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Sep 18, 2023 at 12:53 PM
- JTB1974
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He's still getting back into football shape. He is going to be fine, He is Nick Bosa.
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Sep 18, 2023 at 12:56 PM
- thl408
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Originally posted by JTB1974:
He's still getting back into football shape. He is going to be fine, He is Nick Bosa.
My phone always auto corrects Bosa to "boss". My phone knows wassup.
Sep 18, 2023 at 12:58 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by thl408:or you message your boss way too much
Originally posted by JTB1974:
He's still getting back into football shape. He is going to be fine, He is Nick Bosa.
My phone always auto corrects Bosa to "boss". My phone knows wassup.
Sep 18, 2023 at 1:10 PM
- CatchMaster80
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I was just listening to Donte Whitner. He's a little concerned about the Niners D line being able to get consistent pressure on the QB. His reasoning is that he doesn't feel the D backs are good enough to play man which is what they can be forced to do if they have to start using the LBs to get pressure. The D line on paper looks great but he doesn't like the scheme they are using. He thinks it makes it too easy for the O line to block them.
Sep 18, 2023 at 1:17 PM
- thl408
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I was just listening to Donte Whitner. He's a little concerned about the Niners D line being able to get consistent pressure on the QB. His reasoning is that he doesn't feel the D backs are good enough to play man which is what they can be forced to do if they have to start using the LBs to get pressure. The D line on paper looks great but he doesn't like the scheme they are using. He thinks it makes it too easy for the O line to block them.
Did he say anything specific as to why he doesn't like the wide9? It's designed to optimize pass rushing.
Sep 18, 2023 at 1:23 PM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I was just listening to Donte Whitner. He's a little concerned about the Niners D line being able to get consistent pressure on the QB. His reasoning is that he doesn't feel the D backs are good enough to play man which is what they can be forced to do if they have to start using the LBs to get pressure. The D line on paper looks great but he doesn't like the scheme they are using. He thinks it makes it too easy for the O line to block them.
Did he say anything specific as to why he doesn't like the wide9? It's designed to optimize pass rushing.
Maybe because it really depends on speed rushers on the outside, and we don't really have a true one capable of playing meaningless ̶s̶t̶a̶p̶s̶ snaps.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Sep 18, 2023 at 1:32 PM ]
Sep 18, 2023 at 1:30 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I was just listening to Donte Whitner. He's a little concerned about the Niners D line being able to get consistent pressure on the QB. His reasoning is that he doesn't feel the D backs are good enough to play man which is what they can be forced to do if they have to start using the LBs to get pressure. The D line on paper looks great but he doesn't like the scheme they are using. He thinks it makes it too easy for the O line to block them.
Did he say anything specific as to why he doesn't like the wide9? It's designed to optimize pass rushing.
"They are not getting any pressure. This defense is built on getting pressure with 4, playing a bunch of guys in coverage, reading the QB, breaking on the ball, and creating turnovers. And when you are not doing that, it forces you to have to allocate more guys to rushing the QB. And I dont know if the 49ers really have the cornerbacks to be able to match up with teams on a consistent basis playing man coverage and zone blitz. They are going to have to make some adjustments in terms of rushing the QB, and maybe throw some games in there. There were not many instances in the game where they had a defensive end go up the field, loop inside...the things that Demeco Ryans was doing, I dont think Steve Wilkes is doing when it comes to the defensive line."
Sep 18, 2023 at 2:01 PM
- thl408
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I was just listening to Donte Whitner. He's a little concerned about the Niners D line being able to get consistent pressure on the QB. His reasoning is that he doesn't feel the D backs are good enough to play man which is what they can be forced to do if they have to start using the LBs to get pressure. The D line on paper looks great but he doesn't like the scheme they are using. He thinks it makes it too easy for the O line to block them.
Did he say anything specific as to why he doesn't like the wide9? It's designed to optimize pass rushing.
"They are not getting any pressure. This defense is built on getting pressure with 4, playing a bunch of guys in coverage, reading the QB, breaking on the ball, and creating turnovers. And when you are not doing that, it forces you to have to allocate more guys to rushing the QB. And I dont know if the 49ers really have the cornerbacks to be able to match up with teams on a consistent basis playing man coverage and zone blitz. They are going to have to make some adjustments in terms of rushing the QB, and maybe throw some games in there. There were not many instances in the game where they had a defensive end go up the field, loop inside...the things that Demeco Ryans was doing, I dont think Steve Wilkes is doing when it comes to the defensive line."
When it comes to DL games, it's there for Wilks to use. That stuff remains since Kocurek is still here. It's up to Wilks to call it. I think too much is being made of the first half of the Rams game. It's true that Wilks could have reacted sooner to what was going on with Stafford completing so many passes. I'd give it a few games before re-thinking the overall scheme. It's not like Stafford is some middling QB - he and McVay are capable of putting up points. I can't tell exactly what was done in the second half (yet?) but it did get better.
