Brandon Aiyuk is a Quitter! Pick #25, 2020 NFL Draft

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm not trading Aiyuk for pennies on the dollar. You had the tough negotiations last offseason that hurt us and he's signed. You paid him for a reason.

He's easily our best WR in years and even when rusty he was key to helping our offense. Guys come back from injuries all the time. He's only 26 years old with modern science and rehab methods.

You don't leave the team devoid of talent when this WR class isn't even very good. Would be a super reactionary and bad move to trade him.

It is the nature of his specific knee injury that could be why we'd move him. Ton of uncertainty and risk if he will be the same player again. If he is not we are wasting 30m per year.

I'd move him if comp were fair.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm not trading Aiyuk for pennies on the dollar. You had the tough negotiations last offseason that hurt us and he's signed. You paid him for a reason.

He's easily our best WR in years and even when rusty he was key to helping our offense. Guys come back from injuries all the time. He's only 26 years old with modern science and rehab methods.

You don't leave the team devoid of talent when this WR class isn't even very good. Would be a super reactionary and bad move to trade him.

I still think he could be traded if the draft comp was fair.

Last year showed our offense works without him and with Deebo being a shell of himself.

Our offense was far from good last year. Look at how it worked with him before and then after Aiyuk got hurt. Big drop in production from the passing offense.

If you pay him trading him now would be gross mismanagement.

Not if you draft Burden in the 1st who will 100% be there at #11 even though I'd prefer him at #14 or #15.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm not trading Aiyuk for pennies on the dollar. You had the tough negotiations last offseason that hurt us and he's signed. You paid him for a reason.

He's easily our best WR in years and even when rusty he was key to helping our offense. Guys come back from injuries all the time. He's only 26 years old with modern science and rehab methods.

You don't leave the team devoid of talent when this WR class isn't even very good. Would be a super reactionary and bad move to trade him.

I still think he could be traded if the draft comp was fair.

Last year showed our offense works without him and with Deebo being a shell of himself.

Our offense was far from good last year. Look at how it worked with him before and then after Aiyuk got hurt. Big drop in production from the passing offense.

If you pay him trading him now would be gross mismanagement.

Not if you draft Burden in the 1st who will 100% be there at #11 even though I'd prefer him at #14 or #15.

What did Burden run in the combine?

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Deebo and Aiyuk are perfect examples that in today's NFL you don't pay top contracts to receivers that aren't generational talents.

I can understand paying top money to Jefferson, Chase, a prime Tyreek and maybe AJ Brown but if your WR isn't on that level you should try to trade him instead of giving him the huge contract that his huge ego will demand. After all, we see year in and year out that teams can find good receivers in the draft from the 1st to the 5th round.

If you are gonna give a top contract to a player on offense besides the QB and the LT that player should be the TE because a TE that can block and catch at an elite level is an unicorn and a huge mismatch for the defense.

I'm split on this. Receivers are overpaid, much like QBs. But the idea that you can just find "good" receivers anywhere from the 1st to the 5th, I disagree. Jefferson, Hill, Chase, and maybe Brown are my tier 1 guys. I have Aiyuk in the second tier with Amon Ra St. Brown (4th round guy). But although you CAN find these guys, they aren't plentiful. It's a huge gamble to think you will just find a guy to replace them- much like the tier 2 and 3 QBs.

In this draft, who are you taking to replace Aiyuk? That guy isn't even available in the 1st this year.

Furthermore there are a fair number of teams lacking in the receiver department. It's part of the reason that Deebo, despite of coming off his worst season (though 2022 is close) still has a market.

I think Burden is a better prospect than Aiyuk was when he was drafted. He should be available at #11-#16 in the 1st.

That wouldn't be the best move. We could use receiver help, but we don't need receiver help that bad on a run first team.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm not trading Aiyuk for pennies on the dollar. You had the tough negotiations last offseason that hurt us and he's signed. You paid him for a reason.

He's easily our best WR in years and even when rusty he was key to helping our offense. Guys come back from injuries all the time. He's only 26 years old with modern science and rehab methods.

You don't leave the team devoid of talent when this WR class isn't even very good. Would be a super reactionary and bad move to trade him.

I still think he could be traded if the draft comp was fair.

Last year showed our offense works without him and with Deebo being a shell of himself.

Our offense was far from good last year. Look at how it worked with him before and then after Aiyuk got hurt. Big drop in production from the passing offense.

If you pay him trading him now would be gross mismanagement.

We were a top 5 offensive team as far as moving the ball we were absolutely putrid at finishing drives. Top 5 team isn't far from good.

Kyle can still get yards. I don't think we were top 5, but we were definitely top 10 in yards. Fixing the O-line issues would help us with finishing drives and we'd be better off with Aiyuk, longterm than without him. This is about 2026 - 2028, not just what he provides in 2025. I hated the negotiations and how he acted, but unlike Deebo, Aiyuk does everything correct. He runs routes, he blocks, he can beat man coverage, he can eat in zone, etc. No sense in taking all that time to develop him just to ship him off for some day 2 pick.

