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Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by OhioNiner:
Originally posted by Youngone:
Dude just out there lip syncing on IG like nothing is happening. Smh

I'm telling you it's like Terrell Owens all over again only far nuttier and arguably worse.

I don't have all the answers as no one does but if it's what it seems than Deebo is trending toward being a dirtbag person with all these antics. Not saying he is one at this point, just saying he's seemingly going down that road and seemingly doing dirtbag things.

Almost feel sorry for him because one can be a great player/athlete or one can be a great person. Or, one can be both. But he's going to be a NFL player regardless for a very short period of time. If he played as long as Brady that's absurdly rare and pretty much a non possibility because he relies on his athleticism more. Plus, his physical style guarantees that won't happen. But that's still both a minority of each and every year and a minority of his natural life. Who he is is a person is going to be more important than who he is as a player. And right now he's going to have a hard time getting many first downs as a person with the way he's acting.

But as it is, we don't need him as he is right now. Imo. And he's obviously a great player.

And I'm telling you, you're out of your mind. Deebo is partying because Deebo is NOT the orchestrator of all this. Deebo PAYS SOMEONE to orchestrate all this, to create leverage, to get him paid. He then lives his life while THE MAN HE PAID to pressure the 49ers to maximize his value does his job.

Comparing a guy trying to take care of his family with his best shot he will ever have to TO throwing tantrums and undermining the locker room is ludicrous. This is Deebo's agent doing his job: trying to get his client as much money as possible while he is still valuable.

And again, I care far more about people than I do the 49ers even. Everything we do, we'll all stand before God one day. And I'm obviously not saying Deebo is going to hell and I'm not the one in any place to send him there. And heck, we all make mistakes and we all fall short. But again, you can be a first class athlete or you can be a first class person, or try to be. Both in the way you act in life and in the way you act in business in "trying to care of your family and get paid." He's also setting an example or will be setting an example as a father of how to act, whether to do so with integrity or not.

And while it's okay to disagree, since people want to argue and take personal shots, I've said my piece and I'm out. Totally out.

Trying to maximize your pay day is not being a bad person. It's no worse than you trying to minimize your taxes owed or voting for people that promise to do so. That doesn't make you a bad person, and neither does Deebo trying to maximize his value.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by JR80Forever:
Jets #4
Jets #10
Jets #38
Jets 2023 1st

I'd start with that if I am Lynch.

That might be a little too rich for the Jets to do.

Guess they aren't desperate then

They're not that desperate.

Why would they be. You yourself said there's 4 WRs in this draft that can replicate what Deebo can do. So why trade for Deebo when they can just draft Williams?

What I'm saying is they can be starters on our team. No one can replicate what Deebo can do.

So you want to replace Deebo with a player who's objectively worst. This is a great plan.
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Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Just publicize throwing a 4 year $25M per, with $75M guaranteed in his face today.
Make it PR.
Answer the question Deebo.
If he says no, TODAY, ship him off.
Dude was literally the Face of The Franchise in January.

That's what I'm saying, he wants nothing to do with us.
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by JR80Forever:
Jets #4
Jets #10
Jets #38
Jets 2023 1st

I'd start with that if I am Lynch.

That might be a little too rich for the Jets to do.

Guess they aren't desperate then

They're not that desperate.

Why would they be. You yourself said there's 4 WRs in this draft that can replicate what Deebo can do. So why trade for Deebo when they can just draft Williams?

What I'm saying is they can be starters on our team. No one can replicate what Deebo can do.

So you want to replace Deebo with a player who's objectively worst. This is a great plan.

Deebo is in a class by himself - can't replicate what he does with any receiver we bring in.
We have less than $1M in cap available right now. We couldn't get any amount of signing bonus for him, even if it was spread over a 4 or 5 year deal, even if we want to. Whether we like it or not, a Deebo deal right now needs Jimmy off the roster or we need to rework Williams/Ward's deals, players well into their 30's now.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by JR80Forever:
Jets #4
Jets #10
Jets #38
Jets 2023 1st

I'd start with that if I am Lynch.

That might be a little too rich for the Jets to do.

Guess they aren't desperate then

They're not that desperate.

Why would they be. You yourself said there's 4 WRs in this draft that can replicate what Deebo can do. So why trade for Deebo when they can just draft Williams?

What I'm saying is they can be starters on our team. No one can replicate what Deebo can do.

So you want to replace Deebo with a player who's objectively worst. This is a great plan.

