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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:Do you honestly expect us to believe that if the 2021 49ers do something similar to the Rams, Brunksill plays like Austin Blythe, McKivitz plays like Edwards and the 9ers are 8-4 1 year from now that you will be saying it's a solid OL. Cuz you sure didn't last year.
THAT is the hypocrisy.
Rams OL isn't great. But they can win the SB with it. Both things can be true at the same time. It's the system that will need to carry the primary load. Sound familiar?
Originally posted by NYniner85:There's the deflection lol.
So yes play-calling is making that OL perform better than last yr???
I mean does Kyle have Goff? Has Kyle had his two top WRs like Woods/Kupp that allows them to use max-protect more than any team in football?
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
It's not that I don't have standards for OL play. I do. But i also recognize the reality of the OL play in this league. It's the grading on a curve concept. Why do you think PFF had the 9ers OL in the top 10?
To say the BIlls have a good OL when they can't consistent run block and Allen has to scramble all over the place shows how YOU GUYS want to skew what you think is good to fit a narrative.
Besides the Packers and Colts there aren't any good OL's right now. Everyone is just trying to manage to hide their flaws. Why terms like Championship OL is worthless.
If the 9ers OL right now was blocking like the Packers OL i still think we are 5-7. If we had Aaron Rodgers we are 8-4.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:Do you honestly expect us to believe that if the 2021 49ers do something similar to the Rams, Brunksill plays like Austin Blythe, McKivitz plays like Edwards and the 9ers are 8-4 1 year from now that you will be saying it's a solid OL. Cuz you sure didn't last year.
THAT is the hypocrisy.
Rams OL isn't great. But they can win the SB with it. Both things can be true at the same time. It's the system that will need to carry the primary load. Sound familiar?
Originally posted by NCommand:
NC says no, the Rams are not a Championship OL this year already.
Why would I think our crappy OL would suddenly be THIS year (we ran it back too like they did) or next year?
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:Originally posted by NCommand:Haha. Yeah, I wasn't having a Goff v. Garoppolo v. Mullens conversation here.
I agree with you in principle on your standards for QB play. I'm saying you three don't have the same standards for OL. Obviously.
It's not like we both wouldn't want both massively improved.
It's not that I don't have standards for OL play. I do. But i also recognize the reality of the OL play in this league. It's the grading on a curve concept. Why do you think PFF had the 9ers OL in the top 10?
To say the BIlls have a good OL when they can't consistent run block and Allen has to scramble all over the place shows how YOU GUYS want to skew what you think is good to fit a narrative.
Besides the Packers and Colts there aren't any good OL's right now. Everyone is just trying to manage to hide their flaws. Why terms like Championship OL is worthless.
If the 9ers OL right now was blocking like the Packers OL i still think we are 5-7. If we had Aaron Rodgers we are 8-4.
.Originally posted by NCommand:...if they were meeting standards and the staff saw growth, sure. Like they did with Brunskill but that hasn't panned out no matter where he's at in a starting position.
Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. We've destroyed Rodgers because of their OL last year which is as bad as ours is this year.
And no, you do not have higher standards for OL. Hell, you don't even watch them. QB only.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:Originally posted by NCommand:NC says no, the Rams are not a Championship OL this year already.
Why would I think our crappy OL would suddenly be THIS year (we ran it back too like they did) or next year?
So who are the championship OL's?
Indy and Green Bay?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
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Originally posted by NCommand:Wait, you're saying in the exact same offense, Goff is > Garoppolo? I'll give you Mullens but you're massively overestimating a QB in Goff making up for THAT big of a difference. Their OL is just better this year. It's that simple. Maybe next year ours will be better.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:Originally posted by NCommand:LOL. We've destroyed Rodgers because of their OL last year which is as bad as ours is this year.
And no, you do not have higher standards for OL. Hell, you don't even watch them. QB only.
Actually I Do. There aren't good OLs in this league. I mentioned the 2 I think are good. That's it.
What you just said about the Packers just told me all i need to know about how much you are watching outside the 9ers.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:Originally posted by NYniner85:.
Saints need to move on from Ruiz. No growth in 10 starts? CUT HIM.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Don't forget the OL's who aren't super talented but are allowed to hold all through the playoffs so it's like a top OL..Chiefs. Saints 8-0 without Brees. Steelers have always had nice OL play with Farburger back there. Vegas had a good one too. That's about it. Maybe TN too esp. in run blocking.
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by NCommand:Wait, you're saying in the exact same offense, Goff is > Garoppolo? I'll give you Mullens but you're massively overestimating a QB in Goff making up for THAT big of a difference. Their OL is just better this year. It's that simple. Maybe next year ours will be better.
Deflecting again lol.
Where did I bring up Jimmy G?