WR Jordan Matthews Is a TE. And now released, again. And a 49er, again. | Page 48

Aug 22, 2019 at 2:41 PM

#706

DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle said he had a hell of a camp, huh?

So he's a guaranteed cut, right?

he's so cut now

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Aug 22, 2019 at 2:42 PM

#707

DonnieDarko
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watch him play the entire 4th preseason game lol

Aug 22, 2019 at 2:46 PM

#708

littleken
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by elguapo:
I really hope this guy makes the team over Kendrick Bourne and Ritchie James. He is a red zone monster and he always has been. That is worth more than the other two receivers

Since when? He has a total of 6 TDs in the past 3 seasons.

I think 16 of his 22 TD's were in the redzone over the course of his career. I'm pretty sure that's what elguapo means.

Aren't most TD score within the redzone?

Aug 22, 2019 at 3:48 PM

#709

SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by littleken:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by elguapo:
I really hope this guy makes the team over Kendrick Bourne and Ritchie James. He is a red zone monster and he always has been. That is worth more than the other two receivers

Since when? He has a total of 6 TDs in the past 3 seasons.

I think 16 of his 22 TD's were in the redzone over the course of his career. I'm pretty sure that's what elguapo means.

Aren't most TD score within the redzone?

I am having difficulties finding the exact stat I am looking for. Trying to find out what percentage of touchdown passes are in the redzone versus out. The only thing I have found out which is close is that the average touchdown pass distance hasnt been further than 20 yards since 2005.

Saying someone is a "redzone monster" because he scores most of their touchdowns in the redzone, is a false conclusion IMO.

Aug 22, 2019 at 4:10 PM

#710

Kolohe
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by elguapo:
I really hope this guy makes the team over Kendrick Bourne and Ritchie James. He is a red zone monster and he always has been. That is worth more than the other two receivers

Since when? He has a total of 6 TDs in the past 3 seasons.

I think 16 of his 22 TD's were in the redzone over the course of his career. I'm pretty sure that's what elguapo means.

Saw that too.

That doesnt mean he is a "redzone monster" because he averages 3.2 redzone touchdowns a season. LOL

Dude is just awful. THL's breakdown of Jimmy's night confirmed that his terrible route running and sloppiness was the reason for the near pick 6.

Matthews needs to be cut. He provides the least upside out of any of our guys.

I mean you're complaining about one route in a Preseason game when Shanahan watches him every day in practice. I think since last week Thursday, Matthews has been targeted second most by Jimmy G.. Again, I don't get the hate for the guy on here its not like he dropped two easy passes against second or third stringers. If healthy he can't be any worse than what Garcon has shown since his time in SF.

Aug 22, 2019 at 4:41 PM

#711

9moon
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GRESTEST sign of a bubble player being cut is when you see them making plays in the 4th quarter !!!

Aug 22, 2019 at 5:07 PM

#712

zeppfan1
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I've watched both preseason games and haven't seen him do anything worth noting.

Aug 22, 2019 at 5:15 PM

#713

SteveWallacesHelmet
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Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by elguapo:
I really hope this guy makes the team over Kendrick Bourne and Ritchie James. He is a red zone monster and he always has been. That is worth more than the other two receivers

Since when? He has a total of 6 TDs in the past 3 seasons.

I think 16 of his 22 TD's were in the redzone over the course of his career. I'm pretty sure that's what elguapo means.

Saw that too.

That doesnt mean he is a "redzone monster" because he averages 3.2 redzone touchdowns a season. LOL

Dude is just awful. THL's breakdown of Jimmy's night confirmed that his terrible route running and sloppiness was the reason for the near pick 6.

Matthews needs to be cut. He provides the least upside out of any of our guys.

I mean you're complaining about one route in a Preseason game when Shanahan watches him every day in practice. I think since last week Thursday, Matthews has been targeted second most by Jimmy G.. Again, I don't get the hate for the guy on here its not like he dropped two easy passes against second or third stringers. If healthy he can't be any worse than what Garcon has shown since his time in SF.

No I am not. Feel free to look back in this thread. My dislike for Matthews and preference for basically any of the other WRs is well documented. He simply isnt very good.

Aug 22, 2019 at 5:29 PM

#714

Kolohe
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by elguapo:
I really hope this guy makes the team over Kendrick Bourne and Ritchie James. He is a red zone monster and he always has been. That is worth more than the other two receivers

Since when? He has a total of 6 TDs in the past 3 seasons.

