DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I'm not doubting that we'll sign him..

the point is, a contract should already be SET for Nick to just sign since we decided very early that he was going to be the man.. and the JOEY scenario should also have already been in everyone's mind..

DID we not KNOW what it was going to take to sign Nick? why play the waiting game, or why even wait til July if we can sign him asap?

It's not just the "Joey scenario" though....that's my point. CAA does this will most of their 1st rd picks (and clearly with other picks, Deebo says hi).

Currently there are 6 1st rd picks unsigned, CAA represents 4 of them. You'd think SF would have known when Paraag wasn't able to sign Josh Garnett (represented by CAA) until July 29th, that they'd have Thomas' deal all set the following yr? Nope, Thomas didn't sign until the first day of training camp on July 27th. You'd think they'd have a contract all set after that for McGlinchey (who's represented by CAA)? Nope, Mike didn't sign until July 23rd.

SF KNOWS about CAA and what they want for their clients, it takes time and finding common ground IMO.

WHO CARES about the other unsigned non-49ers draftees...

again, the point here is WHY WAIT?? what is the purpose??

especially for DIVA, he's only a 2nd rounder, what's taking so long?

Ask his agents...

You skipped over my post for some reason when the logic of what's happening is laid out pretty obvious in there.

Pretty sure nobody in the business is stressed out about the situation given the recent results by that agency. So why worry about it now? There is no incentive by the player or his agents to sign a month prior to training camp.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I'm not doubting that we'll sign him..

the point is, a contract should already be SET for Nick to just sign since we decided very early that he was going to be the man.. and the JOEY scenario should also have already been in everyone's mind..

DID we not KNOW what it was going to take to sign Nick? why play the waiting game, or why even wait til July if we can sign him asap?

It's not just the "Joey scenario" though....that's my point. CAA does this will most of their 1st rd picks (and clearly with other picks, Deebo says hi).

Currently there are 6 1st rd picks unsigned, CAA represents 4 of them. You'd think SF would have known when Paraag wasn't able to sign Josh Garnett (represented by CAA) until July 29th, that they'd have Thomas' deal all set the following yr? Nope, Thomas didn't sign until the first day of training camp on July 27th. You'd think they'd have a contract all set after that for McGlinchey (who's represented by CAA)? Nope, Mike didn't sign until July 23rd.

SF KNOWS about CAA and what they want for their clients, it takes time and finding common ground IMO.

WHO CARES about the other unsigned non-49ers draftees...

again, the point here is WHY WAIT?? what is the purpose??

especially for DIVA, he's only a 2nd rounder, what's taking so long?

DUDE its the agency THATS WHY IT MATTERS in regards to non-49ers. Not sure how you don't understand this

I just gave you 3 examples from current 49ers WHO ARE represented by CAA....there's your guideline. There's nothing really to discuss about it honestly. It's all in front of you, there's examples of how this has been going down between SF and CAA for yrs.

You have to ask CAA why it's taking so long with Deebo....you have to get where they're coming from. They want to get the MOST they can for their client (they also get like 4% of their client's cash) CAA also wants to show future clients how they'll do whatever to get them the best shot at getting maximum money/security.

Like everyone says it's a business.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I'm not doubting that we'll sign him..

the point is, a contract should already be SET for Nick to just sign since we decided very early that he was going to be the man.. and the JOEY scenario should also have already been in everyone's mind..

DID we not KNOW what it was going to take to sign Nick? why play the waiting game, or why even wait til July if we can sign him asap?

It's not just the "Joey scenario" though....that's my point. CAA does this will most of their 1st rd picks (and clearly with other picks, Deebo says hi).

Currently there are 6 1st rd picks unsigned, CAA represents 4 of them. You'd think SF would have known when Paraag wasn't able to sign Josh Garnett (represented by CAA) until July 29th, that they'd have Thomas' deal all set the following yr? Nope, Thomas didn't sign until the first day of training camp on July 27th. You'd think they'd have a contract all set after that for McGlinchey (who's represented by CAA)? Nope, Mike didn't sign until July 23rd.

SF KNOWS about CAA and what they want for their clients, it takes time and finding common ground IMO.

WHO CARES about the other unsigned non-49ers draftees...

again, the point here is WHY WAIT?? what is the purpose??

especially for DIVA, he's only a 2nd rounder, what's taking so long?

DUDE its the agency THATS WHY IT MATTERS in regards to non-49ers. Not sure how you don't understand this

I just gave you 3 examples from current 49ers WHO ARE represented by CAA....there's your guideline. There's nothing really to discuss about it honestly. It's all in front of you, there's examples of how this has been going down between SF and CAA for yrs.

You have to ask CAA why it's taking so long with Deebo....you have to get where they're coming from. They want to get the MOST they can for their client (they also get like 4% of their client's cash) CAA also wants to show future clients how they'll do whatever to get them the best shot at getting maximum money/security.

Like everyone says it's a business.

... and it really take that long??

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I'm not doubting that we'll sign him..

the point is, a contract should already be SET for Nick to just sign since we decided very early that he was going to be the man.. and the JOEY scenario should also have already been in everyone's mind..

