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Originally posted by Aacadena:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Jonny, fantastic as usual, only better. Showing how JG works their D is awesome. You have really made this not just enjoyable and fun but a great learning experience also...each and every week. But this was a capper. Go 9ers. And thanks again, JD.

I credit Jimmy for making 49ers film fun to watch again. Watching Beathard get beat to S*** in year 1 and 2 was awful. It really helped that he capped the year with a nearly flawless performance. Like, it's hard to describe what a difference in pocket passing he is from, say, Kaepernick. CK I was always wanting him to get through progressions quicker, look off defenders all the things JG does so well. It's watching the passing game as it's designed to be.

Amazing going from CK to Jimmy G. CK would struggle to read a defense, and its easy to see why Kyle didn't think he'd be a good fit for this offense. I remember when crabtree just left the niners and in an interview he said he hoped CK would keep his head in the books to study the playbook.
I share everybody's peeve about Kaep. He couldn't read defenses anywhere near as fast as Jimmy.

But also keep in mind, Jimmy has WR's that Kaep can only dream of. Emanuel, Kittle, DeeBo and Juice. All fast guys that can beat man and great hands to catch in zone traffic. Vernon Davis and Delanie walker were stone handed pass recievers, and Ted Ginn and Crabtree weren't reliable pass catchers either.

I'm very happy with Jimmy, don't get me wrong. He's our best chance at a Lombardie since Kaep, but Kaep was shortchanged by Baalke in my opinion once he lost his main weapons to free agency.
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Kap was too much a of a meat head in the weight room instead of focusing on the mental aspect of QB play and more technical stuff, I suppose.

There were also whispers that coaches were annoyed that he spent too much time lifting and not enough time studying.

Very sad. I saw the same thing. He wasn't doing his homework on the QB side, he was more into the running back side - and treated the QB position as more of a runningback mentality than a QB mentality. Lamar Jackson, on the other hand, looks to be where I would have thought Kaep could have been - but for his Meathead-edness.
Originally posted by Giedi:
I share everybody's peeve about Kaep. He couldn't read defenses anywhere near as fast as Jimmy.

But also keep in mind, Jimmy has WR's that Kaep can only dream of. Emanuel, Kittle, DeeBo and Juice. All fast guys that can beat man and great hands to catch in zone traffic. Vernon Davis and Delanie walker were stone handed pass recievers, and Ted Ginn and Crabtree weren't reliable pass catchers either.

I'm very happy with Jimmy, don't get me wrong. He's our best chance at a Lombardie since Kaep, but Kaep was shortchanged by Baalke in my opinion once he lost his main weapons to free agency.

They didn't remake the offense to take advantage of his skills like they did in Baltimore with Jackson where they realized that if they wanted to win they had to quit trying to make him a drop back QB. They changed it to utilize his running skills which they should have done with Kaep. Like you said, they didn't have great receivers and passing wasn't his strong point. He had an incredible arm but you never knew where the ball was going.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by ProfessorKel:
Great stuff as usual! This is becoming my favorite aspect of the Webzone.

Which brings the million-dollar question: What did Seattle do differently in the second half (on offense) that made this game closer than it felt?

And how correctable were our mistakes on defense? In real time, it simply looked like Akhello was the weak link.

Some of it was that when you're in zone, the longer the QB has the ball the more those zones are stretched. We got Seattle into a ton of 3rd downs but lost containment on almost all of them, which stretches zones and they had guys open.

Then, when in man-coverage, we didn't play tight enough. The frustrating thing is that K'waun William's got beat hurt the exact same play on 2 3rd downs on the same drive.

Like, it was literally the same plays. Same formation, same pre-snap movement, same concept
.

I noticed that too. That was a new wrinkle. Williams is usually one of our better cover CB's.
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Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by a49erfan77:
Originally posted by ProfessorKel:
Lol. No doubt, but we contained him well in the first half -- or more appropriately, shut him out.

In the Seahawks vs. Rams and Seahawks vs. Cardinals games, Wilson looked human through all 4 quarters. I'm curious what we didn't do [schematically] in the latter 3rd and 4th quarters (on defense).

Just looking at the numbers, the big difference is the sacks. Rams and Cards got 5 sacks each. He was able to get away for 7 scrambles vs the Niners and was only sacked once.

It's not just sacks but scheme. Here, JD highlights a few things the Cards did to pwn Wilson all game.

