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  • cciowa
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Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
the reason is his salary, no way would I eat $8.5M just to appease fans, it's a dumb move IMO, try and trade him at deadline, get something for him then. People need to quit acting like it's doom and gloom. And Marsh could surprise, sure he's been cut by 2 teams, but look at Day, cut by the Jags, cause he probably wasn't playing well, now look at him. trust the process, give them time.

Completely agree - trust the process & give it time to play out rather than jump to your own conclusions.
so how long do we trust the process. lets say after five games of no sacks little pressure, a qb carving us up cuz they have all the time in the world to throw the ball vs a young secondary. do we still set there with a glazed smile saying trust the process?
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Have we filled the hole at RB yet, or are they just gonna go with Morris, Brieda, and Mostert? Isn't there an open roster spot?

I wonder what Tevin Coleman would cost in a trade? ATL isn't gonna resign him and they just drafted Ito Smith
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
the reason is his salary, no way would I eat $8.5M just to appease fans, it's a dumb move IMO, try and trade him at deadline, get something for him then. People need to quit acting like it's doom and gloom. And Marsh could surprise, sure he's been cut by 2 teams, but look at Day, cut by the Jags, cause he probably wasn't playing well, now look at him. trust the process, give them time.

Completely agree - trust the process & give it time to play out rather than jump to your own conclusions.
so how long do we trust the process. lets say after five games of no sacks little pressure, a qb carving us up cuz they have all the time in the world to throw the ball vs a young secondary. do we still set there with a glazed smile saying trust the process?

Of course. We heard the same thing during the Tomsula year. Trust the process, they know more than us, we are not qualified to second guess them.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
The only healthy lineman right now are Coleman, Richburg, Staley, McGlinchey, Tomlinson, Person, and Garnett, while Gilliam and Magnuson aren't, so getting an extra OL is a good choice, can't fix everything with two moves, and exum is a good backup SS IMO.

I'm hoping they are still looking for a running back and edge rusher with all the cuts during the weekend. Not very hopeful though - they haven't made any strong moves to sign another edge rusher other than putting Pita on the practice squad.

Honestly, with the cuts, these are guys who likely won't be on NFL rosters, there really is not many options out there, maybe JAX and DEN want too much for Fowler and Ray. We don't know what's going out inside the facility, but to automatically call the season a failure cause they didn't get a ER, or they kept Ward is ridiculous.

And to cc, it's been 2 years, not even that, did you really expect them to fix the entire team in 2 yrs? c'mon, no one has ever done that, these flashy signing teams make hardly ever work out in year 1 or ever.
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
the reason is his salary, no way would I eat $8.5M just to appease fans, it's a dumb move IMO, try and trade him at deadline, get something for him then. People need to quit acting like it's doom and gloom. And Marsh could surprise, sure he's been cut by 2 teams, but look at Day, cut by the Jags, cause he probably wasn't playing well, now look at him. trust the process, give them time.

Completely agree - trust the process & give it time to play out rather than jump to your own conclusions.
so how long do we trust the process. lets say after five games of no sacks little pressure, a qb carving us up cuz they have all the time in the world to throw the ball vs a young secondary. do we still set there with a glazed smile saying trust the process?

Of course. We heard the same thing during the Tomsula year. Trust the process, they know more than us, we are not qualified to second guess them.

We can try and second guess them, but we're not NFL coaches or GMs, they are, they know how the NFL works and runs, we don't, a lot goes on behind the scenes, and for people to jump to conclusions is ridiculous.
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
the reason is his salary, no way would I eat $8.5M just to appease fans, it's a dumb move IMO, try and trade him at deadline, get something for him then. People need to quit acting like it's doom and gloom. And Marsh could surprise, sure he's been cut by 2 teams, but look at Day, cut by the Jags, cause he probably wasn't playing well, now look at him. trust the process, give them time.

Completely agree - trust the process & give it time to play out rather than jump to your own conclusions.
so how long do we trust the process. lets say after five games of no sacks little pressure, a qb carving us up cuz they have all the time in the world to throw the ball vs a young secondary. do we still set there with a glazed smile saying trust the process?