Deebo is in a class by himself - can't replicate what he does with any receiver we bring in.

Then do not trade him. The NFL has so many ways to keep players around. Don't give a damn if it hurts his feelings it's a f**king business and he ain't going anywhere.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Just publicize throwing a 4 year $25M per, with $75M guaranteed in his face today.
Make it PR.
Answer the question Deebo.
If he says no, TODAY, ship him off.
Dude was literally the Face of The Franchise in January.

That's what I'm saying, he wants nothing to do with us.

That was a hypothetical.
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Just publicize throwing a 4 year $25M per, with $75M guaranteed in his face today.
Make it PR.
Answer the question Deebo.
If he says no, TODAY, ship him off.
Dude was literally the Face of The Franchise in January.

That's what I'm saying, he wants nothing to do with us.

That was a hypothetical.

Writing is on the wall - don't be ignorant.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Just publicize throwing a 4 year $25M per, with $75M guaranteed in his face today.
Make it PR.
Answer the question Deebo.
If he says no, TODAY, ship him off.
Dude was literally the Face of The Franchise in January.

That's what I'm saying, he wants nothing to do with us.

That was a hypothetical.

Writing is on the wall - don't be ignorant.

The writing is not on the wall. Don't be ignorant. Asking for a trade can and is used for leverage in the NFL during contract negotiations. It doesn't mean that the relationship is completely shattered and not fixable. It also does not mean that he doesn't want to be a 49er any longer. It could just be him being impatient because he wants his money now. Which we cannnot financially oblige atm.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Apr 26, 2022 at 10:22 AM ]
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by JR80Forever:
Jets #4
Jets #10
Jets #38
Jets 2023 1st

I'd start with that if I am Lynch.

That might be a little too rich for the Jets to do.

Guess they aren't desperate then

They're not that desperate.

Why would they be. You yourself said there's 4 WRs in this draft that can replicate what Deebo can do. So why trade for Deebo when they can just draft Williams?

What I'm saying is they can be starters on our team. No one can replicate what Deebo can do.

So you want to replace Deebo with a player who's objectively worst. This is a great plan.

Deebo is in a class by himself - can't replicate what he does with any receiver we bring in.

Then do not trade him. The NFL has so many ways to keep players around. Don't give a damn if it hurts his feelings it's a f**king business and he ain't going anywhere.

Of course this is the answer. Too many people get excited over what we may get in return for Deebo, but the truth is nothing would make up for his loss. So just continue to try getting a long term deal done, but in the meantime he is under contract and can later be tagged.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Just publicize throwing a 4 year $25M per, with $75M guaranteed in his face today.
Make it PR.
Answer the question Deebo.
If he says no, TODAY, ship him off.
Dude was literally the Face of The Franchise in January.

That's what I'm saying, he wants nothing to do with us.

That was a hypothetical.

Writing is on the wall - don't be ignorant.

Stop being a mayo
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
We have less than $1M in cap available right now. We couldn't get any amount of signing bonus for him, even if it was spread over a 4 or 5 year deal, even if we want to. Whether we like it or not, a Deebo deal right now needs Jimmy off the roster or we need to rework Williams/Ward's deals, players well into their 30's now.

but but but, we were told keeping jimmy does not keep us from extending deebo or bosa or signing whoever we want to
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Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 5Jan2003:
Just publicize throwing a 4 year $25M per, with $75M guaranteed in his face today.
Make it PR.
Answer the question Deebo.
If he says no, TODAY, ship him off.
Dude was literally the Face of The Franchise in January.

That's what I'm saying, he wants nothing to do with us.

That was a hypothetical.

Writing is on the wall - don't be ignorant.

Stop being a mayo

mayo is a really good poster. a really good fan and is far from ignorant.. i do not blame him for being concerned.. i am to but am thinking by the time the dust settles thursday he will still be here and that is a good sign
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
We have less than $1M in cap available right now. We couldn't get any amount of signing bonus for him, even if it was spread over a 4 or 5 year deal, even if we want to. Whether we like it or not, a Deebo deal right now needs Jimmy off the roster or we need to rework Williams/Ward's deals, players well into their 30's now.

but but but, we were told keeping jimmy does not keep us from extending deebo or bosa or signing whoever we want to
Kittle and Warner didn't have anything added to their final year cap wise with their extensions
[ Edited by Bloodless on Apr 26, 2022 at 10:46 AM ]
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