DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by jed_X:

Originally posted by ScarScream:
Rolling over Cap to next season since we're scheduled to be $7.5M over the Cap in 2027 at this point.

I don't think that's the case. Why would you reconstruct his contract this year and save 17 mil and proceed to balloon his cap hit to 53 mil next year. Doesn't make sense unless they have a big move coming.

We try to roll over cap every year. Between 20-30mil. That's what we're making cap space for.

Rookie class will be about 10mil

On top of that we have the Aiyuk situation to deal with. That will hit our cap at some point.

So unless we have more restructures than just Trent coming I don't see us making any big moves from the cap saved on this restructure.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
We have all agreed this is a huge year for Nick to prove himself. By restructuring his contract, this becomes a prove it year for Bosa. If he fails, the 49ers won't have his cap increase next year because we can move on from him.

What? This doesn't make any sense. We essentially just kicked the cap impact down the road. We have to pay the piper at some point.

Originally posted by BYisGod:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
We have all agreed this is a huge year for Nick to prove himself. By restructuring his contract, this becomes a prove it year for Bosa. If he fails, the 49ers won't have his cap increase next year because we can move on from him.

What? This doesn't make any sense. We essentially just kicked the cap impact down the road. We have to pay the piper at some point.

I think ninerfaninorcal is mixing up "restructuring" with "renegotiating".

usually a restructure benefits the player because they get more upfront money, which is because the team converts it into a signing bonus, which is then pushed down the cap space a few years but is "dead money".

team gets short term cap relief because they're sending that money to future years but still has to get paid no matter what.

But if you trade him in the future, then another team would be paying that money that was due in the future?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Scooper1:

Originally posted by RonMexico:
Last elite season was 2022

hopefully he's still that level

That's simply not true. You just don't know what you're looking at.

1000%. lol if you watch bosa and don't think he's elite, you dont understand D Line football. I'm not a pro analyst with this stuff like some are on here but I know it's much more than just the stat line. Bosa, when healthy, is dominate. He is invaluable to our defense.

This is how some people think that Mykel Williams wasnt good, he was freakin awesome. he wasn't a major pass rusher but he did essentially everything else at a very high level, which in turn makes everyone around him better and opens opportunities for others to make plays.

Bosa, Mykel, and Osa are a hell of a group to have on the D line. Bosa will abuse and demand 2 players, Osa will abuse the interior guys, Mykel will gobble up and set edge a couple of o line guys. Just need 1 more d line stud to make this D line a beast. That isn't even talking about West/Collins, which hopefully take a big jump.

We will have a Dline that keeps linebackers clean and beats up Olines. Perfect set up for a speed rusher to get one on one's. Hope we can find one in the draft.

Bosa did help out the 49ers by doing this. But if you read my previous posts, I do believe he did owe the 49ers organization and fanbase something after getting injured yet again last season and missing the entire season. Even though it wasn't his fault he got injured, it still did happen. As a wealthy player in the NFL, you know that Bosa in addition to being rich wants to be liked by his fanbase rather than his fans wanting him to take a hike. It was the right thing to do, and my previous posts did suggest this.

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Bosa did help out the 49ers by doing this. But if you read my previous posts, I do believe he did owe the 49ers organization and fanbase something after getting injured yet again last season and missing the entire season. Even though it wasn't his fault he got injured, it still did happen. As a wealthy player in the NFL, you know that Bosa in addition to being rich wants to be liked by his fanbase rather than his fans wanting him to take a hike. It was the right thing to do, and my previous posts did suggest this.

Nice thoughts but most players don't feel that way. Money has gotten so big now that it often overides all othe considerations. Unfortunately.

It's 2026 and fans still don't understand how contract restructures work lmao

They're not "player agrees to take less." They're "here, have some real cash upfront and we'll take salary cap hits later on instead of right now." They are a no-brainer move for the team AND player every time, unless the team plans on cutting/trading the player.

Team do restructures for their stars 95% of the time. The other 5% of the time is when keeping the star isn't worth the remainder of their contract. It's not some genius rocket science move that teams do or some generous thing players do. It's a standard procedure that is expected to be done.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
It's 2026 and fans still don't understand how contract restructures work lmao

They're not "player agrees to take less." They're "here, have some real cash upfront and we'll take salary cap hits later on instead of right now." They are a no-brainer move for the team AND player every time, unless the team plans on cutting/trading the player.

Team do restructures for their stars 95% of the time. The other 5% of the time is when keeping the star isn't worth the remainder of their contract. It's not some genius rocket science move that teams do or some generous thing players do. It's a standard procedure that is expected to be done.

Jed doesn't get enough credit for his part in this as the owner. This means he has to shell money upfront every off season to help smooth out the books.

a lot of owners won't do this cause it cost tens of million upfront dollars.

just to be clear - the cap is pushed down the road in different years but the actual dollars are paid up front. Which is why it's "dead cap dollars". So Jed should be recognized for how much he's done for us in the last 8 years

its a core reason we aren't in salary cap hell.

Most fans aren't nerds and have lives. Not all fans are as ancient as you are.

So restructured contract so we can add Joey. Do it!

Originally posted by ninerjok:
So restructured contract so we can add Joey. Do it!

Trent is probably holding everything up, IMO. The uncertainty behind his impact to the cap is a major problem.

team has to factor a lot of things into each signing, short and long term: for example
- draft picks
- roll over
- in season injuries & signings
- 3 year cap projection implications
- other play extensions
- potential trades

etc etc - so when is holding the cap space hostage - it makes it harder to make moves. I'm not attacking Trent, I think it's just the reality of one of your best players, and highest cap hit; renegotiates every year demanding record money.hes also older, which makes it tricky because of future dead cap if/when he retires.

i love trent and hope we keep him but i feel like the front office is going to trade him around the draft. Just IMO.

with that all said, Bosa and the front office may already have agreed to terms but the Fo is trying to get other things in order before executing it.

i wanna see the Bosa brothers meet at the QB and do a coordinated shrug. we can call them the Bash Brothers

Originally posted by BP13:
i wanna see the Bosa brothers meet at the QB and do a coordinated shrug. we can call them the Bash Brothers

Isn't Joey injured a lot? This better be good, if it happens.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by BP13:
i wanna see the Bosa brothers meet at the QB and do a coordinated shrug. we can call them the Bash Brothers

Isn't Joey injured a lot? This better be good, if it happens.

Joey's had a injury history, but hes had back to back seasons of at least 14-17 games played. I honestly prefer Cam Jordan over Joey because I think he'll get hurt playing for us since 3 seasons in a row with 14-17 games played will be pushing our luck. Where as Cam has barely missed games his entire career while both their productions have been pretty good.

Here's some of Joeys positive: 5 forced fumbles last year (1st in the league), 47 pressures, only 5 sacks.
Heres some of Cams positives: 10 sacks(double Joey), 36 pressures, 31 solo tackles, Barely misses games.