DE Nick Bosa "Smaller Bear" NO POLITICS

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Earl Mitchell had a lot to do with this. I think Jones will be a huge surprise next year for us. I can't believe how many people missed what was right in front of our eyes. Mitchell was soooo bad he hardly made any plays whatsoever.

You might think so what he's a NT but a decent to good NT really affects the run game. I'm a little biased because I played NT but it's really a shame we got nothing from that position.

And oh yeah... our linebackers were very average as well. Alexander, if he can stay healthy, will be huge for us.

I just keep seeing this b******t about teams not being in base as much and I'm not sure what they are implying. Like it's that important or something? The good teams in this league historically or pretty much just everyone will always try to establish the run. You have to prove you can stop it or they'll just keep doing it. Half if it is just football semantics, more versatile guys playing hybrid roles with new names but really just the same stuff. You're going to have 5 of your biggest, baddest dudes in the box at almost all times, that's the way it is.

Pretty much...the last year I saw was 33% and when you include goal line its @ 35% but so what?

You have to be able to stop the run. Paying 1 extra DB to play a more critcal role (not exactly a "rebuild" of your team") than would have 20 yrs ago doesnt mean you can suddenly cheap out or gloss over a LBer position as has been suggested ad nauseum.

The last pay chart I saw had non-pass rusher OLBs as 2nd to QBs on the average payscale iirc. They're critical in critical situations...so not sure what there is to discuss about it. As much as the game changes, football is still football.

We got us some Bosa!

Originally posted by T-9ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
That has nothing to do with why I brought up those numbers though. SF was actually good in run D last yr.

Regardless of anything if a team is showing 11 personnel, you gotta throw another DB on field and more teams are running that now (and have been the past couple yrs). The rams played out of it 90% of the time last yr. so teams need build their team accordingly.

Statistically we might have been good against the run, but in context, in critical situations, I wouldn't say we are what should be considered a good, run stopping team. Average maybe. Regardless though, he was saying it's more complex like a game of chess. Moves, counter moves, adjustments , attacking weaknesses, etc, not just an oversimplification like we play base 25% and nickel 70% no s**t you say.

I'd agree with average. The passing D just seems so horrendously worse, even though I think it was ranked higher. I'd love to get our run D to around 2011-2013 levels.

Originally posted by random49er:

Pretty much...the last year I saw was 33% and when you include goal line its @ 35% but so what?

You have to be able to stop the run. Paying 1 extra DB to play a more critcal role (not exactly a "rebuild" of your team") than would have 20 yrs ago doesnt mean you can suddenly cheap out or gloss over a LBer position as has been suggested ad nauseum.

The last pay chart I saw had non-pass rusher OLBs as 2nd to QBs on the average payscale iirc. They're critical in critical situations...so not sure what there is to discuss about it. As much as the game changes, football is still football.

Yeah except people are going after pass coverage LBs with speed. The point is having two solid LBs is great 70% of the time. The other 30% we have a weakness but, it's only 30% of plays and less still if this offense can be what we hope it is. When fans are arguing about not having a badass LB that will only play 30% of downs that's a good problem to have.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
Badass Bosa. That is all

Can't wait!

Originally posted by NewEraNiner16:

Well, if I wasn't a Bosa fan before I might be now

Uniform wise he essentially just upgraded from silver to gold.

Originally posted by T-9ers:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Maybe he was complaining about complaining?

No response yet.

I think he was just saying play calling is adaptive, opposed to something that can be quantified linearly with numbers. For example, if the opposing offense is in 3rd and short all the time like last year, dictatating to us what play we will call, it won't matter what defense we are in.

A great thing about Harbaughs teams is that they were really strong against the run, routinely forcing teams into 2nd and 3rd and long. It'd be be smart to get back into basic fundamentals like that, good tackling, stopping the run so we can set Ford and Bosa free on passing downs.

We were decent vs the run last year despite playing in a division with the #1 and #3 rushing teams in the NFL. And under Harbaugh we played out of base a lot as well we just happened to have great LB out there.

Looking at other teams doesn't make sense. You play to your strengths not some other team's.

EVERY team in the league would love to get consistent pressure from the least amount of guys as possible and let the guys in the backend worry about coverage, hopefully for short amounts of time. You also hope that those same front guys can stop the run consistently.

Our DL should definitely be able to get pressure with 4 guys. We'll see if they can stop the run. If Bosa, Buckner, Thomas and Ford can show they can stop the run this defense can be special. But if we want to go big on early downs we know we can stop the run. Bosa, Buckner, Jones, Armstead/Thomas can definitely play the run. Question is what happens with Dee.

Originally posted by ninerjok:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
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Badass Bosa. That is all

Will he be as badass as Justin Smith? I hope so.

Originally posted by T-9ers:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Earl Mitchell had a lot to do with this. I think Jones will be a huge surprise next year for us. I can't believe how many people missed what was right in front of our eyes. Mitchell was soooo bad he hardly made any plays whatsoever.

You might think so what he's a NT but a decent to good NT really affects the run game. I'm a little biased because I played NT but it's really a shame we got nothing from that position.