I think 16 of his 22 TD's were in the redzone over the course of his career. I'm pretty sure that's what elguapo means.

Saw that too.

That doesnt mean he is a "redzone monster" because he averages 3.2 redzone touchdowns a season. LOL

Dude is just awful. THL's breakdown of Jimmy's night confirmed that his terrible route running and sloppiness was the reason for the near pick 6.

Matthews needs to be cut. He provides the least upside out of any of our guys.

I mean you're complaining about one route in a Preseason game when Shanahan watches him every day in practice. I think since last week Thursday, Matthews has been targeted second most by Jimmy G.. Again, I don't get the hate for the guy on here its not like he dropped two easy passes against second or third stringers. If healthy he can't be any worse than what Garcon has shown since his time in SF.

No I am not. Feel free to look back in this thread. My dislike for Matthews and preference for basically any of the other WRs is well documented. He simply isnt very good.

I'm referencing your post above. In all honesty we don't know what he looks like in Shanahan's offense, can't truly make a decision basing it off the 7 snaps of two preseason games. Shanahan has stated he had a helluva camp not a helluva two preseason games.

Aug 22, 2019 at 5:44 PM

#715

Scarlettlove
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
No I am not. Feel free to look back in this thread. My dislike for Matthews and preference for basically any of the other WRs is well documented. He simply isnt very good.

Perhaps it could be your judgement that isn't very good? Kyle seems to like him.

Aug 22, 2019 at 5:48 PM

#716

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At this pt who cares about the WR6

dude isn't gonna contribute much of anything and imo isn't any better than Bourne at this pt in his career.

James has looked better and is a solid return as well.

How many WRs dress on game day? 5? If that's the case dude might not even be active on game day because he doesn't do much of anything on STs.

Aug 22, 2019 at 5:56 PM

#717

Scarlettlove
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
At this pt who cares about the WR6 dude isn't gonna contribute much of anything and imo isn't any better than Bourne at this pt in his career.

James has looked better and is a solid return as well.

How many WRs dress on game day? 5? If that's the case dude might not even be active on game day because he doesn't do much of anything on STs.

We were one of the worst teams in the NFL last year inside the red zone with James and Bourne on the roster. Matthews isn t just a #6 WR who is going to be sitting on the bench. He is a big bodied guy who can run block and high point balls in the red zone and short yardage situation.. He will play early and often.

[ Edited by Scarlettlove on Aug 22, 2019 at 5:56 PM ]

Aug 22, 2019 at 6:33 PM

#718

NYniner85
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Originally posted by Scarlettlove:
We were one of the worst teams in the NFL last year inside the red zone with James and Bourne on the roster. Matthews isn t just a #6 WR who is going to be sitting on the bench. He is a big bodied guy who can run block and high point balls in the red zone and short yardage situation.. He will play early and often.

No he won't. He's got less TDs than Bourne in the past two yrs. dude is slow out of his breaks and can't separate. He offers nothing in STs and isn't good on the outside. At this PT I'll take Hurd as my big slot vs him.

People think we're getting Matthews from 2015 but he hasn't been that for a while...his injuries slowed him down is what it is.

[ Edited by NYniner85 on Aug 22, 2019 at 6:33 PM ]

Aug 22, 2019 at 6:38 PM

#719

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
At this pt who cares about the WR6 dude isn't gonna contribute much of anything and imo isn't any better than Bourne at this pt in his career.

James has looked better and is a solid return as well.

How many WRs dress on game day? 5? If that's the case dude might not even be active on game day because he doesn't do much of anything on STs.

I don't see Matthews making over guys like James and Bourne, plus like you said he's be inactive.

Aug 22, 2019 at 7:01 PM

#720

Scarlettlove
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
No he won't. He's got less TDs than Bourne in the past two yrs. dude is slow out of his breaks and can't separate. He offers nothing in STs and isn't good on the outside. At this PT I'll take Hurd as my big slot vs him.

People think we're getting Matthews from 2015 but he hasn't been that for a while...his injuries slowed him down is what it is.

He just turned 27 years old. He has had a few injuries that have slowed him down but that doesn't mean he can't get healthy and play at a high level again. I don't understand this logic at all. He didn't forget how to play football and he is in his physical prime.