Starts @ 3:20


Scheme:
1. Late defensive rotations (S) to confuse RW when Seattle wasn't in a large personnel package
2. Plan for Fann as an extra TE (dial up blitzes with man)
3. Run blitz and used a favorable alignment esp. to Fann's side

In contrast when Seattle put a man in motion versus the Niners in the 2nd half we didn't disquise anything and gave a clear indication to RW what we were going to do. So basically the exact opposite of the success AR had And they were aggressive and sending folks after RW instead of us being passive and having g guy spy on RW.

Was it injuries to the DB's that limited Saleh's options in disgusing the coverages? I know we had some injuries to the DB's in addtion to losing Demontre, Ford and Blair. In other words, if the DB's don't know the coverages well, disguising the coverages puts them even more out of position if it's not done right.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Aacadena:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Jonny, fantastic as usual, only better. Showing how JG works their D is awesome. You have really made this not just enjoyable and fun but a great learning experience also...each and every week. But this was a capper. Go 9ers. And thanks again, JD.

I credit Jimmy for making 49ers film fun to watch again. Watching Beathard get beat to S*** in year 1 and 2 was awful. It really helped that he capped the year with a nearly flawless performance. Like, it's hard to describe what a difference in pocket passing he is from, say, Kaepernick. CK I was always wanting him to get through progressions quicker, look off defenders all the things JG does so well. It's watching the passing game as it's designed to be.

Amazing going from CK to Jimmy G. CK would struggle to read a defense, and its easy to see why Kyle didn't think he'd be a good fit for this offense. I remember when crabtree just left the niners and in an interview he said he hoped CK would keep his head in the books to study the playbook.
I share everybody's peeve about Kaep. He couldn't read defenses anywhere near as fast as Jimmy.

But also keep in mind, Jimmy has WR's that Kaep can only dream of. Emanuel, Kittle, DeeBo and Juice. All fast guys that can beat man and great hands to catch in zone traffic. Vernon Davis and Delanie walker were stone handed pass recievers, and Ted Ginn and Crabtree weren't reliable pass catchers either.

I'm very happy with Jimmy, don't get me wrong. He's our best chance at a Lombardie since Kaep, but Kaep was shortchanged by Baalke in my opinion once he lost his main weapons to free agency.

doesn't matter what receivers you have. if you don't have those important key mental QB traits then it doesn't matter; as well as the footwork to go with it
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by ProfessorKel:
Great stuff as usual! This is becoming my favorite aspect of the Webzone.

Which brings the million-dollar question: What did Seattle do differently in the second half (on offense) that made this game closer than it felt?

And how correctable were our mistakes on defense? In real time, it simply looked like Akhello was the weak link.

Some of it was that when you're in zone, the longer the QB has the ball the more those zones are stretched. We got Seattle into a ton of 3rd downs but lost containment on almost all of them, which stretches zones and they had guys open.

Then, when in man-coverage, we didn't play tight enough. The frustrating thing is that K'waun William's got beat hurt the exact same play on 2 3rd downs on the same drive.

Like, it was literally the same plays. Same formation, same pre-snap movement, same concept
.

I noticed that too. That was a new wrinkle. Williams is usually one of our better cover CB's.

what was a new wrinkle? Williams got beat on consecutive out-routes on 3rd down like twice in a row lol
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by ProfessorKel:
Great stuff as usual! This is becoming my favorite aspect of the Webzone.

Which brings the million-dollar question: What did Seattle do differently in the second half (on offense) that made this game closer than it felt?

And how correctable were our mistakes on defense? In real time, it simply looked like Akhello was the weak link.

Some of it was that when you're in zone, the longer the QB has the ball the more those zones are stretched. We got Seattle into a ton of 3rd downs but lost containment on almost all of them, which stretches zones and they had guys open.

Then, when in man-coverage, we didn't play tight enough. The frustrating thing is that K'waun William's got beat hurt the exact same play on 2 3rd downs on the same drive.

Like, it was literally the same plays. Same formation, same pre-snap movement, same concept
.

I noticed that too. That was a new wrinkle. Williams is usually one of our better cover CB's.

what was a new wrinkle? Williams got beat on consecutive out-routes on 3rd down like twice in a row lol

Him getting beat badly.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by ProfessorKel:
Great stuff as usual! This is becoming my favorite aspect of the Webzone.

Which brings the million-dollar question: What did Seattle do differently in the second half (on offense) that made this game closer than it felt?

And how correctable were our mistakes on defense? In real time, it simply looked like Akhello was the weak link.

Some of it was that when you're in zone, the longer the QB has the ball the more those zones are stretched. We got Seattle into a ton of 3rd downs but lost containment on almost all of them, which stretches zones and they had guys open.

Then, when in man-coverage, we didn't play tight enough. The frustrating thing is that K'waun William's got beat hurt the exact same play on 2 3rd downs on the same drive.