Until it's done.
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Who cares

I figured after Cooper we'd go OL (Kyle likes carrying 10) and at least Exum is a real SS who knows the system.

I guess that's it...no RB or ER. Done. 53 is set.
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Honestly, with the cuts, these are guys who likely won't be on NFL rosters, there really is not many options out there, maybe JAX and DEN want too much for Fowler and Ray. We don't know what's going out inside the facility, but to automatically call the season a failure cause they didn't get a ER, or they kept Ward is ridiculous.

And to cc, it's been 2 years, not even that, did you really expect them to fix the entire team in 2 yrs? c'mon, no one has ever done that, these flashy signing teams make hardly ever work out in year 1 or ever.
i damn well expected them to address the pass rush but now its weaker than ever. and i sure as hell expected them to at least try out or find a extra running back
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
We can try and second guess them, but we're not NFL coaches or GMs, they are, they know how the NFL works and runs, we don't, a lot goes on behind the scenes, and for people to jump to conclusions is ridiculous.

trust the process . how does the ward extension figure into it. why not cut him or trade him. pay his salary and admit you were wrong about him. aa is another case but maybe he can do something
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
the reason is his salary, no way would I eat $8.5M just to appease fans, it's a dumb move IMO, try and trade him at deadline, get something for him then. People need to quit acting like it's doom and gloom. And Marsh could surprise, sure he's been cut by 2 teams, but look at Day, cut by the Jags, cause he probably wasn't playing well, now look at him. trust the process, give them time.

if you traded him. you would have to eat part of his pay. of course you can thank lynch for that
Name your 7 inactives for the Minnesota game:

Offensive Personnel: --- 2
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo; C.J. BeatHard
RB: Alfred Morris; Matt Breida & Raheem Mostert
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Garett Celek & Cole Wick
XWR: Marquise Goodwin; Dante Pettis
SWR: Trent Tylor; Richie James
ZWR: Pierre Garcon; Kendrick Bourne
LT: Joe Staley; Shon Coleman
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Matt Tobin
C: Weston Richburg; Erik Magnuson
RG: Mike Person; Joshua Garnett
RT: Mike McGlinchey; Garry Gilliam

Defensive Personnel: --- 25
LDE: Arik Armstead; Jullian Taylor & Ronald Blair
NT: Earl Mitchell; D.J. Jones
RDT: DeForest Buckner; Sheldon Day
LEO: Solomon Thomas
ER: Cassius Marsh
SAM: Mark Nzeocha; Dekoda Watson
MIKE: Fred Warner; Brock Coyle
WILL: Malcolm Smith; Elijah Lee
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; Tarvarious Moore
SCB: K'Waun Williams
LCB: Richard Sherman; Jimmie Ward & Greg Mabin
FS: Adrian Colbert; D.J. Reed
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Antone Exum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion

KOR: Dante Pettis & D.J. Reed
PR: Dante Pettis; Trent Taylor & D.J. Reed
GR: Raheem Mostert & Tarvarious Moore

2018 Practice Squad: --- 10
QB - Nick Mullens
OL - Zach Golditch
WR - Steven Dunbar Jr.
TE - Ross Dwelley
CB - Emmanuel Moseley
DB - Tyvis Powell
DL - Niles Scott
LB - Pita Taumoepenu
OL - Najee Toran
RB - Jeff Wilson Jr.

2018 Injured Reserve / PUP / NFI / Suspension Total:
2018 (6) --- 2017 (26) --- 2016 (22) --- 2015 (17) --- 2014 (21)
Jerick McKinnon
Malcolm Johnson
Aaron Burbridge
J.P. Flynn
Kentavius Street
Marcell Harris
Victor Bolden Jr. - Suspended
Reuben Foster - Suspended
[ Edited by NCommand on Sep 4, 2018 at 7:49 PM ]
Well, 20 months later and we have essentially turned over the roster, save Buckner, AA, and the K,, PK, and LS. There just isn't much more to change over. Sure, Ward, but...no need to say much more. AB was flat out spot on...we PAID the guy $8.5 mil. It would be stupid to flush that. Anything he contributes is a positive, even if he plays every 3rd game. Still it is something. And we can hope that he stays healthy and we get a yrs worth of service out of him. I don't care for him any more than the next guy, but AB's comments close the issue for discussion. NOw let's see what we can salvage from him.