And oh yeah... our linebackers were very average as well. Alexander, if he can stay healthy, will be huge for us.

I just keep seeing this b******t about teams not being in base as much and I'm not sure what they are implying. Like it's that important or something? The good teams in this league historically or pretty much just everyone will always try to establish the run. You have to prove you can stop it or they'll just keep doing it. Half if it is just football semantics, more versatile guys playing hybrid roles with new names but really just the same stuff. You're going to have 5 of your biggest, baddest dudes in the box at almost all times, that's the way it is.

Historically as in prior to last few seasons?

The numbers are what they are for the reason, the league has changed to a lot more passing. And you yourself brought up the chess match involved.

Perfect world our nickle D can stop the run and we just worry about keeping guys up front fresh.

If that doesn't work...only guy that concerns me is Ford. I'm confident whether it's Armstead or Thomas playing as the 4th guy inside along with Buckner and Bosa and Ford on the outside he can do a good job vs the run. Our corners outside of Spoon are pretty good vs the run.

Warner and Alexander are certainly not Willis/Bowman but they're pretty good speed guys who can clean things up and hit their gaps to stop the run.

But end of the day we certainly have the depth on the DL to bring 4 guys in who can stop the run with only 2 linebackers behind them if we felt the team we're facing is very run heavy.

Biggest question on this roster is health. Everyone stays healthy I have no question that we can stop the run. You don't need 3 linebackers to do that. If the guys up front make plays it won't be an issue. I don't see too many teams who want to keep pounding the ball against us and putting themselves into 3rd and long against this DL.

Originally posted by frankieuc68:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Daily Bosa porn

Originally posted by genus49:

Historically as in prior to last few seasons?

The numbers are what they are for the reason, the league has changed to a lot more passing. And you yourself brought up the chess match involved.

Perfect world our nickle D can stop the run and we just worry about keeping guys up front fresh.

If that doesn't work...only guy that concerns me is Ford. I'm confident whether it's Armstead or Thomas playing as the 4th guy inside along with Buckner and Bosa and Ford on the outside he can do a good job vs the run. Our corners outside of Spoon are pretty good vs the run.

Warner and Alexander are certainly not Willis/Bowman but they're pretty good speed guys who can clean things up and hit their gaps to stop the run.

But end of the day we certainly have the depth on the DL to bring 4 guys in who can stop the run with only 2 linebackers behind them if we felt the team we're facing is very run heavy.

Biggest question on this roster is health. Everyone stays healthy I have no question that we can stop the run. You don't need 3 linebackers to do that. If the guys up front make plays it won't be an issue. I don't see too many teams who want to keep pounding the ball against us and putting themselves into 3rd and long against this DL.

Did you watch the Patriots playoff run?

Originally posted by T-9ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Historically as in prior to last few seasons?

The numbers are what they are for the reason, the league has changed to a lot more passing. And you yourself brought up the chess match involved.

Perfect world our nickle D can stop the run and we just worry about keeping guys up front fresh.

If that doesn't work...only guy that concerns me is Ford. I'm confident whether it's Armstead or Thomas playing as the 4th guy inside along with Buckner and Bosa and Ford on the outside he can do a good job vs the run. Our corners outside of Spoon are pretty good vs the run.

Warner and Alexander are certainly not Willis/Bowman but they're pretty good speed guys who can clean things up and hit their gaps to stop the run.

But end of the day we certainly have the depth on the DL to bring 4 guys in who can stop the run with only 2 linebackers behind them if we felt the team we're facing is very run heavy.

Biggest question on this roster is health. Everyone stays healthy I have no question that we can stop the run. You don't need 3 linebackers to do that. If the guys up front make plays it won't be an issue. I don't see too many teams who want to keep pounding the ball against us and putting themselves into 3rd and long against this DL.

Did you watch the Patriots playoff run?

I live in MA and my family are all Pats fans...yes.

What is your point? We have the bodies to stop the run of a team wants to go that route. The issue for us has been pass rush and being able to stop teams with a lead.

We're a far cry away from the team in 2016 which couldn't stop anyone if they wanted to run it.

Also forget the defense for a second. Assuming the offense takes a big step forward with Jimmy coming back and some talent additions at WR we should be able to put pressure on opposing teams.

Hard to run the ball all game long if the other team is able to put up points.

As good as the Pats were at running the ball it was still Tom Brady who made key plays in the passing game and part of the reason they were so successful is because they were able to run/pass out of their big body sets with Gronk being a threat in the passing game and a great run blocker.

Teams tend to try to run the ball more in the playoffs these years but few teams who are ball control offenses make the playoffs anymore.

You need balance and the rules make passing easier these days. It's a matter of how well you can defend the run outside of base which gives some defenses a leg up on the competition just like on offense balance makes things that much easier.

Originally posted by NewEraNiner16:


Well, if I wasn't a Bosa fan before I might be now

looks like a midget. how tall is he?

Originally posted by ChazBoner:

Originally posted by NewEraNiner16:

Well, if I wasn't a Bosa fan before I might be now

looks like a midget. how tall is he?

5'11