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May 18, 2019 at 11:20 AM
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May 18, 2019 at 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by jvangeystel:Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:No...Soloman Thomas is a steaming pile of hot garbage, the fanbase needs to accept this and move on
This is the problem with most fans. Utterly impatient and ready to give up on players so quickly. Has Soloman lived up to his draft position so far? No. However to completely disregard him as a bust for the rest of his career is shortsighted and just plain foolish. This is exactly how guys like Bellicheck get so many solid players. They take guys who never were really put in the position to succeed and give them that. Then when they blossom into the player people thought they might be and everyone is surprised. Not to mention Thomas is an NFL player. He's got mad talent, saying he doesn't is just plain dumb.
The coaching staff barely want to put him in during a season that was lost the moment our starting QB went down.
May 18, 2019 at 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by Giedi:NY85's point is still valid. So he's off by a couple percentages, big deal, the nickle defense is still the prevalent defense per your stats. So what *your* point?Originally posted by random49er:Originally posted by NYniner85:73% of those formations aren't in base, that's a fact though.
1st off I dont even want to hear what "the 49ers" ran,...we sucked and ran what we did out of necessity. We were a bad team and teams largely dictated what we ran. The hope is we dont have another year like last year.
I'd rather listen to what the top 3 defensive teams or even all teams on average ran as legit examples.
And I wasn't able to find the 2018 totals yet,...but interestingly enough, base usage actually went up in 2017, per footballoutsiders.com.
Up past 33%,...but po-tae-to,...po-tat-o,...the key is where are we going with these stats??
Are we trying to say that your 3rd db cover guy (preferably a hybrid type for bigger ) can basically play as a starter and is ALOT more important on the field than they were 15 years ago?? Well hell yes they are,..but that's not groundbreaking or anything,...we've known that for years.
Or are we trying to diminish the importance of a team' 3rd LB,....basically suggesting we can fill that gap with lesser players??If someone says this then that's where ignorance comes in and that person just doesn't understand football.
No No No,...you gotta understand that football is a chess match. Sure,...you'll sacrifice a couple pawns for the chance at getting another rook. But you're damn sure not risking your knights or your bishops when you dont have to.
That 3rd cover guy teams are now relying upon aren't eating into your 3rd linebacker's money or ability. They're eating into the money of bench players at other positions, or even at their own position, in your quest to have the best 53 you possibly can.
e.g.,...Maybe you're used to paying 8 starter-capable offensive linemen and now you can only pay 7 that type of money this year because you need more money for that more-capable 3rd DB.
So long as we agree on that then yea, keep stating over and over that nickel defense is pretty prevalent in today's game.
I have no idea why random is always trying to argue with me? Literally, the stats I gave came straight from Sam Monson the head analyst for PFF yesterday.
Wow, in 2018 the league average for base personnel on defense fell all the way to 25%.
— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) May 17, 2019
The Cardinals spent less than 10% of their snaps on D in base personnel.
If you're drafting any 2-down player anywhere on the first couple of days, you're doing things wrong.
League wide 2-down players are really less than 1-down players now.
— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) May 17, 2019
NC spoke with him regarding SF and we had a 5th DB on the field (SAM was on the bench) 73% of the time. I have no clue what he's even trying to debate with me...those numbers speak for themselves and are a reason why players that CAN play outside of base are becoming more and more important. Being able to affect the pass is what matters most. Now we can talk about what concepts/players they use outside of base (ex snickle personnel).
May 18, 2019 at 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
May 18, 2019 at 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by gold49digger:
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May 18, 2019 at 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Giedi:I don't get how the money comes into play. You just shift the cap resources to the appropriate 11 personnel in nickel. Big deal that we don't pay the 3rd linebacker much money and we pay the slot nickel more, that's the way it should be from a capanomics standpoint if the slot nickel is going to play more.
The base defense is good against both the run and the pass, if the score is even, but if the score is where the 49ers are ahead, I doubt the opposing teams run/pass ratio stays at 50/50. If Kyle's offense finally gets to where his offense is in the top 10, most teams will have to go to a more pass happy 3 wide or 4 wide to keep up with Kyles offense from the git go. Then at that point the nickel *is* the base defense - specially in the 4th quarter and the 49ers are trying to close out the game.
I *still* don't get random49er's point.
I don't get his point either
May 18, 2019 at 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by mayo49:Originally posted by gold49digger:Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
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May 18, 2019 at 12:25 PM
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I am so fired up, with Bosa, I ain't settle for nothin' but NFC champion.
Go 9ers.
Go 9ers.
May 18, 2019 at 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:I don't get his point either
Maybe he was complaining about complaining?
No response yet.
May 18, 2019 at 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Giedi:Maybe he was complaining about complaining?
No response yet.
I have no idea...that stat I brought up wasn't meant to start a debate and I'm not sure what there is to debate about
we played outside of base a s**t ton last yr and that was basically true for most teams (league avg was 25% in base).
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May 18, 2019 at 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
May 18, 2019 at 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by Heroism:Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:
That 'KABOOM!' graphic should be inserted in every sack breakdown of Bosa and Ford
May 18, 2019 at 1:25 PM
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May 18, 2019 at 1:38 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Daily Bosa porn
May 18, 2019 at 1:55 PM
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The tweet:
The tweet:
QB nightmare fuel.
— San Francisco 49ers (@49ers) May 18, 2019
📸: Ben Liebenberg/@NFL @NFLPA x #NFLPARookiePremiere pic.twitter.com/hwTgBs2iQS

If someone says this then that's where ignorance comes in and that person just doesn't understand football.