NC, on another note, we both were intrigued by Williams (Darren) last yr, but he went backwards on us. Kind of surprising he was worse in his second yr than his first. Something strange must have happened. Whatever, he is adios, along with the rest of the OL tryouts, and why we kept Giliam(oh yeah, he is paid for the yr)...ouch. .. he turned out to be exactly what i thot when he was brot in...a bust. But we had to have somebody....guess an OL early before pick 45-50 or so could have helped out a bunch...but that is in the retrospectoscope.

Of course...there was Sitton to be had in FA, along with a very expensive OG. Oh well....let's play some football. No sniveling .
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Sep 3, 2018 at 1:05 PM ]
FO knew some of these guys weren't going to work out and cut risks with one year contracts. Cooper, JA. and there are guys working off the last year of their contract.

I do like that they are moving on from some guys when it doesn't look they will ever pan out. A Lynch is hurt again, trying to latch on with Fangio. Dial...whatever happened to him? AA and Ward are up next.
Kyle working hard to update that game plan by tomorrow.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Name your 7 inactives for the Minnesota game:

Offensive Personnel: --- 24
QB: Jimmy Garoppolo; C.J. BeatHard
RB: Alfred Morris; Matt Breida & Raheem Mostert
FB: Kyle Juszczyk
TE: George Kittle; Garett Celek & Cole Wick
XWR: Marquise Goodwin; Dante Pettis
SWR: Trent Tylor; Richie James
ZWR: Pierre Garcon; Kendrick Bourne
LT: Joe Staley; Shon Coleman
LG: Laken Tomlinson; Matt Tobin
C: Weston Richburg
RG: Mike Person; Joshua Garnett
RT: Mike McGlinchey; Garry Gilliam

Defensive Personnel: --- 26
LDE: Arik Armstead; Jullian Taylor & Ronald Blair
NT: Earl Mitchell; D.J. Jones
RDT: DeForest Buckner; Sheldon Day
LEO: Solomon Thomas
ER: Cassius Marsh
SAM: Mark Nzeocha; Dekoda Watson
MIKE: Fred Warner; Brock Coyle
WILL: Reuben Foster; Malcolm Smith & Elijah Lee
RCB: Ahkello Witherspoon; Tarvarious Moore
SCB: K'Waun Williams
LCB: Richard Sherman; Jimmie Ward & Greg Mabin
FS: Adrian Colbert; D.J. Reed
SS: Jaquiski Tartt; Antone Exum

Special Teams: --- 3
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Robbie Gould
P: Bradley Pinion

KOR: Dante Pettis & D.J. Reed
PR: Dante Pettis; Trent Taylor & D.J. Reed
GR: Raheem Mostert & Tarvarious Moore

2018 Practice Squad: --- 10
QB - Nick Mullens
OL - Zach Golditch
WR - Steven Dunbar Jr.
TE - Ross Dwelley
CB - Emmanuel Moseley
DB - Tyvis Powell
DL - Niles Scott
LB - Pita Taumoepenu
OL - Najee Toran
RB - Jeff Wilson Jr.

2018 Injured Reserve / PUP / NFI / Suspension Total:
2018 (7) --- 2017 (26) --- 2016 (22) --- 2015 (17) --- 2014 (21)
Jerick McKinnon
Malcolm Johnson
Aaron Burbridge
J.P. Flynn
Erik Magnuson
Kentavius Street
Marcell Harris
Victor Bolden Jr. - Suspended
Reuben Foster - Suspended

IMO, Gilliam, Tobin, Taylor, Lee, Mabin, James, and Wick I go with Blair over Taylor being active as Blair was on all preseason while Taylor only really flashed week 1.
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