⛏ SF 49ERS vs CLE BROWNS 🐶 Pregame Thread - 2019 Season Week 5 | Page 74

Dr_Bill_Walsh · 2019-09-22T16:32:11-07:00

(MNF after BYE week) Please post all your pregame news, observations & discussions here. This thread will be locked come gameday, to be superseded by an Official Gameday Thread. In cases where it is appropriate to merge threads (like if an injury happens and everyone reports it at the same time) mods will do so.

Oct 4, 2019 at 11:30 AM

#1096

9erguy
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Originally posted by badguy_1:

A Browns fan made this interesting video highlighting Baker's weakness against the blitz. Apparently he is horrible when his first read is taken away and he thinks pressure is coming his way. Hopefully Saleh is smart enough to recognize this.

Saleh is a genius.

Oct 4, 2019 at 11:33 AM

#1097

PA49ersfan
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by GustavoFring:
71 pages of comments

aint even monday yet

Waiting til MNF after a bye week is cruel and unusual punishment from the NFL Schedule makers...and to top it off they give us a friggin big divisional game on a short week.

What's crazy is they did it to us and they're also making Cleveland play on a short week vs Seattle. Don't get that logic at all...

Shouldn't let TNF teams play teams who play the following Monday. Seems like a clear disadvantage.

Of course it is a disadvantage. Who has ever claimed NFL isn't bias. Except for the NFL saying it's not biased. And here we are following it like the good little lap dogs we are. Lol

[ Edited by PA49ersfan on Oct 4, 2019 at 11:36 AM ]

Oct 4, 2019 at 11:38 AM

#1098

qnnhan7
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Use the same game plan against Winston and Rudolph against Mayfield. Make him stay in the pocket, confuse him with disguised coverages.

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:00 PM

#1099

FootballPro
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If the Browns can't get their running game going then my Brownies will probably lose unless the 9ers turn it over like crazy.

The Browns defense is very good but I worry about Shanny being creative. We loved him over here when he had noodle arm Brian Hoyer magically looking like a legit franchise qb.

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:04 PM

#1100

FootballPro
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The 2014 Browns were sitting in first place at 7-4 with Shanny leading an explosive offense without any legit playmakers, then the front office threw a wrench in it by forcing Manziel in.

[ Edited by FootballPro on Oct 4, 2019 at 1:05 PM ]

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:11 PM

#1101

genus49
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Originally posted by FootballPro:
If the Browns can't get their running game going then my Brownies will probably lose unless the 9ers turn it over like crazy.

The Browns defense is very good but I worry about Shanny being creative. We loved him over here when he had noodle arm Brian Hoyer magically looking like a legit franchise qb.

I think stopping the run is key for both teams. It will be interesting to see who is able to do it better. I think Chubb is the most talented back between the two teams but 49ers scheme and their depth at the position has done a pretty good job to get the run game going.

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:18 PM

#1102

Boldjames
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Originally posted by badguy_1:

A Browns fan made this interesting video highlighting Baker's weakness against the blitz. Apparently he is horrible when his first read is taken away and he thinks pressure is coming his way. Hopefully Saleh is smart enough to recognize this.

It is obvious enough that the media knows it. Baker mayfield has a quick arm but he's a one read QB

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:31 PM

#1103

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Originally posted by FootballPro:
The 2014 Browns were sitting in first place at 7-4 with Shanny leading an explosive offense without any legit playmakers, then the front office threw a wrench in it by forcing Manziel in.

man I wouldnt understand why ownership would change something when your team whose been terrible forever is in 1st place at 7-4

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:33 PM

#1104

FootballPro
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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by FootballPro:
The 2014 Browns were sitting in first place at 7-4 with Shanny leading an explosive offense without any legit playmakers, then the front office threw a wrench in it by forcing Manziel in.

man I wouldnt understand why ownership would change something when your team whose been terrible forever is in 1st place at 7-4

Because we're the Browns

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:35 PM

#1105

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Originally posted by FootballPro:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by FootballPro:
The 2014 Browns were sitting in first place at 7-4 with Shanny leading an explosive offense without any legit playmakers, then the front office threw a wrench in it by forcing Manziel in.

man I wouldnt understand why ownership would change something when your team whose been terrible forever is in 1st place at 7-4

Because we're the Browns

lmao thats what I was thinking but I didnt wanna start no beef

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:39 PM

#1106

billbird2111
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Originally posted by badguy_1:

A Browns fan made this interesting video highlighting Baker's weakness against the blitz. Apparently he is horrible when his first read is taken away and he thinks pressure is coming his way. Hopefully Saleh is smart enough to recognize this.

I don't know. If you take a look at the Ravens-Browns highlights package, you'll see Mayfield scanning the field more than a few times for a second and third option. He's not as successful as he is on the first read throws, but he still manages to make the throw and get results.

What really concerns me is the edge pressure the Browns were putting on Baltimore's QB. They were in his face all game long.

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:42 PM

#1107

billbird2111
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Originally posted by FootballPro:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by FootballPro:
The 2014 Browns were sitting in first place at 7-4 with Shanny leading an explosive offense without any legit playmakers, then the front office threw a wrench in it by forcing Manziel in.

man I wouldnt understand why ownership would change something when your team whose been terrible forever is in 1st place at 7-4

Because we're the Browns

Welcome to our forum, sir.

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:42 PM

#1108

POG_
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Originally posted by FootballPro:
Because we're the Browns

So are we lol

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:49 PM

#1109

FootballPro
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Baker can definitely go through his progressions and has proven that. His glaring weaknesses are trying to do way too much and not trusting his o-line. PFF has him graded as one of the top qbs in the league during the first half of games but near the bottom for the second half. In close games or games that the Browns are trailing he reverts back to his gunslinger mentality, believing he can make every throw.

Oct 4, 2019 at 1:53 PM

#1110

Sanfran_chrisco
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Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:

Originally posted by FootballPro:
Because we're the Browns

So are we lol

no that's sus