DID we not KNOW what it was going to take to sign Nick? why play the waiting game, or why even wait til July if we can sign him asap?

It's not just the "Joey scenario" though....that's my point. CAA does this will most of their 1st rd picks (and clearly with other picks, Deebo says hi).

Currently there are 6 1st rd picks unsigned, CAA represents 4 of them. You'd think SF would have known when Paraag wasn't able to sign Josh Garnett (represented by CAA) until July 29th, that they'd have Thomas' deal all set the following yr? Nope, Thomas didn't sign until the first day of training camp on July 27th. You'd think they'd have a contract all set after that for McGlinchey (who's represented by CAA)? Nope, Mike didn't sign until July 23rd.

SF KNOWS about CAA and what they want for their clients, it takes time and finding common ground IMO.

WHO CARES about the other unsigned non-49ers draftees...

again, the point here is WHY WAIT?? what is the purpose??

especially for DIVA, he's only a 2nd rounder, what's taking so long?

DUDE its the agency THATS WHY IT MATTERS in regards to non-49ers. Not sure how you don't understand this

I just gave you 3 examples from current 49ers WHO ARE represented by CAA....there's your guideline. There's nothing really to discuss about it honestly. It's all in front of you, there's examples of how this has been going down between SF and CAA for yrs.

You have to ask CAA why it's taking so long with Deebo....you have to get where they're coming from. They want to get the MOST they can for their client (they also get like 4% of their client's cash) CAA also wants to show future clients how they'll do whatever to get them the best shot at getting maximum money/security.

Like everyone says it's a business.

... and it really take that long??

If we're going off of how CAA has operated for yrs and how SF deals with them regarding 1st rd picks...yes

Use past examples for a guideline, none of them signed until training camp. We shouldn't be shocked if that happens again. That's how they do business.

End of the day it doesn't matter as long as they're both in for training camp.

he'll sign in the next 25 days (and probably day 24)

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:
I'm not doubting that we'll sign him..

the point is, a contract should already be SET for Nick to just sign since we decided very early that he was going to be the man.. and the JOEY scenario should also have already been in everyone's mind..

DID we not KNOW what it was going to take to sign Nick? why play the waiting game, or why even wait til July if we can sign him asap?

It's not just the "Joey scenario" though....that's my point. CAA does this will most of their 1st rd picks (and clearly with other picks, Deebo says hi).

Currently there are 6 1st rd picks unsigned, CAA represents 4 of them. You'd think SF would have known when Paraag wasn't able to sign Josh Garnett (represented by CAA) until July 29th, that they'd have Thomas' deal all set the following yr? Nope, Thomas didn't sign until the first day of training camp on July 27th. You'd think they'd have a contract all set after that for McGlinchey (who's represented by CAA)? Nope, Mike didn't sign until July 23rd.

SF KNOWS about CAA and what they want for their clients, it takes time and finding common ground IMO.

WHO CARES about the other unsigned non-49ers draftees...

again, the point here is WHY WAIT?? what is the purpose??

especially for DIVA, he's only a 2nd rounder, what's taking so long?

DUDE its the agency THATS WHY IT MATTERS in regards to non-49ers. Not sure how you don't understand this

I just gave you 3 examples from current 49ers WHO ARE represented by CAA....there's your guideline. There's nothing really to discuss about it honestly. It's all in front of you, there's examples of how this has been going down between SF and CAA for yrs.

You have to ask CAA why it's taking so long with Deebo....you have to get where they're coming from. They want to get the MOST they can for their client (they also get like 4% of their client's cash) CAA also wants to show future clients how they'll do whatever to get them the best shot at getting maximum money/security.

Like everyone says it's a business.

... and it really take that long??

If we're going off of how CAA has operated for yrs and how SF deals with them regarding 1st rd picks...yes

Use past examples for a guideline, none of them signed until training camp. We shouldn't be shocked if that happens again. That's how they do business.

End of the day it doesn't matter as long as they're both in for training camp.

OH WELL... as long as he ends up better than this dad, all too ez.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by RTFirefly:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 9moon:

The guy is hurt, I'm not sure what's the big deal if he's here or not... plus, it's not like he's going to create havoc during this early practices..

.. but, he needs to sign his contract already !!!

No one "needs" to be here right now...camp isn't for another month.

He doesn't "need" to sign his contract until July 26th

signing the contract now would give everyone here the PEACE OF MIND..

How would you like it if the company who hired you does not want to sign the offer sheet you presented to them and tell you RELAX, WILL SIGN YOUR CONTRACT NEXT MONTH...

MODS: this is just an honest question, by no means I'm trying to be sarcastic or attacking my long time buddy NY85, so try not to increase the 25% warning level.

How would you like it if the USA legally prevented you from working for any other employer in your profession?

YOU either go back to the country that you're originally from and pray for success.. or you can pull the old EBoE trick if you really you don't want to work for that company...

EBoE = Elway - Bo - Eli

Best defensive draft class ever?