Sep 18, 2023 at 2:20 PM
- SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I was just listening to Donte Whitner. He's a little concerned about the Niners D line being able to get consistent pressure on the QB. His reasoning is that he doesn't feel the D backs are good enough to play man which is what they can be forced to do if they have to start using the LBs to get pressure. The D line on paper looks great but he doesn't like the scheme they are using. He thinks it makes it too easy for the O line to block them.
Did he say anything specific as to why he doesn't like the wide9? It's designed to optimize pass rushing.
"They are not getting any pressure. This defense is built on getting pressure with 4, playing a bunch of guys in coverage, reading the QB, breaking on the ball, and creating turnovers. And when you are not doing that, it forces you to have to allocate more guys to rushing the QB. And I dont know if the 49ers really have the cornerbacks to be able to match up with teams on a consistent basis playing man coverage and zone blitz. They are going to have to make some adjustments in terms of rushing the QB, and maybe throw some games in there. There were not many instances in the game where they had a defensive end go up the field, loop inside...the things that Demeco Ryans was doing, I dont think Steve Wilkes is doing when it comes to the defensive line."
When it comes to DL games, it's there for Wilks to use. That stuff remains since Kocurek is still here. It's up to Wilks to call it. I think too much is being made of the first half of the Rams game. It's true that Wilks could have reacted sooner to what was going on with Stafford completing so many passes. I'd give it a few games before re-thinking the overall scheme. It's not like Stafford is some middling QB - he and McVay are capable of putting up points. I can't tell exactly what was done in the second half (yet?) but it did get better.
I agree with you, I am just relaying what he said. You can thank my mother for teaching me to type fast when I was a child LOL.
I think its way too early for Whitner to have this type of concern after 2 games. I agree with what he is saying, that IF this is something we see for say half the season, it is cause for concern. But right now, I think he is just looking for something to be negative about.
Sep 18, 2023 at 2:47 PM
- Dshearn
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Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Brooklyn9er:
Do you guys not watch the games. He's double teamed, chipped on plays he's not doubled. What do what from this guy. You want him to be Jesus. Watch the games. The other guys should be getting off.
There was quite a few times the rams decided Drake was the more dangerous pass rusher and doubled and chipped him instead. It was called out in the game thread multiple times.
Bosa is not doing Bosa things right now with any regularity. He had about as much impact as Solly Thomas for several snaps against the rams....that is a fact....
I think the proper take away is Bosa is a really good player, but he is not a dude who can skip the offseason with a new DC and just roll out and be a DPOY candidate.
Gonna take a few weeks to get him going. The good news is when he gets going, he'll be hell on wheels. You can't give attention to Drake and Bosa and Hargrave and Armstead all at once.
He already looked better later in the game than the start.....I think you are right...he just needs a few games to get back in the groove then we can judge the defense.
I was just shocked how often the rams decided to double Drake Jackson over him.....I never expected that to happen.
Sep 18, 2023 at 3:01 PM
- JTB1974
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I heard Bosa was the highest graded player with a 93.0 grade.
Sep 18, 2023 at 3:47 PM
- LifelongNiner
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Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Brooklyn9er:
Do you guys not watch the games. He's double teamed, chipped on plays he's not doubled. What do what from this guy. You want him to be Jesus. Watch the games. The other guys should be getting off.
There was quite a few times the rams decided Drake was the more dangerous pass rusher and doubled and chipped him instead. It was called out in the game thread multiple times.
Bosa is not doing Bosa things right now with any regularity. He had about as much impact as Solly Thomas for several snaps against the rams....that is a fact....
I think the proper take away is Bosa is a really good player, but he is not a dude who can skip the offseason with a new DC and just roll out and be a DPOY candidate.
Gonna take a few weeks to get him going. The good news is when he gets going, he'll be hell on wheels. You can't give attention to Drake and Bosa and Hargrave and Armstead all at once.
He already looked better later in the game than the start.....I think you are right...he just needs a few games to get back in the groove then we can judge the defense.
I was just shocked how often the rams decided to double Drake Jackson over him.....I never expected that to happen.
I hope the Rams double Drake next time we play them
Sep 18, 2023 at 11:32 PM
- SLCNiner
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Sure hope Nick was motivated by watching Watt tonight. Gotta sting a bit not only watching that performance, but listening to pundits call him the best.
Sep 19, 2023 at 2:33 AM
- DRCHOWDER
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After watching some more videos on him this game, I can see hes getting back into BOSA SHAPE.
example:
some of those moves he used....
example:
.@49ers @nbsmallerbear working himself into Playoff Condition while affecting the game in a variety of ways. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/aeghUul3e7
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) September 18, 2023
some of those moves he used....
Sep 19, 2023 at 4:01 AM
- SlipAndSlideBosa
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
After watching some more videos on him this game, I can see hes getting back into BOSA SHAPE.![]()
example:
.@49ers @nbsmallerbear working himself into Playoff Condition while affecting the game in a variety of ways. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/aeghUul3e7
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) September 18, 2023
some of those moves he used....
Yep the sacks will come if he keeps playing like that.