DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Young2Rice:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lynch get Hendrickson NOW DAMMIT!!!!! Gonna be pissed if he ends up on the Eagles.

I thought the Bungholes just signed him to an extension after a holdout.

Nope they agreed to a 2025 raise and that's it. He's still not signed at all beyond this season.

Over the cap says: Team Cap Space: $24,795,906
Is that without the insurance claim on Nick up to $9m? Does anyone know. We would be into the low $33m range is that correct?

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Over the cap says: Team Cap Space: $24,795,906
Is that without the insurance claim on Nick up to $9m? Does anyone know. We would be into the low $33m range is that correct?

s**t I was way off, thought they were at 40mil. I think I was combining 25 and 26 cap space.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

A new trade report offers up a pair of intriguing Nick Bosa replacement options for the #49ers. #SF49ers #NFLhttps://t.co/InZ69rXTb3

— Sportsnaut (@Sportsnaut) September 24, 2025

How is this news?

It's naut, it's whatever you want it to be

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No question Bosa will be missed but if they can't make the playoffs without him then they weren't good enough anyway. Edge rushers rarely make the difference between making the playoffs or not.

Crazy take. Did you watch the 2007 and 2011 NY Giants?

Pass rush and what Bosa commands on this line in terms of double teams and focus in opposing gameplanning is monumental.

Hell, Bosa was the difference in the first two games this season. Single handedly sealed the first game.

The Niners can get by without him but let's not act like his loss is fairly inconsequential or won't have ramifications.

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No question Bosa will be missed but if they can't make the playoffs without him then they weren't good enough anyway. Edge rushers rarely make the difference between making the playoffs or not.

Crazy take. Did you watch the 2007 and 2011 NY Giants?

Pass rush and what Bosa commands on this line in terms of double teams and focus in opposing gameplanning is monumental.

Hell, Bosa was the difference in the first two games this season. Single handedly sealed the first game.

The Niners can get by without him but let's not act like his loss is fairly inconsequential or won't have ramifications.

My first thought after we found out about his injury was that we are certainly playoff caliber without him, but I cannot see us winning it all unless we have him. Those championship games are when you need your best players.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Thibodeaux or Phillips makes the most sense, if they even make a move.

Someone who is about 30-50% as good as Bosa is not going to help us. It has to be someone at least 80% as good as Bosa (Hunter or Hendrickson)

Kerry Hyder was never 80% as good as Bosa, but his presence helped the D from falling off in 2020. We just need a guy that can provide a threat on the other side. If he keep Huff fresh, use YGM mostly on run downs, and rotate between Sam O and a guy that can provide a threat, that combined with good team D, and we should weather the storm. I think this is the path the team most likely takes. If they found the next Charles Omenihu, I'd be satisfied.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No question Bosa will be missed but if they can't make the playoffs without him then they weren't good enough anyway. Edge rushers rarely make the difference between making the playoffs or not.

Crazy take. Did you watch the 2007 and 2011 NY Giants?

Pass rush and what Bosa commands on this line in terms of double teams and focus in opposing gameplanning is monumental.

Hell, Bosa was the difference in the first two games this season. Single handedly sealed the first game.

The Niners can get by without him but let's not act like his loss is fairly inconsequential or won't have ramifications.

My first thought after we found out about his injury was that we are certainly playoff caliber without him, but I cannot see us winning it all unless we have him. Those championship games are when you need your best players.

Exactly this. That's why the report on Monday was such a huge punch in the face despite the thrilling and critical 3-0 start.

Can we make the playoffs without him? Absolutely. But as we've unfortunately experienced many times over the last 15 years, we need EVERYTHING to go right to win the Super Bowl. Winning 3-4 playoff games in a row without your 2nd-most important player is really, REALLY hard. Literally everything has to go right for us to win it all now because the margin of error is so tiny after the loss of Bosa.

I firmly believe no trade for Hendrickson/Hunter before November 4th = no Super Bowl this season. Even if we're 9-0. You HAVE to get a top 10 edge rusher in the game to at least reasonably replace Bosa for a playoff run, because a top 10 edge rusher is what Bosa was. Some reject from New York or underwhelming journeyman from Miami or middle-aged retiree from New Orleans is not going to come in and save the whole season. It's just not going to happen.

It's Trey Hendrickson or Danielle Hunter or no Super Bowl. That's it. That is as simple as it gets.

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No question Bosa will be missed but if they can't make the playoffs without him then they weren't good enough anyway. Edge rushers rarely make the difference between making the playoffs or not.

Crazy take. Did you watch the 2007 and 2011 NY Giants?

Pass rush and what Bosa commands on this line in terms of double teams and focus in opposing gameplanning is monumental.

Hell, Bosa was the difference in the first two games this season. Single handedly sealed the first game.

The Niners can get by without him but let's not act like his loss is fairly inconsequential or won't have ramifications.

I knew this would get a reaction. My point is that teams don't win titles because of one great edge player. It's the QB or the overall offense. The game plan. Maybe the entire defense. It's not one edge player. Lot's of teams with great edge rushers don't even make the playoffs. I can't really remember a game where an edge rusher made the deciding play in the SB. None has ever won the MVP.

