DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Using the "it was unavoidable" argument doesn't mean he's not injury prone.

"Injury prone" only matters if the dude gets injured frequently or not...regardless of why.

If Bosa gets his ankle "unavoidably" rolled on every other game and misses time...he will still be injury prone.

Injury prone to me is lots of broken bones, soft tissue injuries without contact.

ACL injuries, injuries when bodies bend you or fall on you when you don't have a chance to brace yourself or your foot is stuck are bad luck.

Guys get banged up in this sport, a lot of these injuries would be considered minor and likely played through if it was the regular season. Teams will always play it safe in offseason for players they know are key to their success in the regular season.

We'll see what happens with Nick. A hamstring injury after a long layoff from football related practice isn't an issue. An ankle sprain when someone falls on your while you're engaged and minding your own business sucks but it's not an injury prone issue...it's a bad luck injury.

The injury prone brigade can celebrate while they can, I notice some of the posters running their mouth were nowhere to be found when Nick was out there and constantly making plays in camp but that's how webzone works.

Sure. It can be bad luck. But if you are frequently injured...you are literally prone to injuries.

Bad luck does not equal injury prone. In a case like Jimmie Ward, they like to write his stuff off as bad luck, but when you break things four out of five years, that shows you simply are fragile and more likely to suffer those types of injuries upon force.

Bosa on the other hand, to be very fair has issue coming from both sides. The ankle was a true bad luck item, the fact that it was only a high ankle sprain instead of a broken leg actually points to him likely being tougher than most. On the flip side, the hammy and the core muscle do put him in that category of "concern" for those types of issues I think.

Bottom line, I think he's somewhere in the middle. A quality player who there is some concern about injuries, but not quite near the level of being truly categorized as "injury prone" just yet.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by okdkid:
If he has "components" of a high ankle sprain he would miss 4+ weeks even in the regular season.

Reuben Foster had something similar and missed more than a month. No GM would drop the term "high ankle" if it wasn't a relatively significant injury.

Myles Garnett missed a month with a high ankle sprain his rookie yr.

Yup, no bueno.

I mean we're a month away from our 1st game...I'm fine if he doesn't touch the field this preseason. He's pro-ready.

I'm pro-no starters in the preseason. So it doesn't bother me from a development perspective. But I am concerned with the frequency of his "bad luck"

Originally posted by 9moon:
HOW SOFTTTTT IS THIS GUYYYYY !!!!????

have a 300 lb guy roll up on your ankle and lets see how "manly" you are

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Bad luck does not equal injury prone. In a case like Jimmie Ward, they like to write his stuff off as bad luck, but when you break things four out of five years, that shows you simply are fragile and more likely to suffer those types of injuries upon force.

Bosa on the other hand, to be very fair has issue coming from both sides. The ankle was a true bad luck item, the fact that it was only a high ankle sprain instead of a broken leg actually points to him likely being tougher than most. On the flip side, the hammy and the core muscle do put him in that category of "concern" for those types of issues I think.

Bottom line, I think he's somewhere in the middle. A quality player who there is some concern about injuries, but not quite near the level of being truly categorized as "injury prone" just yet.

I agree. We need more data. I just don't know how anybody can say with certainty that he is NOT injury prone.

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by 9moon:

HOW SOFTTTTT IS THIS GUYYYYY !!!!????

have a 300 lb guy roll up on your ankle and lets see how "manly" you are

If the over under on him was 12 games, where would you bet?

Originally posted by okdkid:

How can you say that definitely? Seems like the absolute best you can say at this point is "doesn't look good, but we don't know for sure. Time will tell..."

I don't think you can just throw every single injury that happens to a player into the "injury prone" box.

Go look At Bowman's knee injury for example...freak accident when Reid fell and smashed Bo's knee and the rest of his body was pinned against someone. That was f**king horrible luck and part of playing football....that's WAY different then say Alshon Jefferey dealing with constant non-contact soft tissue injuries that were reoccurring in the same areas for yrs.

If Bosa was out because of the same core issue he had in college imo that's different.

Surprised to know his arms are long enough to reach for his hurt ankle

Originally posted by thl408:

One positive from all this is that this thread is very entertaining.

Lol! I don't even bother to post anymore as I'm entertained by the back and forth on both sides.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
We can say what we want and how it happened, but Between the hamstring and now the ankle he's not doing much to shed the injury prone label.

But someone fell on his ankle when engaged, how do you avoid that?

The end result is that he is injured and out, correct? Doesn't matter how it happened imo

But it does actually. I mean if a player gets shot by a terrorist every week in the arms and legs does that make him injury prone?

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

We can say what we want and how it happened, but Between the hamstring and now the ankle he's not doing much to shed the injury prone label.

What injury prone label? Ignoring the negative crap from those who wanted us to draft Williams and from those who just enjoy highlighting anything bad about the team, I don't see an injury prone label. The word prone means likely or liable to suffer from. Basically so far in his career so far as I can tell he has had one injury which has affected or curtailed a season. So, not injury prone.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

We can say what we want and how it happened, but Between the hamstring and now the ankle he's not doing much to shed the injury prone label.

What injury prone label? Ignoring the negative crap from those who wanted us to draft Williams and from those who just enjoy highlighting anything bad about the team, I don't see an injury prone label. The word prone means likely or liable to suffer from. Basically so far in his career so far as I can tell he has had one injury which has affected or curtailed a season. So, not injury prone.

The injury prone label of a torn ACL in HS, abdominal/groin in college and then coupled with his family history of injuries (brother, father, uncle and I believe another grandfather)). I wanted Bosa and think he will be awesome, but these were things that were in the back of my mind. So far in OTA/TC he has a hamstring injury that kept him out and now a ankle injury that will keep him out at least until the opener. I don't know if he's injury prone or not, but my interpretation of someone injury prone is one that cannot stay on the field consistently, regardless of what the injury is or how it happened. We shall see where he falls.

lets just see how the season plays out first before we throw out the injury prone label.......if he plays week 1, none of this stuff will matter.

And I am that guy who is generally tough and unforgiving on players, lol.

I got this feeling that the injury isn't as big as they're making it out to be, and Lynch is just being extra cautious here.

Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by 9moon:
HOW SOFTTTTT IS THIS GUYYYYY !!!!????

have a 300 lb guy roll up on your ankle and lets see how "manly" you are

If the over under on him was 12 games, where would you bet?

im gonna say he proves a lot wrong and plays at least 13

Originally posted by Kolohe:
But it does actually. I mean if a player gets shot by a terrorist every week in the arms and legs does that make him injury prone?

Yes?

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Best part of youtube

lol...we should have our own "pitch meeting"

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
The injury prone label of a torn ACL in HS, abdominal/groin in college and then coupled with his family history of injuries (brother, father, uncle and I believe another grandfather)). I wanted Bosa and think he will be awesome, but these were things that were in the back of my mind. So far in OTA/TC he has a hamstring injury that kept him out and now a ankle injury that will keep him out at least until the opener. I don't know if he's injury prone or not, but my interpretation of someone injury prone is one that cannot stay on the field consistently, regardless of what the injury is or how it happened. We shall see where he falls.

Agree with you. And I have no agenda. I liked the Bosa pick and I think he will be good when he plays. But it is VERY fair to question how much he will play. Not sure why people want to lump everybody into QW supporters or "haters" or whatever throwaway term is in vogue at the moment.

You can like Bosa AND be very concerned about his injures. Doesn't make you a hater.