accounted against the cap, one way or another.
So if the trade is made before April 1st the total cap hit would be 18,4M (the 21M cap hit is not triggered).
But if the trade is made after this date you have to add the 21M:
- trade made btwin april 1st and June 1st: the 18,4M+20,9M= $39,3M come entirely this year
- trade made after June1st, the $39,3M cap hit is divided btwin this and next year

So, IF the niners want to trade Aiyuk, and the above is correct, they have to do it before April 1st.
As the current cap space after trading Deebo is around $34M (including Aiyuk's 10M cap hit), if they trade Aiyuk before April 1st they would still have $26M in cap space. While if they do it after, they would have just $5M remaining.

And then there are the injury guarantees. As OTC puts it:
"Another $31 million in injury guarantees vest on April 1, 2025."

I have no clue how this $31M count against the salary cap but I guess that it has to be also accounted one way or another. And this would make the post-April 1st trade even more disadvantageous.

All the information above was taken fron the OTC website:
https://overthecap.com/player/brandon-aiyuk/8765

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
If how he acted during contract negotiations doesn't show he's a Diva I don't know what it will take.

I see an above average player at best that's pretty low on the totem pole to defensive coordinators when game planning against the 49ers.

Watch the film even last season teams were doubling him and sliding coverage his way all the time. Big part of the reason JJ had that monster game against the rams was because so much attention was being paid to BA

Originally posted by miked1978:
Are we even sure they are shopping him? I know what Ian Rapaport said but that could mean a # of things. It could simply mean the 49ers didn't hang up the phone the minute someone called to inquire about Aiyuk.

The same could be said with Deebo and look what happened.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by miked1978:
Are we even sure they are shopping him? I know what Ian Rapaport said but that could mean a # of things. It could simply mean the 49ers didn't hang up the phone the minute someone called to inquire about Aiyuk.

The same could be said with Deebo and look what happened.

No. Even Lynch said that they gave Deebo permission to seek a trade. Nothing of the sorts has been said about BA.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by miked1978:
Are we even sure they are shopping him? I know what Ian Rapaport said but that could mean a # of things. It could simply mean the 49ers didn't hang up the phone the minute someone called to inquire about Aiyuk.

The same could be said with Deebo and look what happened.

This is 100% different from Deebo. Deebo publicly requested a trade and Lynch publicly said they would honor that request.

It's pretty clear that for Aiyuk, someone called, and we said "sure, how much you got?" and that's as far as we've gotten.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by miked1978:
Are we even sure they are shopping him? I know what Ian Rapaport said but that could mean a # of things. It could simply mean the 49ers didn't hang up the phone the minute someone called to inquire about Aiyuk.

The same could be said with Deebo and look what happened.

No. Even Lynch said that they gave Deebo permission to seek a trade. Nothing of the sorts has been said about BA.

The whole Rap report was completely overexaggerated. If you actually go back and listen to what he said he mentioned Lynch's comments about getting younger and said it's unlikely but you never know or variation of that.

There was nothing like "49ers are looking to move Aiyuk"

This team has never been ones to sell pennies on the dollar. Deebo situation is completely different.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by miked1978:
Are we even sure they are shopping him? I know what Ian Rapaport said but that could mean a # of things. It could simply mean the 49ers didn't hang up the phone the minute someone called to inquire about Aiyuk.

The same could be said with Deebo and look what happened.

This is 100% different from Deebo. Deebo publicly requested a trade and Lynch publicly said they would honor that request.

It's pretty clear that for Aiyuk, someone called, and we said "sure, how much you got?" and that's as far as we've gotten.

Exactly. A report of teams are calling somehow gets taken to "49ers looking to trade Aiyuk"

They have always taken the stance of "we'll always listen" doesn't mean they're going to say yes. If a team wasn't to blow them away with an offer they will say yes.

The issue is what do we really think a blow away offer would be given the current state of Aiyuk? It's teams looking to buy low. 49ers should be smarter. You didn't trade him when you had Deebo and JJ for 2 years. Why trade him for less now, take a dead cap hit and now you've got JJ for just one more year and moved Deebo? This draft isn't exactly filled with WR talent.

Originally posted by goatroppolo:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
If how he acted during contract negotiations doesn't show he's a Diva I don't know what it will take.

I see an above average player at best that's pretty low on the totem pole to defensive coordinators when game planning against the 49ers.

Watch the film even last season teams were doubling him and sliding coverage his way all the time. Big part of the reason JJ had that monster game against the rams was because so much attention was being paid to BA

Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?

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Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Some of the focus did shift to him after they started paying him like a #1 and how did that workout for him?

What are you even trying to argue here? He's literally improved statistically every season until last year when he missed camp because of the holdout and then tore his knee up. Are you saying he sucks because he got paid?
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Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by miked1978:
Are we even sure they are shopping him? I know what Ian Rapaport said but that could mean a # of things. It could simply mean the 49ers didn't hang up the phone the minute someone called to inquire about Aiyuk.

The same could be said with Deebo and look what happened.

This is 100% different from Deebo. Deebo publicly requested a trade and Lynch publicly said they would honor that request.

It's pretty clear that for Aiyuk, someone called, and we said "sure, how much you got?" and that's as far as we've gotten.

Exactly. A report of teams are calling somehow gets taken to "49ers looking to trade Aiyuk"

They have always taken the stance of "we'll always listen" doesn't mean they're going to say yes. If a team wasn't to blow them away with an offer they will say yes.

The issue is what do we really think a blow away offer would be given the current state of Aiyuk? It's teams looking to buy low. 49ers should be smarter. You didn't trade him when you had Deebo and JJ for 2 years. Why trade him for less now, take a dead cap hit and now you've got JJ for just one more year and moved Deebo? This draft isn't exactly filled with WR talent.

You'd be taking a large cap hit to trade Aiyuk at below the market value. You would have to assume that the compensation the 49ers might receive by trading BA now would be similar to Deebo (e.g. 5th round pick). Now, maybe it is best to sell low if it means shedding his contract? Would anyone even want that contract? I loved BA before his injury as a player and am hopeful he'll be back by the end of the season. Perhaps with the cap increasing his contract might not look so bad in future years. I don't think this roster is a championship one any longer though and so there should be no one we aren't willing to part with if the price is right.

My guess is it would take a pretty good offer for the Niners to trade Aiyuk. They would definitely need to go after another WR if he was traded so they would probably want at least a 3rd rounder which is unlikely given Aiyuk's injury.

Originally posted by genus49:
Exactly. A report of teams are calling somehow gets taken to "49ers looking to trade Aiyuk"

They have always taken the stance of "we'll always listen" doesn't mean they're going to say yes. If a team wasn't to blow them away with an offer they will say yes.

The issue is what do we really think a blow away offer would be given the current state of Aiyuk? It's teams looking to buy low. 49ers should be smarter. You didn't trade him when you had Deebo and JJ for 2 years. Why trade him for less now, take a dead cap hit and now you've got JJ for just one more year and moved Deebo? This draft isn't exactly filled with WR talent.

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Originally posted by mayo49:
Increases?

Yes. The niners paid him taking the cap hit and he doesn't have as much control without the will not re-sign threat, which puts more teams in the mix.

But the knee is what tanks his trade value

Originally posted by miked1978:
Are we even sure they are shopping him? I know what Ian Rapaport said but that could mean a # of things. It could simply mean the 49ers didn't hang up the phone the minute someone called to inquire about Aiyuk.

They're not. The report said other teams are checking in and the Niners will listen.

You can apply that logic to literally every player on the roster.