They're a great tool to have but not an absolute must.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No question Bosa will be missed but if they can't make the playoffs without him then they weren't good enough anyway. Edge rushers rarely make the difference between making the playoffs or not.

Crazy take. Did you watch the 2007 and 2011 NY Giants?

Pass rush and what Bosa commands on this line in terms of double teams and focus in opposing gameplanning is monumental.

Hell, Bosa was the difference in the first two games this season. Single handedly sealed the first game.

The Niners can get by without him but let's not act like his loss is fairly inconsequential or won't have ramifications.

I knew this would get a reaction. My point is that teams don't win titles because of one great edge player. It's the QB or the overall offense. The game plan. Maybe the entire defense. It's not one edge player. Lot's of teams with great edge rushers don't even make the playoffs. I can't really remember a game where an edge rusher made the deciding play in the SB. None has ever won the MVP.

They're a great tool to have but not an absolute must.

2015 Denver Broncos say hi. I get that it's not super frequent but it does happen. They don't win it all without Miller. Probably don't even get to the Super Bowl without Miller.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No question Bosa will be missed but if they can't make the playoffs without him then they weren't good enough anyway. Edge rushers rarely make the difference between making the playoffs or not.

Crazy take. Did you watch the 2007 and 2011 NY Giants?

Pass rush and what Bosa commands on this line in terms of double teams and focus in opposing gameplanning is monumental.

Hell, Bosa was the difference in the first two games this season. Single handedly sealed the first game.

The Niners can get by without him but let's not act like his loss is fairly inconsequential or won't have ramifications.

I knew this would get a reaction. My point is that teams don't win titles because of one great edge player. It's the QB or the overall offense. The game plan. Maybe the entire defense. It's not one edge player. Lot's of teams with great edge rushers don't even make the playoffs. I can't really remember a game where an edge rusher made the deciding play in the SB. None has ever won the MVP.

They're a great tool to have but not an absolute must.

2015 Denver Broncos say hi. I get that it's not super frequent but it does happen. They don't win it all without Miller. Probably don't even get to the Super Bowl without Miller.

Maybe but you can't say that for sure. How many games did he win? You can't really say he won any.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
No question Bosa will be missed but if they can't make the playoffs without him then they weren't good enough anyway. Edge rushers rarely make the difference between making the playoffs or not.

Crazy take. Did you watch the 2007 and 2011 NY Giants?

Pass rush and what Bosa commands on this line in terms of double teams and focus in opposing gameplanning is monumental.

Hell, Bosa was the difference in the first two games this season. Single handedly sealed the first game.

The Niners can get by without him but let's not act like his loss is fairly inconsequential or won't have ramifications.

I knew this would get a reaction. My point is that teams don't win titles because of one great edge player. It's the QB or the overall offense. The game plan. Maybe the entire defense. It's not one edge player. Lot's of teams with great edge rushers don't even make the playoffs. I can't really remember a game where an edge rusher made the deciding play in the SB. None has ever won the MVP.

They're a great tool to have but not an absolute must.

2015 Denver Broncos say hi. I get that it's not super frequent but it does happen. They don't win it all without Miller. Probably don't even get to the Super Bowl without Miller.

Maybe but you can't say that for sure. How many games did he win? You can't really say he won any.

He won the 2015 AFC Championship AND Super Bowl arguably all by himself…

No way you can count on this. Triple ACL. 1 High School and 2 NFL. Will be 29 next October. A player approaching 30 and 3 times severe knee injuries. We need this yet again too. DE/Edge pass rusher is now a big draft requirement. In addition to OT to replace Trent and C, LG. Still have to pick the lines again. This is a real mess. Not only for this year. But ongoing for the future. You simply can't rely on this. A big contract of guaranteed money too. Great when healthy. But often not healthy. Much like his brother. They have trouble staying on the field. The best ability is availability.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
No way you can count on this. Triple ACL. 1 High School and 2 NFL. Will be 29 next October. A player approaching 30 and 3 times severe knee injuries. We need this yet again too. DE/Edge pass rusher is now a big draft requirement. In addition to OT to replace Trent and C, LG. Still have to pick the lines again. This is a real mess. Not only for this year. But ongoing for the future. You simply can't rely on this. A big contract of guaranteed money too. Great when healthy. But often not healthy. Much like his brother. They have trouble staying on the field. The best ability is availability.

You don't know the relief I feel when you post something that is completely opposite of what I believe. It's like a warm cozy blanket of comfort

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
No way you can count on this. Triple ACL. 1 High School and 2 NFL. Will be 29 next October. A player approaching 30 and 3 times severe knee injuries. We need this yet again too. DE/Edge pass rusher is now a big draft requirement. In addition to OT to replace Trent and C, LG. Still have to pick the lines again. This is a real mess. Not only for this year. But ongoing for the future. You simply can't rely on this. A big contract of guaranteed money too. Great when healthy. But often not healthy. Much like his brother. They have trouble staying on the field. The best ability is availability.

Yeah kind of feels like he might be damaged goods at this point with this latest injury. Will still be productive, but no where near what we will be paying him and hoping he will be.

We might be able to get someone to take on his contract, but highly doubtful. Might just have to bite the bullet and hope he comes back productive enough for the next couple of years.