NASHVILLE, Tenn. – One by one, they all talked about being part of such a stacked defensive draft class.
"Best D-line class ever," Houston defensive tackle Ed Oliver said.
"We're just honored to be thought of as one of the best classes for defense," Ohio State defensive end Nick Bosa said.
https://nypost.com/2019/04/25/is-this-truly-the-best-defensive-nfl-draft-class-of-all-time/

Better than 2011?

but I can't put it ahead of 2011," NFL Network analyst and former scout Daniel Jeremiah said Wednesday. "That was J.J. Watt, that was Von Miller, that was Aldon Smith, that was [Ryan] Kerrigan, that was ridiculous. I don't know if we'll ever see that one [again]. It's not on par with that, but it's pretty darn good."

I hope the 2019 defensive draft class is better than the 2011!
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Best defensive draft class ever?

NASHVILLE, Tenn. – One by one, they all talked about being part of such a stacked defensive draft class.
"Best D-line class ever," Houston defensive tackle Ed Oliver said.
"We're just honored to be thought of as one of the best classes for defense," Ohio State defensive end Nick Bosa said.
https://nypost.com/2019/04/25/is-this-truly-the-best-defensive-nfl-draft-class-of-all-time/

Better than 2011?

but I can't put it ahead of 2011," NFL Network analyst and former scout Daniel Jeremiah said Wednesday. "That was J.J. Watt, that was Von Miller, that was Aldon Smith, that was [Ryan] Kerrigan, that was ridiculous. I don't know if we'll ever see that one [again]. It's not on par with that, but it's pretty darn good."

I hope the 2019 defensive draft class is better than the 2011!
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Me too...especially if we got our version of Von Miller in this class.

But yeah 2011 was insane. Can only imagine what could've been if Aldon wasn't an alchy.

When it's all said and done that class already has 2 guys in the top 50 all time sack list(Miller/Watt) and has 6 guys in the top 100(Kerrigan/Justin Houston/Cam Jordan//Robert Quinn)

It sucks honestly looking back and realizing Aldon was on a pace ahead of all of them(actually literally ahead of EVERYONE) his first 2 seasons.

If 8 years into Nick's career he's on the top 100 career sack leaders list we'll be very happy. If he's in the top 50 we'd be partying in the streets.

Originally posted by genus49:
Me too...especially if we got our version of Von Miller in this class.

But yeah 2011 was insane. Can only imagine what could've been if Aldon wasn't an alchy.

When it's all said and done that class already has 2 guys in the top 50 all time sack list(Miller/Watt) and has 6 guys in the top 100(Kerrigan/Justin Houston/Cam Jordan//Robert Quinn)

It sucks honestly looking back and realizing Aldon was on a pace ahead of all of them(actually literally ahead of EVERYONE) his first 2 seasons.

If 8 years into Nick's career he's on the top 100 career sack leaders list we'll be very happy. If he's in the top 50 we'd be partying in the streets.

I'll take Kerrigan 2.0 all day!!

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:

Me too...especially if we got our version of Von Miller in this class.

But yeah 2011 was insane. Can only imagine what could've been if Aldon wasn't an alchy.

When it's all said and done that class already has 2 guys in the top 50 all time sack list(Miller/Watt) and has 6 guys in the top 100(Kerrigan/Justin Houston/Cam Jordan//Robert Quinn)

It sucks honestly looking back and realizing Aldon was on a pace ahead of all of them(actually literally ahead of EVERYONE) his first 2 seasons.

If 8 years into Nick's career he's on the top 100 career sack leaders list we'll be very happy. If he's in the top 50 we'd be partying in the streets.

I'll take Kerrigan 2.0 all day!!

Nancy? Makes sense...she has a bum knee. But why?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:

Me too...especially if we got our version of Von Miller in this class.

But yeah 2011 was insane. Can only imagine what could've been if Aldon wasn't an alchy.

When it's all said and done that class already has 2 guys in the top 50 all time sack list(Miller/Watt) and has 6 guys in the top 100(Kerrigan/Justin Houston/Cam Jordan//Robert Quinn)

It sucks honestly looking back and realizing Aldon was on a pace ahead of all of them(actually literally ahead of EVERYONE) his first 2 seasons.

If 8 years into Nick's career he's on the top 100 career sack leaders list we'll be very happy. If he's in the top 50 we'd be partying in the streets.

I'll take Kerrigan 2.0 all day!!

Nancy? Makes sense...she has a bum knee. But why?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Nancy? Makes sense...she has a bum knee. But why?

Ignore the haters. Come July 27th she'll be ready.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
Me too...especially if we got our version of Von Miller in this class.

But yeah 2011 was insane. Can only imagine what could've been if Aldon wasn't an alchy.

When it's all said and done that class already has 2 guys in the top 50 all time sack list(Miller/Watt) and has 6 guys in the top 100(Kerrigan/Justin Houston/Cam Jordan//Robert Quinn)

It sucks honestly looking back and realizing Aldon was on a pace ahead of all of them(actually literally ahead of EVERYONE) his first 2 seasons.

If 8 years into Nick's career he's on the top 100 career sack leaders list we'll be very happy. If he's in the top 50 we'd be partying in the streets.

I'll take Kerrigan 2.0 all day!!

Nancy? Makes sense...she has a bum knee. But why?

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