A receiver room of Aiyuk, Pearsall, hopefully Jennings, Cowing, and then Kittle + CMC + Guerendo, can look really good with a more dominant run and pass blocking O-line.

It is clear that Aiyuk's attitude makes him someone we would like to be rid of. However, he is our attitude problem now, and it would be very costly to move him. For one thing, no one is going to give us the trade value we want based on the fact that he is recovering from a serious injury. We would be lucky to get a 4th, if that. Once he is recovered, and if he is playing even close to what he did in 2023, he would be worth a 2nd or low 1. Of course, if he was playing at that level, we would not trade him. So, there it is.

Aiyuk is damaged goods, hand him off to some team who will give us whatever.

Originally posted by dj43:
It is clear that Aiyuk's attitude makes him someone we would like to be rid of. However, he is our attitude problem now, and it would be very costly to move him. For one thing, no one is going to give us the trade value we want based on the fact that he is recovering from a serious injury. We would be lucky to get a 4th, if that. Once he is recovered, and if he is playing even close to what he did in 2023, he would be worth a 2nd or low 1. Of course, if he was playing at that level, we would not trade him. So, there it is.

They might still trade him if they weren't happy with his attitude even if he was playing better. I'd gladly take a 2nd or low 1st for him. I don't expect much from him next season but maybe by 2026 he'll be close to where he was. It would certainly be easier to trade him then.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Aiyuk is damaged goods, hand him off to some team who will give us whatever.

It will never happen. The reason is that it would result in $18.4M in dead money and a loss of $7.6M in cap space.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by dj43:
It is clear that Aiyuk's attitude makes him someone we would like to be rid of. However, he is our attitude problem now, and it would be very costly to move him. For one thing, no one is going to give us the trade value we want based on the fact that he is recovering from a serious injury. We would be lucky to get a 4th, if that. Once he is recovered, and if he is playing even close to what he did in 2023, he would be worth a 2nd or low 1. Of course, if he was playing at that level, we would not trade him. So, there it is.

They might still trade him if they weren't happy with his attitude even if he was playing better. I'd gladly take a 2nd or low 1st for him. I don't expect much from him next season but maybe by 2026 he'll be close to where he was. It would certainly be easier to trade him then.

And if he is good in 2026, why trade him?

Let's hope this injury will humble him and bring him back to reality.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Aiyuk is damaged goods, hand him off to some team who will give us whatever.

It will never happen. The reason is that it would result in $18.4M in dead money and a loss of $7.6M in cap space.

Its not never....at least according to Lynch.

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm not trading Aiyuk for pennies on the dollar. You had the tough negotiations last offseason that hurt us and he's signed. You paid him for a reason.

He's easily our best WR in years and even when rusty he was key to helping our offense. Guys come back from injuries all the time. He's only 26 years old with modern science and rehab methods.

You don't leave the team devoid of talent when this WR class isn't even very good. Would be a super reactionary and bad move to trade him.

I still think he could be traded if the draft comp was fair.

Last year showed our offense works without him and with Deebo being a shell of himself.

Our offense was far from good last year. Look at how it worked with him before and then after Aiyuk got hurt. Big drop in production from the passing offense.

If you pay him trading him now would be gross mismanagement.

Not if you draft Burden in the 1st who will 100% be there at #11 even though I'd prefer him at #14 or #15.

What did Burden run in the combine?

4.41 I believe

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Aiyuk is damaged goods, hand him off to some team who will give us whatever.

It will never happen. The reason is that it would result in $18.4M in dead money and a loss of $7.6M in cap space.

One can dream, can't he?

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Aiyuk is damaged goods, hand him off to some team who will give us whatever.

It will never happen. The reason is that it would result in $18.4M in dead money and a loss of $7.6M in cap space.

One can dream, can't he?

TBH, I would move off him if we could get value. His attitude about the negotiations put him on my "Get rid of..." list. Of course, there are other considerations.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
for sure it's all off season noise, but that trade CMC before BA is crazy talk

It isn't, as CMC is far a more logical candidate for a rebuilding team to unload. They probably won't do this as they value CMC too highly, but at the end of the day CMC is an NFL RB with history of injuries and has a condition that isn't good long-term. He is also making the most money at his position.

Aiyuk is younger, has less wear and tear even with the existing torn MCL and ACL, and is not making top money for his position.

What will happen however is that CMC will stay on the Niners until he is fully broken (hopefully not this season but in a couple) and they won't get anything for him. To be fair I'm not sure any team will touch him right now either with his contract and possibility that his achilles snaps and hes never the same RB again

This...

Your talking about a 29 year old running back on the downhill that already had 2 games to show what he had left and it didn't look good vs a wr going into his prime...

I would bank much more on yuk being good again than CMC.

They are probably listening to offers on pretty much everyone but purdy, bosa, puni, Lenoir and the rookies...

I don't see the rush in wanting to get Aiyuk out, especially with Deebo gone. I think he can be complimented if we can somehow get another borderline #1 or somehow get a bonafide #1 and have him be a solid #2. Who knows how much his injury took away from him but if we can get 2023 BA back plus another actual receiver who can beat man... That's enough. Especially with George and CMC hopefully fully healthy.