Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:No I absolutely looked at the whole draft.
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:I absolutely say no a first round receiver is non starter for me and on top of that they add another WR at #80 no thanks.
If can get a 3rd and a 4th for him - get rid of him.
Not because I don't like him, but there is huge risk he will not be the same player after that injury - you know.. the player we paid 30m per year for.
It may mean going Burden in the 1st but since I like Burden a lot and he is plug and play ready to start at X I don't mind lol.
Plenty of picks to do trenches with the added 5th from Deebo and hypothetically say a 3rd and 4th for Aiyuk. Example below how it could work assuming no trades except realistic small trade back in the 1st. With the added picks can see below that can easily try and trade back again with one of those picks to accumulate more picks this year or stock up picks for next year.
Can trade back with Indy to #14 (in front of AZ as they could easily want to pair Burden with Harrison Jr) so they can secure Warren and get their pick at #80. So we'll say a 3rd and 4th for Aiyuk is at middle of each round.which is pick #81 and #118 + Deebo 5th at #148.
1. 14 - Luther Burden III WR (immediate plug/play starter replaces Aiyuk just as good and we get him right away and not wait til Thxgiving for Aiyuk to return)
2. 43 - Princely Umanmielen / Donovan Ezeraiku EDGE (high upside bookend opposite Bosa)
3. 75 - Darius Alexander DL (first beast added to rebuild our DL)
3. 80 - Savion Williams WR / Jayden Higgens WR (met with both at combine)
3. 81 - Jamaree Caldwell DL (second beast to the DL - huge NT to anchor in the middle of our wide 9 and eat up double teams and defend the run)
3. 99 - Anthony Belton OT (high upside LT replacement for Trent - can play G in the meantime if needed. Or move McKivitz inside and start Belton at RT)
4. 112 - CJ West DL (third beast to the DL - met with him at Senior Bowl - DJ Jones clone but better with more pass rush/penetration ability and good against the run)
4. 118 - Demetrius Knight LB (Greenlaw replacement)
4. 138 - RJ Harvey RB (ran a 4.45 at combine super good RB. Met with him at combine)
4. 139 - Malachi Moore S (depth and could challenge Jayir Brown as starter. Jayir insurance here in case of regression)
5. 148 - Jake Majors C (center prospect to groom and hopefully be better than Brendel asap)
6. 189 - Patrick Jenkins TL (fourth beast to the DL - underrated DL pass rusher type 290-300 lbs dominated with Tulane in that conference)
7. 228 - Kyle Williams WR (just ran a sub 4.40 40 at the combine - has really good tape at Wash St - if have to do small trade up to get him do it)
7. 255 - Nikolas Martin LB (OK State LB met with him at combine ran a fast 40 and good tackler. Now we have LB depth)
Who says no to that draft? And that's with only ONE small trade back to #14 in the 1st round + we pick up THREE WRs to replace Aiyuk and Deebo while grabbing FOUR new beasts on the DL and a top EDGE. Now WR, DL, LB, S. Only thing didn't get is a G and TE2 so sign one of each in FA middle tier to bridge to next year's draft. Plus McKivitz can move inside if we need him too since we get Belton.
Just showing how by trading Aiyuk next can go WR in 1st and even 3rd round and still address trenches and depth at other positions in a big way. Sub out Williams/Higgens in the 3rd if you want with one of the Georgia Gs Tate Ratledge/Fairchild if you want more trenches. Either way can still grab Burden in the 1st and be just fine with the added picks from Aiyuk trade.
Don't even need Aiyuk anymore and certainly won't miss him with that draft.
Lol as if you didn't even look at the rest of the draft with 4 DL and 2LB an EDGE an OT a C. Also if Aiyuk is gone then we need top talent at WR just as much as DL/OL. And what if Pearsall or Jennings get hurt? We have ZERO depth with Dick and Squat behind them. We need a top WR worse than the year we traded up for Aiyuk in the 1st round. Pearsall and Jennings and a 4th rd WR are not going to cut it to compete next year.
The WR landscape has changed with no Aiyuk or Deebo. Adapt your mind to the new situation - if you are able.
Lots of ways to skin a cat to get better - clearly you do not have a creative mind - that small trade back netted us #80 so essentially got two of the best WRs in the draft for for the price of #11. Said sub out WR at #80 and grab Tuten RB that just ran 4.32 or Elijah Arroyo TE or Tate Rattledge G or Fairchild G or whatever the hell player you want. Point is we can address all of our needs in the trenches in THIS draft WHILE grabbing a WR in the 1st round IF we trade Aiyuk.
Losing Deebo nor Aiyuk necessitates using a first round pick in this draft at WR.
It has nothing to due with lack of creativity it makes no sense for a run first team to continuely invest premium draft capital & huge amounts of cap room in the receiver position.
Disagree esp. when we in this scenario have just traded our two top WRs plus we get an additional pick at #80 in the trade back to #14 which easily provides the luxury of drafting a WR at #14. You mentioned premium... well we do not have any premium WRs on our roster if Aiyuk is dealt. That is a problem. Sign Devante and things change but looks like we want to get younger and cheaper and Devante does neither.
Thing is IF we ever did go WR in the 1st round - with Aiyuk and Deebo gone it is not a luxury pick anymore. We ****ing need a premium top WR or WR prospect I'm all for it at #14 if we got Indy's #80 as well. Still THIRTEEN more picks to draft all the positions that would make you happy. But again happy to go Tre Harris in the 2nd (but I like the other positional talent there at #43 a lot better) or Savion Williams/Jayden Higgens in the 3rd (they may not be there though) .. so what do we do?
So let me ask you - how do you propose addressing the WR position and giving a premium X receiver to our QB in Brock who is coming off a regression season if the only WR options he has is Jennings and Pearsall? We are not going to compete for the Super Bowl with Jennings and Pearsall as our top two WRs and Cowing imo. And if one of them gets hurt we are done.
[ Edited by Ezekiel38 on Mar 1, 2025 at 9:56 PM ]