Like, it was literally the same plays. Same formation, same pre-snap movement, same concept
.

I noticed that too. That was a new wrinkle. Williams is usually one of our better cover CB's.

what was a new wrinkle? Williams got beat on consecutive out-routes on 3rd down like twice in a row lol

Him getting beat badly.

Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by ProfessorKel:
Great stuff as usual! This is becoming my favorite aspect of the Webzone.

Which brings the million-dollar question: What did Seattle do differently in the second half (on offense) that made this game closer than it felt?

And how correctable were our mistakes on defense? In real time, it simply looked like Akhello was the weak link.

Some of it was that when you're in zone, the longer the QB has the ball the more those zones are stretched. We got Seattle into a ton of 3rd downs but lost containment on almost all of them, which stretches zones and they had guys open.

Then, when in man-coverage, we didn't play tight enough. The frustrating thing is that K'waun William's got beat hurt the exact same play on 2 3rd downs on the same drive.

Like, it was literally the same plays. Same formation, same pre-snap movement, same concept
.

I noticed that too. That was a new wrinkle. Williams is usually one of our better cover CB's.

what was a new wrinkle? Williams got beat on consecutive out-routes on 3rd down like twice in a row lol

Him getting beat badly.


LOL

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Originally posted by SkyZer0:
doesn't matter what receivers you have. if you don't have those important key mental QB traits then it doesn't matter; as well as the footwork to go with it

It doesn't matter if you have Joe Montana back there, if there's no Dwight Clark, there's no Catch
Originally posted by RabidNiner:
I love knowing that Shanny and Salah are watching this film, preparing for the same matchups next week.

Enjoy Philly, Pete!

It might end up being an advantage that we played Seattle in week 17. Shanny can spend the bye week prepping for the Eagles, knowing he JUST did all the film work on Seattle the week prior. Then if the Eagles are knocked out, the next week can just be more Seattle prep.
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by Aacadena:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Jonny, fantastic as usual, only better. Showing how JG works their D is awesome. You have really made this not just enjoyable and fun but a great learning experience also...each and every week. But this was a capper. Go 9ers. And thanks again, JD.

I credit Jimmy for making 49ers film fun to watch again. Watching Beathard get beat to S*** in year 1 and 2 was awful. It really helped that he capped the year with a nearly flawless performance. Like, it's hard to describe what a difference in pocket passing he is from, say, Kaepernick. CK I was always wanting him to get through progressions quicker, look off defenders all the things JG does so well. It's watching the passing game as it's designed to be.

Amazing going from CK to Jimmy G. CK would struggle to read a defense, and its easy to see why Kyle didn't think he'd be a good fit for this offense. I remember when crabtree just left the niners and in an interview he said he hoped CK would keep his head in the books to study the playbook.

Lol did he really say that?

Yeah, said it on NFL network. It was a question long the lines if how he felt about his former team and quarterback and this was his response.

"I'm an Oakland Raider now. I don't like to touch on that. It's kind of a sensitive topic. ... I don't like to go back to the past," Crabtree said. "I haven't talked to Kap since I left. ... And I hope he get in those books, and watch that film and know what he's doing out there."

Kaep was always in the weight-room. I always got the impression that he wanted to be 'one of the guys' instead of camping out in the film room and being a QB. To me that's what hurt him the most and held him back from having a higher degree of success in the league. He had it in him but for some reason didn't take advantage of it. I mean, look at Brady's body...not impressive at all...but he's a film room junkie which probably has a lot to do with his crazy fast release. He knows whats going on every play all the time.
Originally posted by SkyZer0:
Originally posted by raywm3:
Great film review. I don't come away as enamored though as you. I do think we looked quite good but sooo many of Jimmy's completions were so, so tight into tiny windows. Which is awesome, but I just worry that a defensive adjustment by Seattle in the Playoffs will be enough to shut us down some. I didn't see us running wide open on too many plays.

what defensive adjustment is there to make if the windows are already tight? if he's already beating you with tight window throws what more can you do?

That's where having the fastest guy off the snap in the league comes in handy. Heal up Ford! Heal up!
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by RabidNiner:
I love knowing that Shanny and Salah are watching this film, preparing for the same matchups next week.

Enjoy Philly, Pete!

It might end up being an advantage that we played Seattle in week 17. Shanny can spend the bye week prepping for the Eagles, knowing he JUST did all the film work on Seattle the week prior. Then if the Eagles are knocked out, the next week can just be more Seattle prep.

Good point 99. I be that is exactly what he is doing.
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