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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
How is this so confusing? I don't think it's a difficult concept.

On paper Ceedee has put up huge numbers while BAs numbers are speculative. Most realistic observers (like myself) would agree that BA would put up bigger numbers than he does in a different offense...but it is still speculative. Their talent levels are roughly equivalent.

Cede Lamb is 6'2" with a bigger frame. Aiyuk is listed at 6'0" but measured barely under at the combine. Already not the same guy. The numbers put up on yards and TD's are better for Lamb. Cede plays faster than his 40 time on the deep ball. Timed speed they are roughly the similar. But Cede plays faster especially deep. I'd say Lamb is certainly better. I would not put Aiyuk at his level.

Aiyuk has much better #s in terms of averages like YPC. Aiyuk is a more crisp route runner and has the wingspan of a guy 4 inches taller than him. Ceedee isn't a true burner, neither is BA. I think it's similar. I won't say BA is better but I can't say Ceedee clearly is better either.

I would say Lamb is clearly better. But we can disagree on that. The taller frame, more stats on yards and TD's and better deep GAME SPEED (they are close on timed speed) make him better IMO.
You can watch their highlights, the look identical… except for the run blocking

I would say going after the deep ball Lamb is better. He plays faster in GAME SPEED. He also has that tall 6'2" frame to go up and get the ball. I'd put Lamb in the elite category. Aiyuk is in the very good category. But not the top group IMO.
Sounds like you don't watch much of lamb and Aiyuk
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Originally posted by Leathaface:
I agree. I also think BA needs to think about his 3rd contract and not just this one. If he goes to some second or third rate franchise he may ultimately suffer from fading into obscurity on a bad team/offense (Steelers) in a few years. Despite getting more $ now he will suffer in the long term.

Anyway, I agree with your sentiment. These guys need to understand they have a good thing going and not mess it up by trying to break the market. He's not Bosa.

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No way I am giving him anywhere near Lamb money. That's ridiculous imo.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
How is this so confusing? I don't think it's a difficult concept.

On paper Ceedee has put up huge numbers while BAs numbers are speculative. Most realistic observers (like myself) would agree that BA would put up bigger numbers than he does in a different offense...but it is still speculative. Their talent levels are roughly equivalent.

Cede Lamb is 6'2" with a bigger frame. Aiyuk is listed at 6'0" but measured barely under at the combine. Already not the same guy. The numbers put up on yards and TD's are better for Lamb. Cede plays faster than his 40 time on the deep ball. Timed speed they are roughly the similar. But Cede plays faster especially deep. I'd say Lamb is certainly better. I would not put Aiyuk at his level.

Aiyuk has much better #s in terms of averages like YPC. Aiyuk is a more crisp route runner and has the wingspan of a guy 4 inches taller than him. Ceedee isn't a true burner, neither is BA. I think it's similar. I won't say BA is better but I can't say Ceedee clearly is better either.

I would say Lamb is clearly better. But we can disagree on that. The taller frame, more stats on yards and TD's and better deep GAME SPEED (they are close on timed speed) make him better IMO.
You can watch their highlights, the look identical… except for the run blocking

I would say going after the deep ball Lamb is better. He plays faster in GAME SPEED. He also has that tall 6'2" frame to go up and get the ball. I'd put Lamb in the elite category. Aiyuk is in the very good category. But not the top group IMO.
Sounds like you don't watch much of lamb and Aiyuk

I watch a lot of both and Lamb is better. Aiyuk has no claim to being at that level.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
No way I am giving him anywhere near Lamb money. That's ridiculous imo.

Yes I agree. You are right.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
No way I am giving him anywhere near Lamb money. That's ridiculous imo.

Yes I agree. You are right.

And from what we know the FO let BA find this out for himself on the trade market.

It seems nobody had offered him over 28m and we have come very close to that so I'm not sure what the hold up is. I think BA must have some seriously dumb people in his ear.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Yea I was initially thinking the 49ers were the ones being unreasonable but I am starting to think he really doesn't understand or care about the 49ers cap situation...which should matter to him as it relates to his winning and success as well.

He said blatantly early offseason when speaking on his contract negotiations through the media with Ryan Clark that "I don't care about no one but me" and "you can't have a Lambo if you can't pay for one". That is cool but do that in NE
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
And from what we know the FO let BA find this out for himself on the trade market.

It seems nobody had offered him over 28m and we have come very close to that so I'm not sure what the hold up is. I think BA must have some seriously dumb people in his ear.

The same ones that spoke as if he were a free agent early offseason. He's under contract and if you want to be one then get free and get paid in NE right?
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
And from what we know the FO let BA find this out for himself on the trade market.

It seems nobody had offered him over 28m and we have come very close to that so I'm not sure what the hold up is. I think BA must have some seriously dumb people in his ear.

The same ones that spoke as if he were a free agent early offseason. He's under contract and if you want to be one then get free and get paid in NE right?

Yes, this is their thinking lol. And intelligently imo, the FO let his side go seek a trade and contract. Should have been a wake up call given the results, but apparently not?
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
How is this so confusing? I don't think it's a difficult concept.

On paper Ceedee has put up huge numbers while BAs numbers are speculative. Most realistic observers (like myself) would agree that BA would put up bigger numbers than he does in a different offense...but it is still speculative. Their talent levels are roughly equivalent.

Cede Lamb is 6'2" with a bigger frame. Aiyuk is listed at 6'0" but measured barely under at the combine. Already not the same guy. The numbers put up on yards and TD's are better for Lamb. Cede plays faster than his 40 time on the deep ball. Timed speed they are roughly the similar. But Cede plays faster especially deep. I'd say Lamb is certainly better. I would not put Aiyuk at his level.

We know, you said exact same thing 3 pages back

He was debating me and so I answered him. Specifically.

You also don't need to chime in on every post I make on the board. Seems like quite a hobby for you.

Then stop continually making stupid posts
Originally posted by Leathaface:
You're right. That's a valid argument. But I think watching his route running and understanding of the offense/spacing will show he is a big part of (maybe as important as CMC) the success. Not to mention his run blocking.

Some people cause chaos, some people benefit from chaos...

I think BA benefits from what is around him, much more than most players.

Clearly BA benefits more from the system, and players around him than the other guys he wants to be paid similar too.

BA is a good player to have, but he wants generational WR money...and he simply is not that...he is replaceable.

Maybe I am wrong, maybe I am hella wrong... the 49ers might not yet have a replacement for him, but I think the guy will be replaced in a year or two.
I wonder if 9ers would carry him on the roster if the contract situation isn't resolved by the start of next week. Since he's sitting-in, does this mean they'll have to PUP him?
Originally posted by father49er:
I wonder if 9ers would carry him on the roster if the contract situation isn't resolved by the start of next week. Since he's sitting-in, does this mean they'll have to PUP him?

They will carry him and do it gladly. You either play here or nowhere
Originally posted by fropwns:
Remember, Aiyuk does not see himself that way.

I think this is the key. It's not about what any of us think, or hell, even what the 49ers' FO thinks. BA sees himself as a top tier WR like those other guys, and believes he should be paid as such. I think he's wrong. I think he misses the forest for the trees, but ce la vie.
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